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Topic: Why would anyone go digital on the Wii U? And have you?

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Treverend

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I was looking at games for the Wii U on Amazon, I believe Batman and Need for Speed are both like $16 bucks or around there. They are extremely cheap compared to the eShop versions of the games that are still around full retail price. This is my biggest problem with consoles going all digital. They don't seem to have competitive pricing like Steam does. Where are the amazing sales? Where are the price cuts that match the retail price cuts? I just don't see the point. Between making the consumer foot full retail cost on aging games and buying a HDD for $100+ I don't think they are doing a very good job at making the digital transition. Digital games shouldn't cost as much to begin with. They don't need to print everything and pay for production, they don't need to ship allover the world, they don't need warehouses to store them, they remove the middle man and make the full profit.

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Kyloctopus

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Nintendo has been doing alot of promtions with digital use, from having it exclusive for a few weeks, to having different promotions on Club Nintendo.
I would only recommend to go digital on new and anticipated games, or games that do go on the occasional sale. Otherwise, get the cheapest copy you can find.

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skywake

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It depends on the title. For something like Animal Crossing, Wii Fit or even Mario Kart where you expect to play it regularly and while playing other titles it makes sense. Especially with those sort of "evergreen" titles you don't tend to see price drops anyway because people don't flood the used market five seconds after launch. And the HDD cost, storage is cheap, this isn't a problem.

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CanisWolfred

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Steam is an exception, not the rule. Not even Microsoft and Sony can keep up with the amount of rediculous sales they offer on Valve's service. That said, until Nintendo gets an account system, I won't be buying much from their store even if they do suddenly start selling games at greatly reduced prices.

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For some people it just might be easier to get the game digitally then physical. They might not have a store near them or an easy way to get to the store. Some people just prefer digital over physical.

But yeah I am with CanisWolfred until Nintendo has an account system the only thing I will by from them digitally is VC games.

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SCAR392

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Believe it or not, physical copies of games are actually the reason why digital isn't as good as it could be.

They can't blatantly just sell digital for less, because of discs. Digital is technically cheaper, but they have to show that it is the same product that you would be buying as a disc.

The reason why I go digital 95% of the time, is because the game will always be available without the disc(convenience), I don't have to go to the store(convenience), Deluxe Digital Promo(reward, albeit temporary), the games can potentially run better in an all digital format(benefit), and I don't have to carry a bag full of discs or cases if I want to bring my system somewhere(convenience).

I think a few of the launch titles like Batman and AC III ran better off of an HDD. Plus, if you buy games when they first release, it's gonna be the same price here in the U.S., so it's that much more tempting to go digital.

The only games I have on disc are CoD Black Ops II and Ghosts, along with Nintendo Land, because it included.

There are some discounts... I say it would be best to wait a little while longer for there to be better deals. I could see Tekken Tag 2, AC III, Batman, etc. becoming like $15-20 on the eShop once newer software comes out, and that will be the only way to sell anymore copies of the game.
Just look at Xbox Live Marketplace. Gears of War, 2, 3, Mass Effect, etc. popular games are all $20 or less, now.

EDIT: I also want to mention that internet isn't available everywhere, so discs are still a good idea. It just makes sense to me to buy digital if I can.

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steamhare

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It's true that the console manufacturers don't feature competitive pricing for their digital offerings, and that's horrible. However, they do need discs in store because they double as advertising, and can't risk ostracizing the brick and mortar option by undercutting prices.

However, digital sales are great for older games for which it's hard to find a copy, or games that had a limited release, or games for which publishers don't match demand with store offerings.

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DIGITAL 4 LYFE BABY!

Why would you pay for inferior physical discs that load slow, constantly glitch, produce low framerates and make me get up out of my perfectly worn a$$ groove to load another disc ;)

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I don't buy digital...not because of accounts or competitive pricing (with online stores I don't use tbh), I don't because wasting that memory when you're already gonna get some download-only games is a stupid idea.

I'm fine with the pricing. I mean, it's not something I'd actively defend as how things should be whatever but I like how Nintendo has actual ideals of some sort with pricing instead of being fake pandering business people. And it's genuinely really bad for the whole industry to make the iOS race to the bottom prices a good thing so anything that counteracts that tends to be ok with me.

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sevex

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I'm going totally digital on my 3DS, since it's real convenient to take all my purchases with me when I go anywhere, but my Wii U stays home, and it's only the 8GB model, so I'll likely be buying discs for that thing.

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Unca_Lz

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Retail pricing is rarely consistent unless the publisher itself lowers the price. Also, why would they "compete" with the retailers selling their own games?

Steam is also competing with many other PC game distributors, hence the lower prices and generous sales whereas XBL, PSN and eShop are essentially monopolies (and no, they don't compete with each other directly)

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yeah Nintendo can't afford to make Gamestop angry right now meethinks.

I think people forget that PC pricing on Steam works partially because PC retail sales are faaaaaar more irrelevant.

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Treverend

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@DarkwingLz Well why wouldn't they compete? It all factors in to where the consumer will go. They can't have an over priced monopoly on a service and expect people to be okay with it when you can get the same game in physical format for far less or get the definitive version of the multiplats on PC for dirt cheap.

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Another factor is that Nintendo Points are not necessarily a flat rate. Unless I'm desperately covering a few spare points with my credit card, I don't ever pay full price for points cards. But I suppose I'm lucky to have a friend gets who deals on Visa gift cards... So I combine that with my Target employee discount and end up getting at least 25% off. Or just 15% with only my discount...

Maybe not possible for many people, but there are many creative ways to save on points cards if you're opportunistic. Granted, I'll concede that I've been in the boonies where those same cards are marked up as much as $5-10. Then again, I've also seen the Wii Points cards clearanced half off near the Res'... So it's really about knowing the right people or being in the right place, I guess.

Anyway, I still haven't gone digital yet for various reasons, but despite the higher digital price tags, there are still numerous, though unconventional means to save.

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Treverend wrote:

@DarkwingLz Well why wouldn't they compete? It all factors in to where the consumer will go. They can't have an over priced monopoly on a service and expect people to be okay with it when you can get the same game in physical format for far less or get the definitive version of the multiplats on PC for dirt cheap.

Nothing's stopping you from getting the physical or PC version. If you want the Wii U version, you'll either get the disc or the digital version, which might dependon the game.

If I want to buy Batman or AC on Wii U, it will probably be digital. I'd rather wait for a price drop than buy the disc version, though.

No one's forcing you to buy digital.

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I don't expect rock bottom Steam prices, but I think there should be some sort of a fair discount to make up for the fact that your game is going to be tied to your hardware, to servers, you can't sell it, trade it, loan it, or anything like that, and at the end of the day, you don't even own your copy of the game.

At least digital games for portables, I could see the convenience of having it all your favorites on the go with you, but with a home console, you're really paying a good premium just for a little convenience of not having to switch discs. I'm not point fingers at Nintendo, though, I think MS and Sony are just as guilty.

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8BitSamurai wrote:

at the end of the day, you don't even own your copy of the game

What? If I packed up and went to mars, my games would still be playable off the HDD.

I'm pretty sure the user agreement is that if you do something stupid with your software(like piracy, cheating, etc.), only then are they allowed to deny access to something you've payed for.

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@SCAR392 I'm not arguing that they are, and I'm certainly not saying Nintendo or any of the other publishers don't have a right to set their prices. I'm just saying that they are really upmarked compared to other versions. I'm saying it's dumb on their part as going more digital would actually save them money too. And I'm also afraid of the trend because one day they will be forcing me to go digital and they will have a monopoly on prices. Maybe not this gen, but it's certainly coming someday.

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Treverend wrote:

And I'm also afraid of the trend because one day they will be forcing me to go digital and they will have a monopoly on prices. Maybe not this gen, but it's certainly coming someday.

Unless internet connections skyrocket in development, I really doubt this with 50GB launch PS4 / Xone games.

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Again, why would they compete with their own distributors? How is this "competition"? They still make money from sales either way. Also, you missed my point where retailer sales are not consistent.

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