Topic: Why overly gruesome, sexual, or profane aspects of games aren't needed.

@Nintendo_Ninja True, there have been crimes committed partially (I say partially because the shooters were already crazy) due to violent video games, but I guarantee there'd be a lot more if there weren't any violent video games to being with.

Yeah, sadly it was. It might not always have been shown on screen, but it has been.

I'd just like to remind everyone that correlation does not equate causation.

Ooooh yeah, ever heard of custer's revenge? (At least that's what I think it was called). The 90's is when games started getting age ratings.

I will disagree on a personal basis. Been exposed to it for years and I swear a lot less than other people I know.

@shaneoh: Ahh, then you choose to question the study and random data. I don't blame you since there is a lot to consider. Bylaws, better forensic technology, more security, and etc.

@shaneoh I didn't say it was automatically going to make you say the F word every 5 words, I just said it's not gonna make you say it less. If it does something, it's use them more.

Yea shaneoh point it out. Also I didn't like the statement either. (I didn't make the graph.)

Personally, I think crazy, stylized, over the top violence (like you'd find in No More Heroes, Madworld, or God of War) is more preferrable to more realistic violence (like you'd find in Battlefield), as it's easier to seperate from reality.

With that said, I think developers should be allowed to make games the way they want them (as long as they fall within legal means), and I have nothing against people who want to play GTA or whatever.

also because those games are allowed to have fun with how stupid video game violence usually is (not stupid because it exists, but stupid because it's silly looking because video games)

Your profile pic makes your argument slightly less convincing.

@Super_Gravy Exactly, but as a gamer I hope it has helped. I just can't say it actually has or hasn't without knowing all the details

@Jaz007 Sorry, I didn't read it properly. But I would say that I do swear less than I did 10 years ago, despite constant exposure to profanities.

I swear less entirely as a reaction to hearing swearing too much. It's overdone and has lost all meaning, which means when I call someone a (insert lots of stars here), it doesn't mean as much, which makes me a sad panda.

It really depends. Mortal Kombat was basically rated T on Sega Genesis, then Nintendo rated it M once ESRB became more of a "thing".

Same concept, better graphics. That pretty much sums up any game that existed back in the 90's that would be considered mature.

Another example is Earthbound. That was rated E back in 1995, but now it's rated T.

Earthbound used it in a classy, respectful, manner like The Last Of Us did. Not in overdone fashion.

@Nintendo_Ninja
I get what you're saying, but ESRB ratings are the main "thing" people are going to reference in a discussion like this. Uncharted, for example, is a cover shooter game. All they got rid of was blood and headshot decapitation to achieve a T rating. You're still shooting people, even in rated T games. Starfox and Smash Bros. fall into that category, but it doesn't really bother me.

Are you ripping people apart, decapitating, brutally killing, or watching a lady strut her assets in Smashbros or Starfox? No.

@Nintendo_Ninja
Well, they're still shooting or fighting games. All I'm saying is that more games fall into this category than you probably realize, and they're still rated E or T. Mario "kills" self-aware Goombas and Koopas and it's rated E.

Zero Suit Samus?

But is the violence really worse because it is bloody?

Because you're not "mature." People who are "mature" will buy the games made for "mature" people as indicated by the "mature" rating. I am "mature" so I will buy and play those games. There are plenty of non-"mature" games that are still available for you and the rest of the people who are not "mature."

Hideo Kojima recently had an interview about a controversial scene in ground zeroes and why he felt it was necessary. Idk if he goes into more detail somewhere but he was trying to make a point or something and so the scene was necessary to him. If you cut that kind of story telling out because it's a video game, games will never become a part of our culture how movies and books have become, he said.
Not sure if that applies here but yeah.