Topic: What GC VC games could look like if they were upscaled to 1080p

@Happy_Mask Hold start while the game is loading. While the screen is dispalying "Nintendo 3DS." It only works for gameboy and game gear games.

Do that in the gameboy games, for the game gear games you go into "screen settings" in the virtual console menu and select "dot by dot."

Oh, I already knew that. Now I feel stupid calling it gameboy mode >.<

I don't know if there is an official name for what it is. I don't know why Nintendo had to be so secretive about it. Why couldn't they include all that stuff in their vc menu like sega did? Eh... Sega does what Nintendon't...

Mmm. Like dropping out as hardware manufacturers.

Anyhow, I could believe they wanted it to be more of a sort of "easter egg" setting, maybe. Less than likely, though.

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why would watching a blu-ray on a 55" HDTV be any more enjoyable than watching the VHS tape on a 10" portable CRT? it's the exact same movie with the exact same scenes and actors, right?

i don't think you'd agree with this logic, but that's pretty much the argument you're applying to games. i've actually played metroid prime in 1600p _{don't ban me!} and yeah, it is more enjoyable for all the reasons i've (and a lot of other people) already posted. you see more detail. you notice things you never could before. it's not a slight enhancement... seeing a wii/GC game in HD feels like you're playing a new game on a whole new system.

here's windwaker to illustrate my point.

beautiful game, but could you see the hlyian text above the archway? the engravings on the upper walls of the town? the design on the flag near the top of the picture? the individual shingles on the roofs, or each rudder on the windmill?

try it in HD (may have to scroll).

that's the amount of information already in the game that you're losing in SD. you don't need to enhance the graphics or add new visual flourishes to make the upgrade to HD meaningful because the sheer amount of stuff that's already on the disc waiting to be unlocked is so great.

i don't know about you, but i think that's a big deal. people sat in chairs for hours on end putting those details into the game and it's unfortunate that in the end, players won't even see half of them due to the low res output of the system the game was on. why not just admit that it would be a good thing to have these games presented in a higher resolution that does their visuals justice? the games are still great in SD, but there's no possible argument you can make to convince me that they're not better in HD (and again, i know that because i've played them both ways ).

.... ? no comment....

@romulux Very good point.
However to achieve this Dolphin multiplies the internal resolution and it takes a very big toll on the GPU.
But playing Wind Waker in 720P is amazing though, and that's just with 2x internal resolution.
(Please correct me if I'm wrong, the more you know and such.)

edit: Your setup must be ridiculous.. confound you...

I know you all think I'm being stubborn, but this is how I feel about this situation. If the Wii U had a GameCube VC library and it upscaled the games to 1080p, I would enjoy it. I would play the games all the same, but I wouldn't enjoy it more than the original version. I know that the pretty HD is supposed to immerse me more, but if I wasn't immersed the first time in the world, why would I be now that it is in HD? And if I was immersed the first time, why would HD immerse me more? They don't need HD to reel me in. I'm already there. If the HD is already there, then I'll enjoy those games for what they are worth.

Don't get me wrong, I love HD and I think it looks amazing, but if the original stood up perfectly over the years in SD, why would HD make it a million times better?

@kyuubikid213 it wouldn't.
It would just make it look better. That is all.
Personally I prefer games with an Art Style rather than super-hyper trying to be realistic.

Wind Waker is probably the perfect game for HD. Looks amazing in dolphin.

I concur. While the older graphics do give the game a sense of character, I would lunge at the opportunity to play a game like Wind Waker in HD on the Wii U. Just look at those colourful surroundings, that atmosphere...

I want Super Mario Sunshine in HD.

you won't know that until you try it! hopefully you get the chance.

we've got to mind the forum rules with the HD talk, but my pc isn't all that great. i just built it new, so it has up to date but modest components. that's all it takes these days.... the wii u would probably be more than capable of uprendering games without any issues. it does make me wonder how long each release would take though, considering how few n64 titles we got on the wii vc.

HD is more important to some people than others. That is all that needs to be said here.

I feel graphics are more important to the game itself, and some people choose to appreciate details better than others. It's not really just centered on "HD, ooh! HD, aah!". That generalisation makes us out to look like we're just shallow-minded, and pay less attention to the gameplay - to me, graphics is an aspect of gameplay, and I believe many others sharing my opinion on graphics would agree. But even if others may not, I respect their thoughts nonetheless.

Anyway, just voicing my perspective. Back on track.

I don't think we ever were in this thread.

Too true. Play an FPS on different resolutions on the PC, and you'll find aiming is appreciably different.

Graphics are hella important. I find it funny when people say the art style is the most important when artstyle is just an extension of graphics. Compare twilight princess to the Wii U tech demo. Both using similar artstyles but the difference in graphics are a astounding. But a good base artstyle does a lot for a game. Wind Waker still looks great today because of the graphic style that was chosen.

Its best when the two work in tandem. Probablyxwhy I love 2D games since you dint have as many limitations

2D>3D in a lot of cases and that those were just 2D platformers and fighters I posted.

I would post a screenshot of Final Fantasy XIII, or Nier, or Dark Souls, or Journey, or Lost Odessey, or The Witcher 2, or Gregory Horror Show, or... to demonstrate that 3D is as capable of throwing up beautiful art style,but meh, it's late. Google search yourself those names

Well, some of the games he posted are 3D...

Anyways this makes me wonder how would Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life look upscaled to 1080p, the game already looks great the way it is

@LordOtakWiiU below me: These are not examples of HD.

Ok now I see it that DKCR post lookse great in HD, ahhh who am I kidding, they all do even the castlevania one