@SCAR392
Look at you scrambling to find a fumble in what I said. Crossgen games or not GUESS WHICH CONSOLE IS NOT GETTING GAMES? http://nintendoenthusiast.com/news/ubisoft-wii-u-owners-dont-...
“It’s very simple. What we see is that Nintendo customers don’t buy Assassin’s Creed. Last year, we sold in very small numbers.”
“What we see is that they are very interested in Just Dance, very interested by other kinds of games. So what we are trying to do is to focus more on the types of games they are interested in.”
You see that? That's why WiiU isn't getting Assassin's Creed Rouge and it's also why WiiU is getting Watchdogs about Half a Year later than the rest of the Systems. WiiU also isn't getting Batman Arkham Knight despite getting Arkham City, Origins, and Blackgate. WHY? THAT is a result of not being strong enough, considering Arkham Knight isn't going to be on PS3 or 360.
WiiU is the laughing stock of the ENTIRE gaming industry. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-one-and-ps4-but-not-wii...
Street Fighter on PS4 or Xbone?
"Hahaha, some time or other... RT" - Yoshinori Ono
WiiU?
"I apologize that we don't have plan for wii U..." - Yoshinori Ono.
Not Convinced Yet? http://www.gamespot.com/articles/metro-last-light-wii-u-cance...
"Our look at the Wii U extended to a very early look at some very early kits. We… we did some work on it, but we made a decision fairly early on that we weren’t going to commit further resource to it," Benyon said. "So yeah, we didn’t go too far."
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/why-tomb-raider-skipped-wii-...
"All three [other console and PC versions] are really trying to deliver roughly the same experience, but delivered best on each platform, and I think something like the Wii U often asks you to do something unique based on a unique interface," Hughes added. "That's something as a gamer I love, but it's something you don't want to do half-heartedly as a developer."
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/02/28/castlevania-lords-of-shadow...
"The reason why we are developing it on PC, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 is simply because that's the amount of people we got," Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2 producer David Cox says of development on the upcoming sequel. "If we want to do a Wii U conversion, that's another 20 people. We just don't have the resources or the budget to do it."
And Yeah WiiU is more than capable of running most of these games.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-assassins-cr...
"With all four versions of Ubisoft's trilogy-closer out in the wild, the Wii U certainly stands its ground against the PS3 and 360 releases. Besides a broken depth of field effect that crops up during several cut-scenes, the look of the game is nigh on identical in terms of native resolution, texture quality, its shadow rendering method, and environmental detail. Even down to the shimmering of the ambient occlusion effect beneath fields of grass, and the odd dialogue glitches that appear in the other console versions, Nintendo's hardware certainly delivers a very faithful take on the experience."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-black-ops-2-...
"The Wii U version matches the look of the Xbox 360 game and thus gives it an edge visually over the PlayStation 3 release, but unfortunately it comes up well short in terms of performance - an aspect that is all-important to the playability of a COD title. The frame-rate variance is such that the PS3 game feels generally smoother, while the 360 release feels like an entirely different game in the more demanding levels. Bearing in mind the commonalities in hardware design between Wii U and Xbox 360, we can't help but feel somewhat disappointed that Black Ops 2 under-performs so noticeably.
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Still, on the plus side, the multiplayer component of the game has emerged unscathed - if that's your focus, and you're willing to be patient for the online audience to grow in number, Black Ops 2 on Wii U is still worthy of consideration. The game also illustrates rather nicely the application of the GamePad for a new form of split-screen gaming, while tablet mirroring really is a sweet feature that we hope more developers embrace."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-need-for-spe...
"All in all, having taken a decade-long break from Nintendo since the release of Burnout 2 on GameCube, Criterion Games has used the Wii U to conjure up the definitive console version of Need for Speed: Most Wanted. It's not an overwhelming advance that matches the visual fidelity of the PC version in all regards, but additions and tweaks are numerous and well-considered. At no expense to the frame-rate, textures stand at the midway point in the quality spectrum, between the more blurry assets we're seeing on PS3 and 360 and the highest possible settings on PC. It's a worthwhile upgrade that extends to reflection draw too, with all other visual facets being identical, and the frame-rate coming away smoother regardless."
BUT It was because of bad press, first looks of games like Darksiders 2, Batman Arkham City, Epic Mickey showing off poor framerate, Screen tearing, and BAD controls and let's not forget the HORRID Load Times the WiiU had back in the day, VERSUS the then current gen consoles It was clear VERY clear that NO ONE wanted a WiiU.
You get the picture? The PS4 sold VERY WELL because it was marketed AND presented by the Press as THE Lead in Hardware and a System for Gamers by Gamers. It's why Gamers were more than willing to go out and buy "Remastered" or "Definitive" Versions of games they bought 1 year ago. That's not even the same thing with Windwaker HD which was a remake of a game that came out over 10 years ago, but Square couldn't entice us with Dues Ex they DEFINITELY got PS4 gamers attention with the promise of "1080p 60 fps" Tomb Raider and are now trying to catch Lightning Twice with Sleeping Dogs Definitive.
Hardware SHOULDN'T matter in the gaming world, but in today's day and age, it means EVERYTHING.
@LegatoSkyheart And look at you making all these links,holy damn.I counted 20 links!! And i bet i had the time, energy or just give a damn to go to all these links,there going to be old as hell and all of them saying the same thing.Graphics this power that god people can't make up new excuses about the wiiu.And no i'm not being a fanboy i'm just poking fun at all these links you made.
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@LegatoSkyheart
I'm not scrambling to find a fumble in what you said. I get what you said, and changing to x86 isn't going to automatically fix things, and might have even made things worse. I have the picture. Wii U isn't getting 7th gen games. That's why alot of people don't even think it's worth upgrading to 8th gen, yet. Xbox One and PS4 didn't get alot of games that Xbox 360 and PS3 did. Big deal.
It doesn't make sense why you would expect Wii U to get some games that Xbox One and PS4 won't get either. Wii U could have ran Far Cry 3, but you're probably an Xbox or PS person if you were going to play it anyway. Audience is a big part of it, but if Nintendo gamers don't want AC, it doesn't make sense to keep releasing it. I'm totally fine with that.
The audience isn't there, and the games probably would have been gimped anyway. Who cares? Go buy an Xbox One or PS4 if you want to play slightly enhanced 7th gen games that still run on 7th gen hardware. That's how much specs isn't mattering right now.
EDIT: Also, Wii U getting 7th gen games was one of the major reasons gamers said they weren't buying it. Now the same thing is happening to Xbox One and PS4, and it's ok. I'm not buying the BS, bro.
They didn't even try to get Arkham Knight running on Wii U. It didn't run on Xbox 360 and PS3, so it wasn't going to be a copy and paste job like the other games.
@LegatoSkyheart And look at you making all these links,holy damn.I counted 20 links!! And i bet i had the time, energy or just give a damn to go to all these links,there going to be old as hell and all of them saying the same thing.Graphics this power that god people can't make up new excuses about the wiiu.And no i'm not being a fanboy i'm just poking fun at all these links you made.
He didn't make anything. But, uh, are you serious?
Is the point not clear enough? Do... do you want me or someone else to read it aloud for you?
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@midnafanboy
The sad thing is...I didn't even try to find this links. @SCAR392
Now you're making contradictions here and making me seem like I'm the bad guy. Thing is, I don't like this position Nintendo is in. At this point in time Nintendo systems are what many are calling "Secondary Systems" and to me that's a No Bueno, son.
You see the PS4 and Xbox One...they can be solitary consoles. You can get one or the other, but while you may not get certain games it doesn't feel like you missed out on anything at all. Same goes for the PS3 and Xbox 360 which are surprisingly still relevant today. WiiU? YOU WILL BE MISSING OUT if you had JUST the WiiU. It's not the same situation at all. You WILL miss out on the major game releases even Games on consoles that it SHOULDN'T BE MISSING OUT ALL.
Am I a PS guy or an Xbox Guy if I enjoyed Playing Assassin's Creed even though the ONLY ASSASSIN'S CREED GAME I HAVE FOR EITHER OF THOSE SYSTEMS IS THE FIRST GAME ON THE PS3. The other games I have on the PC. Oh wait I enjoy Assassin's Creed I must CLEARLY LOVE Playstation man even though the first and only Assassin's Creed game I ever beat was 3 on THE WII U. Gee great logic there mate. Solid. Winner AAA Gold Stars.
Oh Far Cry! CLEARLY that's a game ONLY for Xbox and Playstation despite me owning all the games on PC. Yes I AM A XBOX GAMER because I like Farcry!
Oh but if those games were release they would be gimped anyway! BTW Assassin's Creed IV wasn't really gimped at all. It was about the same situation as Assassin's Creed 3, Call of Duty, and Splinter Cell. They weren't really gimped. There were lost features, but Assassin's Creed IV didn't really have important DLC since it turned into a stand alone title. Assassin's Creed 3 got all the DLC. And Splinter Cell the Multiplayer WAS there, it was just online only. I bet that Need for Speed game was overly Gimped too right? WAIT It was actually the Definitive Console version! WHO KNEW??/
In anycase Arkham Knight has proven itself and even Assassin's Creed Unity that the Processing Power of the PS3, 360 and WiiU can't handle them. Even the Division it clearly shows that those games are Next Gen ONLY, no last gen allowed. Unless I start seeing Box arts for Arkham Knight and Unity for PS3 and 360 I'm not expecting those games to be on WiiU. But games like Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes, GTA V, Darksouls 2, Tomb Raider....yeah I totally expected them to be on WiiU. Especially since that launch lineup had a LOT of 3rd Party support. The future was bright, but the candle blew out too soon.
The WiiU getting 7th gen titles and gamers knocking it down because of it was clearly a sign of Brand Loyalty, considering The PS4 and Xbox One launch titles were FILLED with Cross Gen games and guess what? Those gamers at those games UP. and why? like I said It's because those games promised Better Resolution, Better Frames, Better Performance. Things the WiiU FAILED to show. The WiiU at launch showed a DECREASE in performance, poor frame rate and an Okay Resolution. It wasn't until Windwaker and Pikmin 3 did gamers start seeing the "Wow" factor of the WiiU...but it was a year too late.
There is one reason companies don't support Nintendo and two reasons EA don't.
The main reason is money.
EA's second reason is their greed for power and control over everything the consumer does. They can't do that with the direction Nintendo take.
Money is the main reason though. Everything else is a scape goat.
@LegatoSkyheart
I'm not trying to make you look like the "bad guy". I just don't think this is all that big of a deal. I don't care if you or other people think Wii U is a secondary console. 6+ million of the Wii U install base probably only have a Wii U.
What games am I missing out on, exactly? Tomb Raider is on Xbox 360, Farcry 4 will be on Xbox 360, The Crew will be on Xbox 360, etc. I have an Xbox One, anyway, but I'd be lying to you if I said Farcry 4 was what I bought my Xbox One for. Wii U got alot of crap for having 7th gen games. Alot of the hype for Xbox One and PS4 was specifically that it would leave Wii U "in the dust" by getting 8th gen games, but now they are all getting 7th gen games almost 1 year later, so all the hype didn't mean jack, and alot of the criticism makes less sense than it did to begin with.
If you're playing games on your PC, then I don't see how it matters to you about anything Wii U gets. That's the thing. It looks like Xbox, PS, and PC people care more about AC being on Wii U(or not being on Wii U), than Nintendo fans do. What does that tell you? As far as the gimped-ness goes, it was there enough for people to criticise it. I bought Black Ops II on Wii U at launch, and I STILL think it is the definitive version aside from the DLC(which they shouldn't be spamming anyway), but other people didn't think so, or weren't Nintendo fans enough to buy the game on there instead. I agree that in some cases, that it doesn't matter whether a game was gimped or not, but that still isn't going to get gamers that regular play on Xbox 360 and PS3 to make the jump to Wii U, and some features were missing like local co-op or multiplayer for Batman. The issue is that people actually think that the framerate and resolution being worse or the same, respectively, is because Wii U can't handle it, They weren't optimized for Wii U, so they dropped a bit.
I don't even get why it would matter whether Wii U got better resolutions or framerates than Xbox 360. They were direct ports, which means they are unaltered version on the 7th gen build. They saw x86 consoles on the horizon that would give them an immediate graphics and performance boost. That is not to say that Wii U is unable to do the same, but that is how many looked at it.
I don't get how WWHD and Pikmin 3 coming out last August and October would be real signs. We saw gameplay footage from earlier in the year that was accompanied by a delay announcement, and that was still 1-2 months before Xbox One and PS4 came. I'm calling BS on the too late story, because this was before the other consoles even got announced.
What's the point of third party on the Wii U? Exclusives are suppose to drag in people for the console, what's the point if the Wii U had 3rd party support just like every other console?
The Megaman Battle Network series is underrated... I think, don't quote me on this.
There is one reason companies don't support Nintendo and two reasons EA don't.
The main reason is money.
EA's second reason is their greed for power and control over everything the consumer does. They can't do that with the direction Nintendo take.
Money is the main reason though. Everything else is a scape goat.
Yah Ninentendo is totally about consumer freedom that's why they are the only ones who ties digital games to consoles and region lock consoles, even fricking handhelds
There is one reason companies don't support Nintendo and two reasons EA don't.
The main reason is money.
EA's second reason is their greed for power and control over everything the consumer does. They can't do that with the direction Nintendo take.
Money is the main reason though. Everything else is a scape goat.
Yah Ninentendo is totally about consumer freedom that's why they are the only ones who ties digital games to consoles and region lock consoles, even fricking handhelds
And why they don't allow voice chat online and why they delete entire messaging services because a handful of people abused it
Nintendo is pretty much the most insular video game company out there. They too are extremely greedy and controlling.
It really is all about sales. This article is stupid.
Nintendo dropped the ball when they made the WiiU the way it is.
No. Third parties are responsible for their products. I agree the problem is sales but stop covering for the third parties and pointing the blame towards Nintendo. Third parties get poor sales because they don't back Nintendo in the same way. It is the same with Vita. When they start leaving XBO out in the cold due to poor sales you will stop covering for them because you will see how we feel.
I am one of the stupid who bought their products to prove a point but I can't remotely disagree with Wii U owners. They don't deserve custom when they give the last in the trilogy and give the others the whole trilogy. They pretty much give the impression they don't care by how they handle the system compared to the competition. That is THEIR fault. Not the fanbase or Nintendo.
It really is all about sales. This article is stupid.
Nintendo dropped the ball when they made the WiiU the way it is.
No. Third parties are responsible for their products. I agree the problem is sales but stop covering for the third parties and pointing the blame towards Nintendo. Third parties get poor sales because they don't back Nintendo in the same way. It is the same with Vita. When they start leaving XBO out in the cold due to poor sales you will stop covering for them because you will see how we feel.
I am one of the stupid who bought their products to prove a point but I can't remotely disagree with Wii U owners. They don't deserve custom when they give the last in the trilogy and give the others the whole trilogy. They pretty much give the impression they don't care by how they handle the system compared to the competition. That is THEIR fault. Not the fanbase or Nintendo.
They won't leave the XBONE because its close enough to the PS4 and PC that porting is cheap.... even if the sales are bad they still can make money on a XBONE port and have no reason not to go for one unless Sony pays for exclusivity.... the Wii U is different they decided to go with a console that 1) uses a complete different architecture to the other 3 and 2) its very underpowered... those two things makes porting a game originally developerd for PS4/PC more complicated and expensive.... so porting to Wii U doesn't make sense, that's why Wii U doesn't get games
Guilty Gear moving to PS4!? My god!! Third parties are really abandoning the Xbox One I guess!!!
No.
You can bet your ass that most if not all EA, Activision, Rockstar and UbiSoft tiles released this generation will be on both Sony and Microsoft consoles, while most if not all will be skipping Nintendo.
A couple of game series that were once Xbox exclusives now becoming multi-platform are hardly a sign that developers are abandoning a console. They are just expanding their market to make more profits.
And the "Tales" series is pretty much tailored towards Japanese consumers, who don't and have never purchased Xbox consoles, so it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why it makes sense for Namco to just focus on making those games for PS consoles.
Guilty Gear moving to PS4!? My god!! Third parties are really abandoning the Xbox One I guess!!!
No.
You can bet your ass that most if not all EA, Activision, Rockstar and UbiSoft tiles released this generation will be on both Sony and Microsoft consoles, while most if not all will be skipping Nintendo.
A couple of game series that were once Xbox exclusives now becoming multi-platform are hardly a sign that developers are abandoning a console. They are just expanding their market to make more profits.
Use your brain.
And what about all the Nintendo games not getting on your systems? Point scoring at this rate.
Those aren't the only ones I've seen either. I've seen many PS4 games and developers aren't saying if an XBO version will ever happen. Plus the Destiny DLC isn't getting on XBO for 1 year I believe. That is after the Spiderman 2 delay. When Activision put Xbox on the highest priority it is obvious the sales are hurting them. Having Xbox's biggest A-Team developer make timed DLC on the other system when they used to give Xbox early access to CoD DLC tells them you aren't happy. Besides that they are putting less resources into the XBO ports. Shifting such heavy focus into PS4 ports shows they are having to make cuts to make ports for XBO work so I wouldn't be surprised if ports don't come more often.
Guilty Gear moving to PS4!? My god!! Third parties are really abandoning the Xbox One I guess!!!
No.
You can bet your ass that most if not all EA, Activision, Rockstar and UbiSoft tiles released this generation will be on both Sony and Microsoft consoles, while most if not all will be skipping Nintendo.
A couple of game series that were once Xbox exclusives now becoming multi-platform are hardly a sign that developers are abandoning a console. They are just expanding their market to make more profits.
Use your brain.
And what about all the Nintendo games not getting on your systems? Point scoring at this rate.
Those aren't the only ones I've seen either. I've seen many PS4 games and developers aren't saying if an XBO version will ever happen. Plus the Destiny DLC isn't getting on XBO for 1 year I believe. That is after the Spiderman 2 delay. When Activision put Xbox on the highest priority it is obvious the sales are hurting them. Having Xbox's biggest A-Team developer make timed DLC on the other system when they used to give Xbox early access to CoD DLC tells them you aren't happy. Besides that they are putting less resources into the XBO ports. Shifting such heavy focus into PS4 ports shows they are having to make cuts to make ports for XBO work so I wouldn't be surprised if ports don't come more often.
And how is this any different then last generation, when several games were released on the PS3 and 360 that didn't see the light of day on other consoles? Or timed DLC exclusives? This is nothing new, so I don't know why you are acting like we are in the midst of some major shift.
This generation will play out the exact same way.
The vast majority of third party franchises/releases will be available on both the PS4/Xbox, both consoles will also receive exclusives, while Nintendo is left on the outside looking in as they won't receive any these games and will be forced to rely primarily on first party titles.
The vast majority of third party franchises/releases will be available on both the PS4/Xbox, both consoles will also receive exclusives, while Nintendo is left on the outside looking in as they won't receive any these games and will be forced to rely primarily on first party titles.
How is it playing out exactly like last generation? Xbox is getting kicked by everything. Actually I suspect there will be more people interested in Nintendo's first party titles than those willing to forgive Microsoft.
As for what games get where, there are already games PS4 is getting or that XBO missed. The problem last gen is Playstation was a huge brand and 360 successfully gained ground on a beast. The thing is being such a beast is what helped PS3 out of trouble. 360 was never the beast that Playstation was and has lost it's turf. You could be sitting here not being so sure of your XBO by February. Trust me, if it doesn't pick up in sales over Christmas companies will start putting their foot down. Given what is happening in Japan I'm inclined to think XBO won't have the abundance of games you think it will.
As others have said regarding third parties, money is the ultimate problem. Specs, ease of development, online policies for releases, none of this matters if they see the money.
They don't deserve custom when they give the last in the trilogy and give the others the whole trilogy.
Assuming you're talking about Mass Effect, they would have had to port 3 games at the same time, when that was not the case on the other consoles. Are you saying porting 3 games with no proof that Nintendo users would have purchased it would have been reasonable? Are you saying that your expectations of all 3 games is rational?
Nothing this guy is saying is rational. It's like having a debate with SCAR392 minus the unintentional humour.
They don't deserve custom when they give the last in the trilogy and give the others the whole trilogy.
Assuming you're talking about Mass Effect, they would have had to port 3 games at the same time, when that was not the case on the other consoles. Are you saying porting 3 games with no proof that Nintendo users would have purchased it would have been reasonable? Are you saying that your expectations of all 3 games is rational?
Is giving us the last in a trilogy and expecting it to sell amazing while others are getting a full remaster of all three reasonable? No nobody is going to buy some big story arch when they haven't played the first this is the main reason why AC, ME and even Batman failed. They where sequels to games that nintendo gamers never played. They would have had a bigger chance releasing a port of the trilogy
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