Topic: Why overly gruesome, sexual, or profane aspects of games aren't needed.

AVGN even did an episode on them. ^_^

I'd argue there's a difference between pornographic material and straight up rape. But to answer Ms.Dark's point it probably has to do that the main Japanese porn industry seems to have a some what in direct rapey/humilating vibe that seems to go beyond the fantasy segment of most american rape or forced porn.

As to sexuality and Violence It really depends on the game and context that I find it disturbing or out of place. Take Uncharted for example it takes place in a world similar to ours and despite Drake being a Treasure Hunter dude is a Pyschopath to the point that this comic could be pretty accurate in terms of the world.

You mow down thousands of dudes over the course of the series which is at odds at the story when the game could have been more Platform heavy and focus o exploration with fire and fist fights used sparringly.

The killing in the Last of Us another game by Naughty Dog however is much more realistic and in some ways makes me wince at it, due to the shocking brutality to it. There's a scene early on when you as Joel pretty much kill two dudes because not only were they going to kill you but they were pretty upfront that they wanted to rape the 15 year old girl you have with you. Than we see something similar later in the game when you get into a firefight with a crew of guys who just happened to come across you and are desperate to do anything to surivie. You go through all of the and the last guy is on his kness crawling begging you for mercy and you with no remorse blow his skull open.

Well, I guess I'll just do the post I wanted to earlier, and just say that this is all fiction. As long as this is not happening in real life, I have no issues with what anyone puts into anything. It's not real. It's as simple as that. If you don't like it, you don't have to play/watch it, but not everyone is so affected by these things.

Just because it's not real doesn't mean it's not wrong. And just because "you don't have to play it" doesn't make it okay either. Those games affect the people who do play them, regardless of whether or not they believe "it's just fiction." What you let your eyes linger upon goes into your heart and mind.

This but to an extent as long as the game is rated accurately then anyone of that age or above should be able to buy it _{Except for games that are porn/rape just don't feel they really have a need to exist}.

So what? Am I going to go out and do these things in real life? Certainly not. Do I think people should do these things in real life? Ditto. If it's not real, I don't care what it is. All I'm concerned about with games is whether or not they're well made. If a game is trying to get by solely on violence, sexuality, etc.; chances are it's not going to be high quality. But if it's included because it fits the game's themes/characters/stories (the above The Last of Us is good example), I have no issues.

This where we move into the grey area of how impressionable people are and what effect this has on people depending on age everyone is different some will be affected some won't but I do feel age ratings should be more strongly enforced everywhere.

@Jazzer94 I do agree with this, though. Children maybe should not be exposed to this sort of stuff, but once you're an adult you can make your own decisions on what is appropriate for you or not. Of course at the same time I don't like the idea of lying to kids about what the world is really like, so there's a balance to be struck, definitely.But I don't think that just because there are some people who dislike these elements of video games, that nobody should have them.

Really depends how we define a lie, I've realised from looking after my 2yr old cousin for my uncle is that with little kids you try to ease them into how things work around them then eventually as they get older you let them discover stuff on their own and just support them as best you can.

@Jazzer94 yeah, 2 years old is a little young to start with that... they're still incapable of really understanding anything like that at that point. I just don't like the idea of patronizing children; at least not beyond the point where they can start understanding things a bit better. I only say this because I was very sheltered as a child, which I have only realized in the last few years how many things were withheld from me and it kinda bothers me a bit...

I think the problem with younger kids is that even media made for the younger set these days is usually overly violent. I noticed this when I was the only person not clapping when Superman killed Zod at the end of Man of Steel.

I can understand where you are coming from, me being a mild epilepsy suffer meant that my mum used to shelter me a lot when I was younger compared to my siblings, I wasn't really allowed to do much contact sport (except cricket and tennis) and could only do things like baseball, football and tree climbing when she wasn't around I only got a GBA cause I worked my butt off with reading and maths at home but only got to use it a tiny bit on weekends. The whole epilepsy thing was really taboo in my house I never really got clear answers from my parents it was only from my older brother that I began to even understand the condition I get why she handled things the way she did mostly cause she was just scared.

I kinda agree, but on the other hand, Ninja Gaiden and MGR come to mind and... I can't imagine those games without gruesome cutting To me, it actually adds to the experience. Anyone who played Soldier of Fortune when it came out will tell you what they did there was awesome.

Now sex or profanity... "Sex" in movies and games makes me cringe, and profanity actually make the game look childish when overused (see Witcher 2... best example of immature game evah).

The games without violence are good of course, but it's something among the lines "why have pepsi, when you have coke" - some people just need to cut the hands or heads off in the video game to relax.

@Jazzer94 oh I know what you mean! I have Asperger's, and when I was first diagnosed with it I had no idea what it was, and if I asked nobody would tell me anything... and still nobody will tell me about it! So everything I know about it has had to be from research I've done on it myself. So I know everything about it now, but it really irks me that nobody will tell me anything about it. :/

Eh cursing can't really be overused since the amount its used in a game like the witcher is end line with how a lot of people talk in the real world.

@Gioku This is hard for me to type I don't normally talk about it so only a couple of my friends know but I'm actually diagnosed with Asperger syndrome was at quite a young age, about all I know on it came from the UK organisation website http://www.autism.org.uk/about-autism/autism-and-asperger-syn... I only really started looking things up about it at around 15-16 when I became curious over the summer holidays. I found it really hard for me during early education to communicate with some of my teachers other pupils made school life really unbearable until I changed to a Steiner school then I actually began to enjoy school so I guess things worked out in the end.

Like where? I mean really, you can't even turn around in that game without cursing... And 50% of sentences in the game has the bombs somewhere. It is not used that much "in the real world"

@Jazzer94 I was diagnosed with it in... 7th grade I think? I only have it very mildly, though, but it's enough to cause me some issues. I'm very open about it now though, because it helps me to "get through it" if I talk about what I'm going through. So good for you then to talk about it.

@Gioku I'm just reluctant to say sometimes as I don't want to be treated as some type of special case so I normally wait till I know the person well enough that I feel comfortable talking about it without having this feeling in the back of my mind that everything will change.
Edit: Any I don't want to bore you plus I wanna go play some MK7 it was really nice talking about it with you.

@Jazzer94 I feel ya. I get that way too sometimes, believe it or not.