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Topic: Why are you so certain Wii U will catch fire, and that it won't be a failure?

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CorporalPegasus

21. Posted:

To be honest, all next-gen consoles will probably struggle. The majority of the people seem to be fine with current consoles. Many games that are coming out for the next-gen are also coming out for the current-gen, and with the huge install base from PS3 and 360, no one is really going to want the new systems for these games when they can get them on the current system. And then there's the economy right now, people and companies dont want to take risks.

Its a problem, but its not just exclusive for Wii U. PS4 and XbOne will suffer from the same thing.

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@biglittlejake I'm not following. I think what you're trying to say is that nobody is making games for the Wii U and nobody has turned theirs on for months. Am I correct? Because in that case, it's okay to have opinions. We're all individuals and you don't have to make us accept your way of thinking in order for us to like you.

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The Wii U won't be a failure because of: SSBU, Mario Kart U, 3D Mario U, Monolith Soft's X, Bayonetta 2, Raymand Legends, Sonic Lost World. As soon as these games are released, people will have the awesome games that Nintendo is known for, and maybe finally people will stop all the complaining. I for one am sick of the 'console war'. I like Nintendo. lovemeright.jpg

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@biglittlejake What makes you so sure the Wii U will crash and burn, huh?

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HeatBombastic

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biglittlejake wrote:

Since EA is pulled its plugs in making Nintendo games, could this be a pattern of third party companies losing their faith in the Wii U. The Wii U Gamepad is a gimmick at best, ask anyone that is not a gamer and it scares them away. It does not seem welcoming. I am one of the few that actually buy EA's sports games. If N doesn't pick up and heal and have EA make games for N, won't this just make all sports fans leave N and buy a PS4? (Thats my plan, and a Vita) Do you guys think N failed with the Wii U, and why?

I don't really understand what you're saying. I don't even think you know what you're saying. Getting a Vita and a PS4, a bit hypocritical isn't it? Yes, it's too early to decide that the Wii U will succeed, but if that's the case, then it must be too early to say it won't.

They didn't lose their 3rd party support permanantly, and they still have 3rd party on the 3DS.

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Mickey wrote:

@biglittlejake I'm not following. I think what you're trying to say is that nobody is making games for the Wii U and nobody has turned theirs on for months. Am I correct? Because in that case, it's okay to have opinions. We're all individuals and you don't have to make us accept your way of thinking in order for us to like you.

The second sentence you said is completely false. Are you saying it's okay for people to make opinions on false information?

While it's "alright" for people to have different opinions, that doesn't exclude other people to have an opinion on that opinion. Yes, we don't have to have to make other people accept our way of thinking, but if it's "alright" to have an opinion, no matter how bias and prejudice it is, it should be alright to try to convince other people your way of thinking.

There's a difference between arguing for what you believe to be true and shoving your ideals down someone else's throat. Even fighting fighting physically for your beliefs isn't always shoving your ideals down someone else's throat, although that can be the case at times.

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skywake

27. Posted:

To answer the rambling OP I'm not sure but I really don't care that much at all. If the question is "how" given the state it's in, the lacking power and the third party ramblings then the answer is simple. First party content and maybe a price drop if that fails.

Same thing happened with the 3DS as many would repeat to you and it wasn't third party support that saved them. Nobody cared about third party content, nobody cared about it's level of performance, nobody cared about whether or not 3D was a gimmick. It lacked games and the price was too high. So they dropped the price and in the space of 5months had OoT3D, Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7... then it sold very well indeed despite the fact that the Vita launched.

Surprise, surprise guess what's probably headed to the Wii U by the end of the year? Wind Waker HD, HD Mario and Mario Kart U. That's the how.

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A more eloquent version of the rant by @HeatBombastic above me:
You have the right to hold an opinion but that doesn't give you immunity to people challenging you. If you can't handle the challenge your opinion is weak and probably isn't worth holding anyway

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biglittlejake

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I think it will crash and burn because the gamepad is a gimmick at best. Have you been reading how many third party companies have decided not to make games on Wii U? Do you read the articles everyday on nintendolife and online they are losing support. " Johan Andersson, Dice’s Frostbite Engine Technical Director, took to Twitter this week to explain that attempts were made to port Frostbite 2 to the Wii U. The tests ended poorly, so the next-generation Frostbite 3 games like Battlefield 4 and Dragon Age III certainly won’t be coming to the Wii U. Similarly, Unreal Engine 4 won’t be ported to the Wii U by Epic. It seems that the fate of the Wii U now comes down to whether or not Nintendo will ship important high-profile first-party games, and cut the hardware price quickly enough to save the platform.Rumor has it that Nintendo is shirking traditional third-party console developers, and instead it’s focusing on courting mobile devs. By making it easy for smartphone and tablet developers to port their popular games to the Wii U, Nintendo could be creating a home for smaller casual games. That’s a perfectly acceptable tactic, but Angry Birds and Plants Vs. Zombies alone just aren’t enough to save the Wii U." http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/155322-six-months-in-is-the... "After a Wii U launch that was full of ports of big games from big game companies, it appears that the winter and spring will see the Wii U missing out on most of the major games coming to its rival consoles. The Wii never had tons of big-name, big-game support from major third-party game publishers. But that's partially because the Wii couldn't even run the first Mass Effect or Grand Theft Auto IV. The Wii U can run the same games that run on other consoles. Tech isn't much of a barrier here. Timing and business are the key factors. Nintendo and the companies making these games have to want these games to be on the Wii U. They have to make the effort.

The Wii U launched with Mass Effect 3, Call of Duty: Black Ops II, Madden NFL 13, Assassin's Creed III and several other major games that also were released for PS3, Xbox 360 and, in some cases, PC. It's been reasonable to think that such support for Wii U will continue, but in the next six months, it seems that it won't. One hopes that Nintendo and the world's major game-makers at EA, Ubisoft, Take Two and elsewhere will have a few more chats, maybe fund some ports. Otherwise, if you only own a Wii U, you'll be missing out on some very promising games." http://kotaku.com/5967668/most-of-early-2013s-biggest-games-s...

The main point; if you only own a Wii U, you'll be missing out on some very promising games.

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skywake

29. Posted:

biglittlejake wrote:

The main point; if you only own a Wii U, you'll be missing out on some very promising games.

Why? What makes you think people will only play games on this console? Why do you even care enough to make a ranty thread about it?

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biglittlejake wrote:

I think it will crash and burn because the gamepad is a gimmick at best. Have you been reading how many third party companies have decided not to make games on Wii U? Do you read the articles everyday on nintendolife and online they are losing support. " Johan Andersson, Dice’s Frostbite Engine Technical Director, took to Twitter this week to explain that attempts were made to port Frostbite 2 to the Wii U. The tests ended poorly, so the next-generation Frostbite 3 games like Battlefield 4 and Dragon Age III certainly won’t be coming to the Wii U

The Frostbite Engine thing was a lie. People lied before when saying why their game didn't come, some were cleared up, some were not. The gamepad isn't a gimmick at best, it's called a controller. How is playing SNES games with the tv off, and playing in the closet on a handheld like device is a bad thing?

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31. Posted:

skywake wrote:

[edit]
A more eloquent version of the rant by @HeatBombastic above me:
You have the right to hold an opinion but that doesn't give you immunity to people challenging you. If you can't handle the challenge your opinion is weak and probably isn't worth holding anyway

I adore it when people have better communication skills than me :P

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Mickey

32. Posted:

@HeatBombastic won this thread

Wait... did you just say the Gamepad is a gimmick. That's it. I quit. I'm movin' on...

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HeatBombastic

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Mickey wrote:

@HeatBombastic won this thread

Wait... did you just say the Gamepad is a gimmick. That's it. I quit. I'm movin' on...

I could've sworn skywake won this post. He just summarized what I posted in two sentences.

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biglittlejake

34. Posted:

You guys have nothing backing you up. I keep finding stuff. This is pointless.

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HeatBombastic

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biglittlejake wrote:

You guys have nothing backing you up. I keep finding stuff. This is pointless.

Nothing backing us up? And you're just finding "stuff". I have articles and videos I have read, but the Wii U won't just "crash and burn" because it'll have a decent library by the end of the year.

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36. Posted:

Can Wii U handle Unreal 4?

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37. Posted:

And you're making the assumption any of Nintendo's competitors will catch on, come flying out the gate with great sales off the bat.

Honestly? It won't happen. I'd place my bets that if anyone fails, it's pretty much all the companies in the console market at once. I believe there's more chance of Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft all selling at Wii U or below levels than Microsoft or Sony selling fantastically in this economy.

Prove me wrong.

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38. Posted:

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Can Wii U handle Unreal 4?

All I know is that if the PS3 can handle an engine, so can the Wii U.

Please don't mention "slow CPU". According to "things" and "people" I've seen, they think that the Frostbite engine would still work on the Wii U if it worked on the PS3 ;)

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Slow CPU :p

On second thought, I'll research it.

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Can Wii U handle Unreal 4?

Yep, after Unreal maker retracted it's statement saying that it can't.
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