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Topic: What would you do if [insert company here] dropped out of manufacturing gaming systems and became a third party developer? A totally mature discussion.

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FloY

this is like talking about satan at church.

blasphemy!

FloY

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pixelman wrote:

Sorry, but I don't really understand why you're asking "what would we do?"

What could we do? Bombard them with emails begging them to go back to console making and thus "go bankrupt"? Get angry and swear off Nintendo games forever? Buy a system to play Nintendo games on like normal? It's basically asking "will you be a silly fanboy?" or not.

Anyway, I don't really see the Wii U flying off the shelves at launch, but I don't see it failing abysmally either. Nintendo's ridiculous amounts of success with the Wii and DS has got to provide some kind of cushion for a rough start. I'm pretty sure SEGA didn't see the levels of success prior to the Dreamcast's failure that Nintendo has seen recently.

tl;dr I'm not worried, wtf question.

I would agree with you, but the somewhere along the line the DS cushion failed to support the 3DS in its early months. Unless the WiiU doesn't have a strong start, it will be a few months till it picks up its game.

Before Nintendo dropped out and became 3rd party, I'd like to see if they can handle making a HD game. It's where this industry is going and if they cannot produce the same experience as other HD games then...

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And can you go a little faster?!

Knux

LztheBlehBird wrote:

Oh yes they did

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But that's not as awful as this.

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mamp

I'm pretty sure we can all agree that none of that was as bad as Plumbers Don't Wear Ties.

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skywake

Not going to happen in the next generation and the console lifecycle is lengthening anyways so I'm not sure how realistic this question is. Also the GPU that the Wii U has is a modified version of a GPU that does ~960GFLOPS which is not a trivial upgrade from the 360/PS3 ~250GFLOPS. That's pretty important because it means that the Wii U's GPU will be closer to the next gen (rumoured to be 2-4TFLOPS) than the current gen. When the guys behind the Unreal 4 engine talked about their demo at E3 they said that they were developing their engine to work on the TFLOP era of gaming which, I would argue, the Wii U just slides into. So we're a while off this prediction I think.

If it did happen? I'd stop buying Nintendo consoles and play games on something else.........

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skywake wrote:

Not going to happen in the next generation and the console lifecycle is lengthening anyways so I'm not sure how realistic this question is. Also the GPU that the Wii U has is a modified version of a GPU that does ~960GFLOPS which is not a trivial upgrade from the 360/PS3 ~250GFLOPS. That's pretty important because it means that the Wii U's GPU will be closer to the next gen (rumoured to be 2-4TFLOPS) than the current gen. When the guys behind the Unreal 4 engine talked about their demo at E3 they said that they were developing their engine to work on the TFLOP era of gaming which, I would argue, the Wii U just slides into.

Even so, it has been reported that the controller takes up a hell of the power offered by the WiiU.

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It's like, I just love a cowboy
You know
I'm just like, I just, I know, it's bad
But I'm just like
Can I just like, hang off the back of your horse
And can you go a little faster?!

Hokori

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skywake

@Aviator
1) Developers don't have to use the second screen if they don't want
2) The same applies to PS3 - Vita stuffs and to anything second screen tech the next gen uses
3) Depends on what they're showing on the second screen... I doubt pushing a map is chewing up that much power

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Aviator

A sandbox game is too sandboxy. OH THE HORROR!!

@skywake Then what's the point of the screen on the controller? I hate the pro controller not only because of its weird ABXY placement but it removes the need to play with the screen. The whole point of WiiU was to play with two screens, but now it's, You can play, butifyouwanttoyoucanalsousethistabletthing.

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QUEEN OF SASS

It's like, I just love a cowboy
You know
I'm just like, I just, I know, it's bad
But I'm just like
Can I just like, hang off the back of your horse
And can you go a little faster?!

V8_Ninja

Aviator wrote:

Before Nintendo dropped out and became 3rd party, I'd like to see if they can handle making a HD game. It's where this industry is going and if they cannot produce the same experience as other HD games then...

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Is this supposed to be a jab at HD games being extremely similar or something else? I can't quite tell.

A Bit More On Topic: If this were to happen, I would probably be sad for a week or so and then move onto another platform. I'm not going to end my gaming career just because me favorite manufacturer has stopped creating hardware, no matter how much I like them.

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pikku

Sorry, but you lost me at

Knux wrote:

since Kinect is a million times better than what Wii MotionPlus ever was

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V8_Ninja wrote:

Aviator wrote:

Before Nintendo dropped out and became 3rd party, I'd like to see if they can handle making a HD game. It's where this industry is going and if they cannot produce the same experience as other HD games then...

Is this supposed to be a jab at HD games being extremely similar or something else? I can't quite tell.

No it wasn't. I was talking about experience, not gameplay or something else.

It would be like an apple and a pear gave me the same experience when eating them. They are different in their own ways, yet they both offer the same thing.
a stupid comparison, but it works... i think...

QUEEN OF SASS

It's like, I just love a cowboy
You know
I'm just like, I just, I know, it's bad
But I'm just like
Can I just like, hang off the back of your horse
And can you go a little faster?!

skywake

Aviator wrote:

@skywake Then what's the point of the screen on the controller? I hate the pro controller not only because of its weird ABXY placement but it removes the need to play with the screen. The whole point of WiiU was to play with two screens, but now it's, You can play, butifyouwanttoyoucanalsousethistabletthing.

Just saying that they can do that if they want because there's nothing stopping them and that there is a good chance that PS4/720 devs will face the same decision.

Also the Wii U tablet is 7" right? It's probably going to have a screen that's somewhere around 600x1024. So when you see Rayman Legends doing it's thing at 720p on the TV in the Wii U demo you need to realise that it's also rendering the same scene with different elements at something close to 720p again. Want to do a second tablet? You start to see what they were talking about when they mentioned the performance hit. The DS and 3DS face the same problem, do you use both screens OR do you put something static and boring on the second screen so you can push that first screen to it's limits?

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LzWinky

[quote="Knux"]

WaveBoy wrote:

Sorry, but you lost me at

pikmaniac wrote:

since Kinect is a million times better than what Wii MotionPlus ever was

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Same here. Kinect's 2 main flaws is that you have nothing physical to hold onto.....It's pretty ridiculous, plus buttons are needed. What am i supposed to pretend I'm holding an 'air shotgun'? And the other drawback is that Kinect games are limmited to 30fps as are sony move based titles. Kinect isn't perfect that's for sure. It seems great for excersize, dance and other types of unique mini game based experiences, but for everything else The Wii remote plus destroys it.

And you lost me at "<blockquote>"

Also, what is "excersize"?

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shingi_70

Kinect 2.0 smacking all y'all up.

Eh the beer part of kinect are the voice controls.

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Knux

Sony_70 wrote:

Kinect 2.0 smacking all y'all up.

Eh the beer part of kinect are the voice controls.

That's the best part of Kinect! You can play Kinect games by drinking beer! Kinect + beer = awesomeness.

Knux

skywake

You can play Wii Motion Plus with alcomahol...... but it's much more likely to end badly if you give drunk people something to hold while they flail uncontrollably

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V8_Ninja

Aviator wrote:

V8_Ninja wrote:

Aviator wrote:

Before Nintendo dropped out and became 3rd party, I'd like to see if they can handle making a HD game. It's where this industry is going and if they cannot produce the same experience as other HD games then...

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Is this supposed to be a jab at HD games being extremely similar or something else? I can't quite tell.

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No it wasn't. I was talking about experience, not gameplay or something else.

It would be like an apple and a pear gave me the same experience when eating them. They are different in their own ways, yet they both offer the same thing.

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If you're implying an HD game produces a similar experience to any other X-definition game, then why are you even be concerned about Nintendo not being able to produce an HD game that creates that specific experience? Either you're not making sense or you must mean something more/else when you talk about "HD Games".

EDIT: I completely understand what you're talking about, Aviator. In retrospect, this comment was stupid.

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