Nintendo tried that before (N64 vs PS1, GameCube vs PS2 and Xbox), and both times they got whooped.

The only time Nintendo has been truly competitive was during the Super NES vs Genesis era. I'm referring to their success with 3rd-party support and sales.

Because their attempts were half-@$$ed at best.

Regarding Nintendo being lazy, they most certainly are not. I doubt that a CEO that cuts his salary in half as a form of self-punishment would run any sort of company that could be deemed lazy. Not to mention, Nintendo is the company that innovates. They're always setting the bar higher and making new standards, that ain't lazy.

Regarding the actual topic, Nintedo could dominate the market really well if they made their consoles significantly more powerful. Everyone loves Nintendo's first-party games; you can't think of video games without thinking of Mario. All they need is better third party support. If they did dominate, I'd love all the new die-hard Nintendo fans that once stood so strongly next to Microsoft or Sony. Those guys are, like, "o_O calm down, fanboys" so often.

So how did Nintendo go from their edgy "Play it Loud" campaign during the Super NES era, to becoming a conservative casual/family/kiddy oriented company today?

Of course it will be the best console. Bye bye Sony and MS. Can't say i miss you.

Sony and MS aren't going anywhere.

Damn. Are you sure?

Lol, yes I'm sure. Xbox and PlayStation are popular systems. They have their fans.

Yeah, I'm with you. You're right but who will listen...... (they do what's in their minds and leave us behind) right?
(I'm assuming thats what he meant. )

In my opinion, this concept would never happen. Nintendo has not released actual specs including clock speeds and memory bandwidths. The only information we have is that the CPU is from IBM and the GPU will be a Radeon from ATI in the 700 family. Hardware alone will not make the system either.
It seems that the tablet controller is the key factor everyone is looking at. I have yet to find out if more than one tablet can be played on the Wii U at one time. If Nintendo is banking on the tablet as the must have for the console, it would make sense to have multiple tablets on one system.
Note: On both points, do not flame me unless you have actual, verifiable proof that you can link to.
@19Robb92 I agree completely with you that Nintendo needs to stop cutting corners. Look at the newly announce second circle pad add-on for the 3DS. Seriously, I thought it was a joke at first. Yet the people here at NL seem to eat it up.
I have been a long time fan of Nintendo. But with the online support and games you see with Xbox, well, some of the games on PS3, Nintendo has miles to gain just to catch up. A HD Wii with a tablet controller won't do it in my opinion. With the Wii, they seen stellar sales.

That would mean that Nintendo adopts Sony's sales philosophy for consoles: max hardware quality/specs at a retail price close to the building cost, and then rely on the games sales for real company's profit. But this will never happen with Nintendo, so dont worry.

And you having anything positive to say towards Nintendo will never happen either.

And the Wii U will never be the best console ever. nothing will ever take the number 1 spot away from the NES. That's just how it is!

I highly doubt it, but IF it'll be the best selling console ever... Then I'll buy it. Oh: NES so owns it.

Well said!
When it comes down to it, if the Wii U were close in terms of graphical power compared to the PS4/Xbox720 and had greater 3rd party support the Nintendo hate train of tweenies would greatly be reduced to pikmin poop, unless the 'Mario's a fag' remarks and the like keep rolling. Personally, I don't care if the Wii U isn't up to graphical snuff as the other 2 beasts....Because Nintendo is capable as shown thousands of times that they're absoutely brilliant with art direction. I just want a native 1080p for their titles instead of 720p which automaticaly means scaling on 1080p sets. Just having a '1080p' to select in the Wii U's video options doesn't mean that the games are 1080p. Once NIntendo confirms this i'll be at ease.

Anyways, I'm not too excited about the Wii U just yet at all actually, my focus is on the Wii and 3DS. However once Nintendo's next E3 kicks into gear I'm sure we'll all be foaming Ecto Slurpee Slime from our mouthes.

Never happen. Journalists and investors on hellbent to push Nintendo to make games on smartphones. And, well, lots of people are biased against Nintendo (and for the most part, contradict themselves).

Example:
IGN had a gameplay article of what the writer thought of the game. He said it's the same game blah blah blah we'll have to see how it turns out when it releases later this year.

On the flip side, in terms of Call of Duty games, they praise it as if a CoD game has not come out in 10 years. Same goes for a majority of gaming news websites.

Do I hate CoD? Nah. Not a big fan, yeah, but no. I just don't like how people these days contradict themselves- because really, MK has had far more gameplay enchancements than Call of Duty- MK is even much more older (1992) and it's on it's 7th installment, where CoD, what? It's firs game came out in 1999 or 2000 or something and it's on it's 8th and going on to it's 9th next year. CoD4 improved on everything and made things better. Then, they decide to release the game every year (I don't have much of a problem because it's not like they're taking my money to make it anyhow), journalists for the most part praise it. But when a quirky, new game comes out, or a fun shooter such as Borderlands rolls on out, they want to compare for CoD for some reason. Same thing with Halo, which I find much more enjoyable than CoD because the former is chaotic is more fun for me than CoD.

So, yeah. Nintendo's system won't be the best in terms of the public because they'll always have something against Nintendo.

Looking at the big picture, though, Nintendo and Sony are going to prosper next gen because they actually have strong first party titles as well as the third party support (even Valve is really interested in WiiU). Microsoft, I see them struggling because they really heavily on 3rd parties. I knew it would come back to get them. Look at Sony- they have recently been purchasing all these developers that are working on PSVita titles. Microsoft is just throwing money around for exclusives when they should be investing in building their own first party divisions. And please, get Rare to work on Jet Force Gemini, Kameo, Perfect Dark, Banjo, Conker- shoot, you have a great developer and it's going to waste.

Okay, there's my rant. I'll be picking up the WiiU at launch and will be looking forward to Smash Bros.
Sales would sky rocket when a new Smash Bros. came out. And I think the WiiU will be the PS2 of next-gen:

Underpowered compared to other consoles, but not leaps and bounds.

wii u WILL be the best system ever and it WILL beat ps4 and xbox720 i love how sony/microsoft fanboys are so concerned about graphics even though next gen is about gameplay can't wait to see the dissapointed looks on their faces wii u brings gameplay AND graphics,Nintendo is awesome they don't rely on graphics for a good gameplay to put it simply : WII U WILL BE EPIC !!!!!

Nin-pal Glad you are excited but good lord man I hope you dont have a heart attack before the things is released. With that being said, I am cautiously optimistic about the Wii U being a rather good next gen console and hopefully playing an awesome new Metroid platformer in 1080P along with continuing the franchise's legacy of its amazingly sensusalizingly atmospheric music!

i take pills im cautious but exited just hope it does better than 3DS and i look forward to the music too

It still won't be better than the Vita.

umm... wii u isn't competing with vita 3DS has that job