I dont have a long answer but I do have an ethernet adaptor, WiFi suffices at times but wired is better.
Nintendo also skipped on optical out. Cost me $200 for a new receiver.
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This doesn't count businesses, and I'm pretty sure no one is using a single Wii U to run a small business.
Yes but this is going to be the only option available to Wii U for its whole cycle and areas at least in London have now got the option to have like 300mb/s plus technology improves in leaps and bounds just look at the progress made in a decade who knows were we will be in 5 or 10 years from now when breakthroughs like this happen. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25840502
So having 40x the transfer speed of the average internet user today is unacceptable because in a decade, some people might have faster internet than 480mb/s?
Not to mention that there isn't even 480mb/s of data to even transfer to and from the Wii U. 480mb/s is virtually lagless. It would be as instant as local multiplayer to the naked eye.
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Yes but this is going to be the only option available to Wii U for its whole cycle and areas at least in London have now got the option to have like 300mb/s plus technology improves in leaps and bounds just look at the progress made in a decade who knows were we will be in 5 or 10 years from now when breakthroughs like this happen.
The Wii U adapter does 100Mbps easily and that's more than enough. That's enough to run a 4K video stream of which the Wii U wouldn't support anyway. That speed is fast enough to allow you to download a typical Wii U firmware or game update in about a minute. That's assuming you even have the ability to get a 100Mbps service which is, for most people, going to be an advance that happens beyond 2020. Well and truly after the death of all of these consoles.
As for performance of games that's all to do with latency and not bandwidth. You're not streaming large files when you're playing Smash Bros, you're sending button presses and character positions. If I measure latency of a wired connection of any kind within my LAN I get <1ms. I think some of the more accurate ping measuring tools have given me something like ~0.5ms +/- 0.1ms. Basically nothing really. If I then do the worst thing for latency and stack a wireless access point on a powerline adapter I get something closer to 5ms latency +/- 2ms. Even this is nothing if you're playing online as I will explain.
If I ping my ISP I get something closer to 16ms which is pretty decent all things considered. However if I'm playing online I doubt I'm playing against my ISP, I'll be playing against someone else at their home. So best case scenario I assume my latency is pretty awesome, which it is, and double it. So something like 30ms + any added LAN latency for the absolute lowest online game latency I could reasonably hope for. Now even in this ideal scenario the difference between 30ms with a LAN adapter and 35ms on a worst case scenario wireless isn't that bit. Worse yet it's more likely I'm going to be playing against someone in another country. So probably something closer to 300ms. Now the difference between 300ms and 305ms is even less of a thing, you wouldn't even be able to tell the difference.
So yeah, it being wireless primarily is nowhere near as big a deal as people think it is.
Optical Out is at least a legacy connection. (then again so is composite/s-video/component and you support them all.)
Ethernet is not, wired will always be more reliable than Wi-Fi.
Its about compatibility. It comes with HDMI only in the box for a start but it does support the legacy video connections for people who might not have HDMI support on the set they want to use. Seems unlikely in 2014 but entirely possible. How is that different to what they do with Ethernet except in somewhat of a reverse fashion?
The vast majority of people will be fine with WiFi and it'll work. There are a minority who would like Ethernet and I do agree that it's not legacy but instead a higher tier and entirely relevant option. For those people there is an option available to allow it. Which is all things considered not as bad as the legacy video connection option. If you have a setup that's good enough to have network points behind your TV then odds are you have WiFi. This'll be just a nice thing to do. If you lack the support for HDMI getting a different cable is required.
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Wii U doesn't have ethernet? didn't know this one more reason not to buy one.....
Haha. You're router must be trash, then.
Seriously, why are you even on the Wii U board? You don't see me trolling the PS boards.
EDIT: Besides, it does have ethernet, as long as you buy the LAN adapter. Apparently you can't figure this out, or something. Wii U is the least of your worries.
I had one hell of a mission to connecting to the internet because of this, that first update made it even worst. The only reason the Wii U doesn't have it is because it wanted to save money (cheap out) out instead ask people ridiculous amount for a standalone adapter.
By not including they basically blocked everyone with mobile connections who doesn't specifically have a 3G router from the internet.
Currently I'm using my PC has a 3G hotspot and sending that through my PC's wi-fi, but not everyone will be technically competent to be able to do that.
I see those LAN Adapters going for $25, if your in the US and that's expensive for you, in my country and a lot of other countries where they must first be imported we end up paying double that amount if you convert the currency.
By not including they basically blocked everyone with mobile connections who doesn't specifically have a 3G router from the internet.
For a start that's probably the dumbest way to connect a console to the internet. Unless you're severely restricted in your options, i.e. you're living in the bush, then just no. Fix your priorities, get a fixed line broadband connection before you even consider gaming. I don't even want to know how much you're paying for firmware updates and game updates given the ridiculous prices for phone data.
Secondly there's the fact that they really aren't restricting that in any way. Most of the mobile-sharing devices on the market if not all of them use WiFi and don't have any ethernet ports at all. Only the higher end ones tend to have that sort of functionality. Secondly there's the fact that pretty much every phone these days works as a wireless hotspot. You can share your mobile connection using your phone. It's pretty clunky especially in the bush but it does work.
Ethernet is really the premium option for people who specifically want something better than WiFi. WiFi is so ubiquitous that there are only a handful of scenarios where Ethernet is available and WiFi isn't. It would have been a nice feature out of the box but it's not there so just get over it. If you really want it get an adapter, it'll work just as well.
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By not including they basically blocked everyone with mobile connections who doesn't specifically have a 3G router from the internet.
For a start that's probably the dumbest way to connect a console to the internet. Unless you're severely restricted in your options, i.e. you're living in the bush, then just no. Fix your priorities, get a fixed line broadband connection before you even consider gaming. I don't even want to know how much you're paying for firmware updates and game updates given the ridiculous prices for phone data.
Secondly there's the fact that they really aren't restricting that in any way. Most of the mobile-sharing devices on the market if not all of them use WiFi and don't have any ethernet ports at all. Only the higher end ones tend to have that sort of functionality. Secondly there's the fact that pretty much every phone these days works as a wireless hotspot. You can share your mobile connection using your phone. It's pretty clunky especially in the bush but it does work.
Ethernet is really the premium option for people who specifically want something better than WiFi. WiFi is so ubiquitous that there are only a handful of scenarios where Ethernet is available and WiFi isn't. It would have been a nice feature out of the box but it's not there so just get over it. If you really want it get an adapter, it'll work just as well.
I don't know if things are better on the Wii U since is more modern but I have a PS3 and live in a shared house and I had lots of troubles with Wifi when other people in the house where using wifi or bluetooth devices because of interference connected through lan and no more problems
First people accuse Ninty of not going with the times, now they want them to support wires again.
This world irritates me.
Wires are awesome. I trust wires a lot more than magic invisible signals passing through the air. Just like I prefer a good old CRT to a LCD for my PC
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First people accuse Ninty of not going with the times, now they want them to support wires again.
This world irritates me.
Really false analogy. Actually, supporting Wi-Fi was really smart and forward thinking out of the box in 2006. However this was also a time when Wi-Fi didn't have as deep a market penetration as it does now and this is a console that can stay in one spot.
-360 came out in 2005 and none had built in Wi-Fi until the slims in 2010
-PS3 came out in 2006, same as Wii, and less expensive 20 GB model lacked Wi-Fi.
Both these consoles used built-in Ethernet (PS3's is gigabit, 360 is 100 megabit.) Both these consoles had this built-in day one as do their successors (Xbox One is now gigabit as well, not that it matters much right now with most people's internet speeds.)
Wii required an expensive adapter or an inferior third-party knockoff. Not desirable but at least there's an option. Still, when your competitors offer Wi-Fi and Ethernet out of the box, people will criticize you.
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There would be much, much more complaining if the Wii U had Ethernet but not WiFi out of the box. I mean it's all good and well to say the console doesn't move and you'd be right to say it's better if you can get it wired. However most people don't have their TV next to their router and most people don't have any sort of cabling throughout their house. Their modem and router will usually be in the kitchen, master bedroom or study because that's where people wanted their phone placed when they built their house.
A phone next to the TV? Don't be ridiculous. Even now if people had the choice they'd probably again decide on the study as the place to put their router. Most of the gear they would want to be wired is in there already. Really, who in their right mind would want bright, flashing lights under their TV? I mean there are some people who have the ability to use Ethernet around their TV, I am one of those people. Most people haven't put the required effort into achieving it.
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There would be much, much more complaining if the Wii U had Ethernet but not WiFi out of the box. I mean it's all good and well to say the console doesn't move and you'd be right to say it's better if you can get it wired. However most people don't have their TV next to their router and most people don't have any sort of cabling throughout their house. Their modem and router will usually be in the kitchen, master bedroom or study because that's where people wanted their phone placed when they built their house.
A phone next to the TV? Don't be ridiculous. Even now if people had the choice they'd probably again decide on the study as the place to put their router. Most of the gear they would want to be wired is in there already. Really, who in their right mind would want bright, flashing lights under their TV? I mean there are some people who have the ability to use Ethernet around their TV, I am one of those people. Most people haven't put the required effort into achieving it.
what you described as ridiculous was exactly how my house is.....
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