Topic: why we souldn't be worried about lack of third party

I saw the video that you linked, the guy who was talking knows his stuff that's why i subscribed to his channel after watching the video.If only people in the gaming community were like him calm and has some sense sad that's not how it is though.

I liked that video, I liked how he didn't get over dramatic like too many YouTubers do. I am going to subscribe to him. Thank you OP for posting that video, but your post was too long, didn't read

Yay.
Another stupid thread about this stupid topic.
Yay.

The video was interesting, but I wished he would have put the numbers on the screen while he is speaking to appreciate the comparisons even more and make it easier to follow.

That first post is a mess.

He's well spoken, but his numbers are garbage and only take a certain slant to make it look like there's a demand, yet there really isn't much. Just because more of the install base has bought splinter cell or some others of ubisofts titles, doesn't mean squat. The end number, the total sales matters, and 70k isn't much for Splinter Cell, and AC3 did 262K copies. He's taking it all in direction of the install base, but completely ignoring this pile of sales greatly so was all done with the launch of the system when those who wanted the WiiU heavily was looking to get anything great off the shelf at the time. How about we look at the install base that bought games and how many total games were sold a year later on those games, or sequels like AC4. The only Ubisoft game other than launch ZombiU that did truly excellent was Rayman which isn't a mature title, and it outsold the other systems.

Install base is playing with numbers to look good, the base doesn't matter. Total units sold does and if you can't clear X amount of games sold at the starter MSRP, it's a failure. That's the WiiU problem, lack of systems sold, lack of those who want T and M games, and even then those who would buy it on WiiU versus elsewhere, especially at $60.

English! Do you speak it? I can't contribute to this topic (even if i can't comprehend most of it) anymore than I've already have for today. But less games is never good.

Give me strength with all these threads.

One thing I totally agree with Strictly Nintendo is about the case of Zombi U. That game was not really a AAA title with insane costs of production. 700,000 copies sold are bond to make some profit on it. And it represents about 10% of the console userbase, so yes ZombiU was quite successful on Wii U.
Don't know about the others, though.

The only source I've seen on that is VGChartz, and Ubisoft and the gaming media's comments seem ton contradict that.

Video games are important. Don't forget.

ZombiU sold well, considering Nintendo gamers supposedly don't like mature games, and it sold that well from point 0. The problem was that ZombiU used to be that Killer Freaks from Outspace game that got switched to ZombiU, halfway into development.

ZombiU basically consisted of 2 full game projects that eventually became one. All the flip-flopping "killed" their budget, then it was still rushed and had mixed reviews. Even if ZombiU would have sold twice as much as it did, it probably still wouldn't have made them any money. That's how dumb the whole situation was. Never the less, I bought it on launch and liked it enough.

One thing vgchartz grossly fails at is data collection in the US because it's entirely based off the NPD. While in Japan they gladly shell out the information weekly to media create, the US sellers don't do this. Also supposedly Walmart, Target and Toys R Us refuse to share sales data with the NPD which means sales data on games they use is just flat wrong. So while he can say they sold X, they could have sold quite a bit more or not, it's a mystery. You sadly have to take the word of the game maker and if they said it sold bad, it did.

Because it's better to focus on what you have instead of worrying about-

Nope, just another "NXTGEN SUX0r$!!! THIRD PARTIES R TURD POTTIES!!!" thread...

Third parties realize that gamers are stupid.
They prefer slight better graphics with the same experiences on the other consoles than new experiences on the Wii U.
The gamers buy more stuff on those consoles than they buy the amazing experiences like Zombi U. Arkham City:AE, ME3:SE, Deux Ex, all don't sell as well as they should, taken how awesome they are on the Wii U.
Nintendo is the exception to this stupidity so it sells its games that it's making on Wii U.
The third parties fail to do what Nintendo does because they have less of the vision or ingenuity to compete on that platform.
So they look again at what most of the stupid gamers want and do that instead. Makes sense.
Whole story really.

Number crunching and percentages don't matter when making this kind of point. The bottom line is this: 3rd parties need only one console to exist, so they can make enough sales to remain profitable.

they acheived this with x86, but they couldn't do it with nintendo. Thus EA backed out, Ubisoft backed out, Activision backed out, etc.

Maybe it was naivete on the part of Iwata and Reggie promising "unprecedented 3rd party support". Perhaps the economics changed on them suddenly in 2012 and 3rd parties couldn't afford to support Nintendo anymore. Maybe it was a clash of heads between Western and Eastern execs; of innovation vs complacency. Nobody will ever know the details.

The only thing we do know is that execs--nintendo's and the third parties--are making up all kinds of lies to justify their controversial decisions. As well, production has stopped on 3rd party software until the economy of gaming is favourable enough to join forces despite these executive differences.

Until then, everyone will just have to lie to oneself, or take sides on the matter until the industry dies out (as it's currently happening in Japan) and a new industry creates itself from the ashes. I, for one, will happily play on my Nintendo hardware until that new gaming industry emerges.

Exactly. Sure, the % of the install base that buys the game is the same, but the problem is, the Wii U has a smaller install base. Companies don't care about install base percentages, they care about over all sales.

which is why the video asks 3rd Parties to be more honest, if it is about the number sold not the % then tell us. The video focuses on Ubisoft's remarkabout Wii U owners ddon't want "mature titles, the proves through the % that we do, we just don't have the numbers to back it up. The video is pretty good, if you haven't watched it

Ubisoft is about as dishonest as they come. See what they show at E3 (And then immediately start downgrading).