Topic: Which Wii U games can't be played solely on the gamepad?

It's not a silly limitation for just a home console. It's a silly limitation for a home console that advertised off-screen play as part of its appeal. I already have a 3DS and Vita! And what with the PS4 now supporting the Vita as a screen, pretty much all of gaming can be done without a TV. Which is great in my eyes!

As long as you have proper amount of space between you and the screen it shouldn't matter which screen you are looking at for your eyes. If looking at the TV screen hurts your eyes I recommend sitting further away from it and/or changing some video settings on it. I do agree that Off-TV Play is awesome, I wouldn't be able to play as many games if it weren't for that, but a game not using it doesn't mean it is limited. When a game doesn't support Off-TV Play it normally means they used the GamePad in Unique ways to add to your experience. It would be like saying a movie not supporting 3D is limited, 3D is an optional feature that doesn't make the experience any better (maybe there are a few experiences where it does but not the majority of movies)

I sense you may have mixed up "in my eyes" and "for my eyes".

I guess I did, but the second half of my post is still relevant.

I'm curious as to what exactly your situation is. I'm assuming from your above comments that you own a PS4 and Vita and play those games by streaming to the handheld. Judging by the topic itself, I am thinking you also own a Wii U, as well, and you may or may not own a 3DS.

If you can afford multiple systems and, presumably, games to play on those systems, why can't you have a TV to more fully enjoy those games on?

Thing is though they don't advertise the off tv game feature on every game and it appears that you expect that. Some games can't have off tv feature cause as someone said the game pad is used for other features. Also to expect Nintendo to something cause Sony can or does is just silly. If you want something that does like a PS4/Vita combination then stick with that.

If I want a Whopper I'm going to Burger King I am not going to go to McDonald's and expect a Whopper just cause they have hamburgers too.

Seriously a guy can't ask about which games don't support off tv play because it is an important feature for him with out being bashed and told to buy another system or stop complaining. SMH

I think Lego City and Zombi U don't support off tv play because of lazy developers that didn't put much importance in the feature. Yeah those games try to use the gamepad uniquely but it would be very simple to make those games work off tv.

We were discussing how the lack of Off-TV play isn't a limitation in the sense that it has allowed them to do unique things with the GamePad. Just to add, ZombiU on 1 screen wouldn't be the same experience, it would be a worst experience.

Is any off tv play experience better than on tv? Off tv is nice for convenience sake. Not having that convenience is a limitation....I can't play this game off tv but I can play that game off tv. There are plenty of games that have 2 screen experiences that also support off tv play.

Besides this limitation argument is off topic...the guy just wants to know some games to avoid because they don't have a feature he finds important. He shouldn't have to defend himself for asking the question.

The best advice is just to google a game before you buy it to find out if it has the feature since they don't make it very clear if a game supports it or not.

. Lazy? Or maybe they just didnt want to do it because the GAMES were nintendo Wii U exclusive and might not ever get ported anywhere else so why would they feel the need to make it support off tv play. On top of that the games came out pretty early in the Wii U life cycle so Nintendo might asked the respected developers/publishes to make it use the Wii U gamepad capabilities to show off the how unique the system is.

This is my speculation

If you have a bad TV then off tv works better for stuff that requires precision controls.

I agree with your speculation. I also think "they didn't want to do it" is exactly the same as what I mean when I say they were lazy. Off TV play is a feature that would have added value to the software for many. It could even patched in like in the Pikmin 3 update allowing touchscreen controls.

Off tv play is a feature that seems to have matured over time where most games support switching with the minus button now days. Earlier games were still trying to figure out the gamepad but unique controls in Zombi U and Lego City I think could have easily been done with off tv or with pro controller support.

Saying that using the gamepad to it's full potential of touch capabilities, speakers and motion controls while the TV screen shows the game's imagery is 'lazy' and is a 'limitation'.

ok

You seem to haven't been playing any of those games? Very much of the gaming experience is the use of dual screens in both those games.

And today, a new major indie game for Wii U was released that requires the Gamepad and dual screens. Not because the developers were lazy, but because the developers designed the gaming experience based on the Wii U hardware.

I like to play my VC games on the gamepad,but play my Wii U games on the tv just to enjoy the HD

No one's bashing I just find it odd that someone buys a system with such a minimum feature and then says that it limiless. Yeah its limitless because it's not a direct main feature. The game pad was created for various features. Some companies choose to use the game pad for off tv play, others use it to display maps or item inventory. The game pad wasn't designed for remote play.

Since no-one seemed to mention it yet, I would add Costume Quest 2 to the list. Unlike Lego City and Zombi U, however, this game has no reason for it, because all the gamepad does is display an illustration. Whoopidy-freakin'-doo!
There was supposed to be a patch for it that adds off-tv play, but that has yet to happen to my knowledge; it's a shame, too, because Costume Quest 2 is actually a pretty good game that deserves to be able to utilize the gamepad for at least this basic of a function. (yes, I'm aware that "basic" doesn't translate to "easy to implement", but still)

Now people are bashing off tv play as a feature?

I think zombi u and lego city could be played solely on the gamepad quite easily and that the 2 screen features are not integral to the experience even as much as they tried to make them enhance the games. Its not too hard to imagine how these games would work on one screen. Ideally these games would exist as they are and simply have an optional value adding feature that has far and away proven to be the #1 feature of the gamepad. I don't see why wishing these games had this feature bothers anyone.

I wish all software supported as many control options as they could since this system has so many controller options.

Who is bashing Off-TV play? It is a feature I use a lot on my Wii U. I just think it shouldn't be shoved into every game out there, just like I don't think dual screen experiences should be shoved onto every game. ZombiU gives a certain experience with dual screens that a single screen couldn't do, for that reason excluding the feature makes sense. I would rather the game give me the best experience rather than give me options, the same reason why I am glad Mario Party doesn't have Online Multiplayer. Why have a feature in a game when it causes the game to deliver a worse experience? If not having a feature makes the experience better should they add the feature just to put a check mark on the back of the box?

Seriously dude are you trying to derail this thread here or are you just not reading what people are saying. Why are you trying to provoke people.

No one is bashing anything. The game pad can be used for many different things so why would Nintendo and other companies just use it for one thing? I like the fact that all games don't need or make use of off tv play. Some games it's a novel idea others not so much. I am glad that companies see it that way and just aren't using it for remote play.