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Topic: What else would be worth "HDing"

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skywake

61. Posted:

Atariboy wrote:

Most of what we think of HD remakes have originated from the Playstation 2 with a dash of Dreamcast, Xbox, PSP, N64 (Thanks to Rare and XBLA) and GameCube material tossed in the mix (And at least one 3DS game with that Resident Evil game making it to consoles recently).

As well as Playstation and even SNES, NES. I rest my case, that's what I've been saying. They might not be as common, especially on Sony's platform given they don't have control over much pre-PS content, but they do happen.

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2D games upscale so nicely that I'm not sure that a Street Fighter II HD style version (the only 2D classic that comes to mind that runs in HD with redrawn sprites) of Super Metroid would offer much benefit over what we already have via the Wii U's Virtual Console.

Again, Ducktales. It can happen and has happened. Obviously with some SNES era titles there's not much you can do to improve them visually. Something like Super Mario World for example the blocky sprites are most of the appeal. With something like Metroid though I think the appeal is more in the atmosphere than the actual look of the sprites.

Plus with games like Super Metroid you don't need to imagine too much. Fans have already done the work for you:
http://www.dsogaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/super_met...
I think something like that could be done and would be quite an improvement over the VC

Also not going to happen at all but Donkey Kong Country did use pre-rendered sprites. So if they re-rendered them at a higher resolution you'd get something much, much better than the scaled version on the VC. Same with games like Yoshi's Island. Again though I'm not saying that they will happen or even should but just that if they did it would be a huge visual improvement. With the right title you could get something awesome.

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62. Posted:

Atariboy wrote:

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VC on Wii U technically outputs the games at 1080p. Wii VC outputs them at 480p. Your retro games will already be in 1080p(full HD) even though they aren't remade.

Really? That's a bit of a copout. It's not the same at all.

I'm just trying to say that even if remakes don't happen, they'll still be in 1080p via Wii U VC. I'm not opposing remakes at all. I understand they're better, but we can't really expect a remake of every single game.

Especially if they got Wii Mode to run in complete 1080p, I'm pretty sure that wouldn't warrant a complete remake of a Wii game, graphically. It would be a bonus, but even without remakes, I would be content with the original game as-is. Even 1080p would be a pretty big improvement without remaking every game.

Super Mario Sunshine or whatever else will still look good in 1080p, or 480p for that matter. The VC WILL get the games in 1080p, at least. That's all I'm trying to say. I will not reject a remake.

Wii Mode will never render games at 1080p. The best it can do is upscale them (And deinterlace for the odd 480i release like Resident Evil).

Upscaling can be nice when done well like on the Wii U. But it in no way, shape, or form approaches the visual quality of a HD port.

Source? This is just speculation, bro. Wii Mode is technically hardware software, running software. I'm pretty sure they could get Wii mode running in 1080p if they really wanted to. It doesn't sound impossible to me. Wii mode runs games off of the Wii U.

If you play a game in Wii Mode on the GamePad, the Wii U is still technically in control of all of that. The Wii U specifically tells you you can't use the GamePad as an input method during Wii Mode. Just think of it as Windows 7 BC in Windows 8. You can access different OSs seemlessly(as far as I know).

The Wii U should be able to enhance Wii software by it's own means.

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Ya that why actually better graphics and online are improvements they're making to HD remakes. I'm not saying Wii Mode will render 1080p, but it would make Wii BC a hell of alot more important. They could offer Wii games on the eShop, and people would expect them to be in HD anyway.

If I already have the disc, why not just let me play it rendered in 1080p? The GCN already had tons of games in widescreen. One of those games wasn't Wind Waker. Again, just speculation. They could still sell a Super Mario Galaxy dual pack Wii game at the store and guarantee it will run in 1080p.

It would be a bonus I'm not expecting, but not ruling out.

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@Atariboy
If you haven't noticed, Nintendo has added alot of features people were asking for as far back as Wii U launch. If turning Wii mode into HD can get them to sell select Wii games for the entirety of 8th gen moving past 7t gen, I'm pretty sure it would pretty worthwhile to try and get such an enhancement to work.
Like you said, they could sell Galaxy, Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword, Punch-Out!!, etc. for all of next generation in HD via the Wii U Wii mode.

No doubt it will/would take work, but if it sells more 7th gen Wii software that they can continue to distribute, I'd say it's not out of the question. Just by observing the obvious improvements to Wii mode that today's update has brought, it doesn't seem out of the question.

The ext. HDD is still technically able to be accessed via Wii mode on the Wii U as well. We'll just have to see whether Nintendo takes advantage of the improvements they can make to the Wii mode using the Wii U.

BTW, Starfox 64 on Wii used the Wii hardware to run the game which got rid of framerate "issues" in the original. They eventually updated it to run like it originally did, in terms of slowdown.

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65. Posted:

You'll see a small selection of Wii and GC games on the eShop rendered at 1080p with the same assets before you'll see full support for rendering Wii titles in Wii Mode at 1080p. Don't take that as me saying it'll happen, take it as me saying how unlikely I think it is ;)

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They could still sell WiiWare games on the eShop, you would just have to boot them up via Wii Mode. Maybe Wii Mode will disappear if Wii U takes complete control of it, though.
Who knows.
I honestly didn't think Wii Mode would get surround sound or GamePad support, but it happened. Not because I didn't think it could, but because I didn't think that Nintendo would do that.

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The Wii U would still have to access Wii Mode, it would just do it for you automatically. Right now, you have to go to Wii Menu and boot up a Wii game manually.
If the Wii U ran Wii games from the Wii U menu, it would still be doing all those manual operations automatically. The Wii U would access your Wii WiiWare game by selecting its channel on the Wii menu, you just won't see it happening.

Maybe these gradual improvements are necessary in order for it to be automatic and integrated. Again, all speculation.

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