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Reala

I think they meant for the life cycles to be more like that of PS2, with PS360's still being sold alongside their successors rather than them taking up 2 normal cycles worth before moving on, though I'm sure 360 got pretty close to covering 2 gens time wise.

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shingi_70

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The ten year cycle was always a buzzword for we want these conolses out for so long that they make crazy profit margns to make money while our next gen ramp up. It was Sony/Microsoft's version of Nintendo's third pillar BS they used with the Gamecube/Gameboy.

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I went to my friend's house and played around with the Xbox One last night. Honestly, being mostly a PC gamer, I'm not too impressed. We looked at Assassin's Creed 4 on the system (not the BEST game to look at solely for graphics, I know, but it's all he had), and to be honest, the PC on "high" settings is equal or better (from personal experience).

But the Kinect, which is the big difference-maker here, was lackluster at best. My friend's voice commands (speaking the correct commands) were only recognized about half of the time. After only an hour or so, he started getting so frustrated that he even called it a "gimmick," and this is coming from a married man who just spent 500 bucks on a new piece of hardware - you would think he'd be a bit more forgiving of his new investment that he was obviously looking forward to. And I couldn't agree more. THIS is what a gimmick is - something that adds a bit of functionality every now and then, but barely even works. The Wii U gamepad, contrary to opinions of those who haven't used it, is NOT a gimmick. It works 100% of the time and does what it is supposed to do - the Kinect does not, at least at this stage.

On a whole, I was so underwhelmed with the system (UI looks pretty much the same as 360/Windows 8) and the Kinect that I'm definitely leaning back toward PS4, and even then probably not until next year. We actually stopped playing around with the Xbox and played Mario 3D World instead and had a blast - I then went home and played Link Between Worlds and continued to have a blast. So what does the Wii U mean to PS4 and Xbox One? It means better games and more fun, at least right now.

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RancidVomit86 wrote:

I feel as if my IQ has dropped a but with the direction this thread has gone.

You mean the downplaying of the other two sales.

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Where you guys using the right commands. I;ve noticed that unlike siri or Google Now the kinect's voice commands are very percise. You can;t inflect or use a different wording at all.

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It doesn't matter. The last thing I got to say in this thread, is that the Wii U sold an average of 700,000-900,000 per 3 months in the past year. Even if it didn't sell gangbusters throughout the ENTIRE year, the Wii U still has enough owners out there to make it a relevant console.

It's not even about comparing sales at this point. Wii U owners could easily say that there are more Wii U systems sold than PS4. It doesn't matter if it's been out for a year longer to get those sales. The point is is that it does, now. It's more of a place holder than anything, really.

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skywake

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Good to see how effective KIller Instinct is at louring in the NintenZoids

Actually if I was to get one now I'd probably buy Assassin's Creed and Forza. In terms of software they're about on par with each other. The thing that has me leaning towards the XBOne is, and I'm shocked I'm saying this TBH, the Kinect. Purely for the quality of the camera and the wideness of the lens for Skype. Then there's the controller which also looks like it has had more thought put into it.

but still, at the end of the day there's not much that's compelling in the way of software. I'm more than happy to wait this out and see how Valves attempt at an open platform console pans out. If they get that right and the ecosystem gels in the way that it could it will be possible to have PC quality gaming with the entire Steam back-catalogue on my TV, on my desk and maybe even something as good as the Wii U GamePad wherever my router will reach. So that's what I'm waiting for.

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Speaking of sales stats there are some interesting ones for the week of the PS4 launched. Obviously the headliner would be the fact that the PS4 moved just a touch over 1mill in its first "week". However there are some other interesting sales boosts.

The Vita jumped by 228% which you might come to the conclusion was due to the PS4 launch. However most of that was in Japan where it had a 4x sales boost from, for the Vita at least, a fairly reasonable base. In the US it doubled going from horrible to bad. How the PS4 impacts its sales long term still remains to be seen. Wait for launches in other regions.

Everything else sold better than the week before. Everything. The Wii U had a sales bump and it was enough to make it probably the best week for the Wii U in the year so far but it was hardly compelling. Again, everything gets a sales bump this time of the year. Will be interesting to see what impact Super Mario 3D World has on sales.

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kkslider5552000

I like how you started with it being interesting and ended with confirming that this happens every year.

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skywake

kkslider5552000 wrote:

I like how you started with it being interesting and ended with confirming that this happens every year.

Yeah, I started writing the first part as I was reading it. Noticed that Wii U and Vita sales were up... and then noticed that all console sales were up....

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Socar

So from what I've seen, both ONE and PS4 have sold a million. But the games from ONE are far better reviewed than PS4. I'm actually surprised that Killer Instinct is given a great score. I thought for sure Rare was gonna end up being mediocre after it released Nuts and Bolts.

3D World will no doubt boost the Wii U sales. But I don't like the way Nintendo right now markets their products. its........just........there instead of saying.......WOW!!!!! or something like that.

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CountWavula wrote:

RancidVomit86 wrote:

I feel as if my IQ has dropped a but with the direction this thread has gone.

So has mine.
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Solado

SirGreatNose wrote:

Does anyone remember when both Sony and Microsoft said the 360 and PS3 would be around for 10 to 12 years? What do you suppose forced their hands? My theory is the release of the Wii U. There is absolutely no need for these systems yet. A casual glance at recent software proves it.

That being said, yes, there was a need for Nintendo to release a more powerful, HD system. I think the other two were fearful of a 360/PS3/Wii U market. And rightly so.

Nah, Deffinatly would not be the Wii U causing it.
PS3 / 360 were old tech with old hardware, it was time to change it all up as the speed at which technology is going forward is faster now than ever. GTA V for example pushed the consoles to the limit and when games reach the consoles limit I think it's time to start a new plan of action and move forward as consumers expect more quality and visuals out of a game. Sony and Microsoft pushed each into into the new generaion of console, not the Wii U.

The Wii U isn't supposed to go head to head with the new PS4/XBO, it's doing its own thing and I am convinced it will be a success down the road.

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Contrite

Hmm, I'm not really sure.

If I'd have to guess here and now, I'd presume that all three consoles will sell about the same as each other.

Personally, I don't see why most people would bother buying a PS4 or XBone if they already have a PS3 or 360.

If they get some really amazing exclusives down the line, sure, but if you look at the hardware, it's just a graphics boost. Which from my point of view are extremely irrelevant when picking a console to buy.

The Wii U at least has the premise of new ways to play, which is; coupled with Nintendo's exclusives, about the only reason I bother with consoles to accompany my PC.

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Tasuki

Contrite wrote:

Personally, I don't see why most people would bother buying a PS4 or XBone if they already have a PS3 or 360.

Well for me I got a PS4 cause I have an Xbox 360 so I missed alot of the Sony exclusives that the PS3 had like Journey and Last of Us for example.

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skywake wrote:

because

Well, I said most people. And "most" people do not seem to be overly interested in how the graphics look. And I have a hard time seeing anyone who plays a lot of games picking a console based on graphics, if that is a high priority you're looking at the wrong type of machine to play games on. At least that's how I see it.

I might just be weird though.

Or wait, I am weird, though I do not know if I am in this context.

Tasuki wrote:

Well for me I got a PS4 cause I have an Xbox 360 so I missed alot of the Sony exclusives that the PS3 had like Journey and Last of Us for example.

Right, that makes sense. If you've stayed with one of them for the last gen, and then getting the opposite of the current gen for a heap of exclusives you've missed.

Hmm, I thought neither the XBone or the PS4 was backwards compatible though. Did I just imagine reading that?

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Tasuki

@Contrite: Well the PS4 isn't backwards compatible per say. By next year Sony hopes to release their streaming service Gaikai which will stream PS3 games onto the PS4.

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Contrite

Tasuki wrote:

@Contrite: Well the PS4 isn't backwards compatible per say. By next year Sony hopes to release their streaming service Gaikai which will stream PS3 games onto the PS4.

Oh right. Well that's good.

I don't really trust streaming games myself though.
Input lag is.. annoying.

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kkslider5552000

skywake wrote:

Contrite wrote:

Personally, I don't see why most people would bother buying a PS4 or XBone if they already have a PS3 or 360.

because

Most owners of the 360/Ps3 will never see comparison videos for next gen, let's be clear about this. Like that's as delusional as thinking X will cause most Wii owners to upgrade (much as I hate to admit that...)

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