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21. Posted:

Not much........can be determined until after the holidays.

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22. Posted:

What does the Wii U mean to PS4 and Xbox One?
It means Vita and Smart Glass.

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@Ryno You do know Microsoft has had the Smart Glass functionality for awhile now don't you?

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Having the GamePad and Wii remotes is probably the best thing going for the Wii U.

Having the GamePad actually benefits the Xbox One and PS4, as well, because it will bring more games that support a second screen. If 3rd parites are smart, they'll utilize the GamePad effectively, then apply that same idea for Smartglass and PS Vita. That will make more people want to take advantage of the second screen option on other systems.

The only advantage is that Wii U has the second screen included out of the box, and I'm surprised Sony hasn't tried to get some Wii remote games on their system. I know Umbrella/Darkside Chronicles made it's way to PS3 in HD and that was only controlled by Move as far as I'm aware.

The same thing could be said about Kinect games and PS Eye. All the companies have somewhat similar devices at this point, so I don't see why the systems aren't sharing as much games as I think they should be.

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@RancidVomit86: Yes, I do know that and Microsoft should implement it for more things other than the Miss Universe 2014 though depending on how it's implemented I may buy a One just for that.
Yes, I am aware that it will be used for more then that.

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26. Posted:

Nintendo doesn't need to compete with SONY or Microsoft, Mario should practically sell itself this holiday season.

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There are two reasons that the Wii U will not sell in similar quantities as the Wii:

1. Dedicated 'gamers' were driven away from Nintendo by the Wii
2. The very casual 'gamers', that had otherwise never so much as bought a games console, don't need a Wii U because they have a Wii

So Nintendo are left with a very limited target audience.

But gaming has changed recently, where the choice used to be consoles or PC it is now a three way choice because Nintendo offers something genuinely different to Microsoft and Sony, this is a good thing.

But the Wii U simply will not sell anywhere near as many systems as either the One or the PS4. In the long run it doesn't really matter. Sony make spectacular losses, Microsoft lack the willpower to keep making consoles (strong rumors that they want to sell the Xbox brand). I strongly suspect that in 20 years Nintendo will still be on the gaming market, Microsoft won't be, Sony likely won't be either; just my hunch.

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Third party games are for casuals.

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I don't get why gamers want third party games so much. If first party games are good enough for the system, then why would they need third party support?

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30. Posted:

Ryno wrote:

What does the Wii U mean to PS4 and Xbox One?
It means Vita and Smart Glass.

I'm not sure Vita streaming will amount to much. Looking at the video demos of it's its hardly something I would be interested in given how badly it performs. And I'm someone who's a huge advocate of that feature on the Wii U.

For game streaming to work it needs to either be running on 5Ghz or wired Ethernet. Even better on Gigabit or dual-band n/ac. 2.4Ghz doesn't cut it.

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TwilightPhantom

31. Posted:

Honestly I think the Wii U is an excellent system. And as of right now, it has better games than the Xbox One and PS4. That might change in the future, however. Based on polls and such, most gamers seem to favor the PS4, but I don't know why. That system is extremely overrated. Playstation has nothing going for it, other than the Naughty Dog games maybe.

There were ton of launch issues too, with the systems dying. Now it's true though that the Wii U is missing out on third-parties, whilst that is less of an issue with Xbox One and PS4. I think people value the third-parties, and the higher specs... which is why they might want those consoles.

Keep in mind that for the most part right now people aren't purchasing the consoles based on the games, but on the brand name and promise of the future. Last gen lasted a long time, so people are eager to get their next-gen console, perhaps with the same brand as the one they had last-gen. If it's for the games alone, then Wii U is the clear winner this holiday, but brand loyalty is the killer.

Can Wii U outsell the other two consoles? I'm not sure. That depends how well Nintendo plays its cards and markets the console. If it keeps going like this though, it might not. We'll have to wait until Smash and Mario Kart come out to see if those will really help boost sales.

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pukka-pie

32. Posted:

Artwark wrote:

I don't get why gamers want third party games so much. If first party games are good enough for the system, then why would they need third party support?

I suppose people want quantity and variety. Personally I hope the Wii U has a much much smaller selection of games than the Wii (the shear amont of trash can be off-putting) but just as many great 3rd party games: Sin & Punishment, Okami, Xenoblade, Red Steel II, Little Kings Story etc etc

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MonocledMetroid

33. Posted:

Xenoblade and Sin and Punishment are first party games.

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Xenoblade and Sin and Punishment are first party games.

In that they weren't developed by Nintendo?

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Regardless of their developers the properties are wholly owned by Nintendo, and in the case of Xenoblade the developer is owned as well.

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pukka-pie wrote:

MonocledMetroid wrote:

Xenoblade and Sin and Punishment are first party games.

In that they weren't developed by Nintendo?

Xenoblade is a Nintendo game. First Party games usually mean that Nintendo owns the IP and paid for development.

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37. Posted:

shingi_70 wrote:

pukka-pie wrote:

MonocledMetroid wrote:

Xenoblade and Sin and Punishment are first party games.

In that they weren't developed by Nintendo?

Xenoblade is a Nintendo game. First Party games usually mean that Nintendo owns the IP and paid for development.

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38. Posted:

the WiiU means to PS4 and XBOne the same thing it means to anyone and also the same PS4 and XBOne mean to anyone. a videogame console that people might or might not buy depending on their tastes and also on the price and that has games being sold that can be played on it, now it's up to each person to chose which one has more games they want to play, simple like this.

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39. Posted:

TwilightPhantom wrote:

Honestly I think the Wii U is an excellent system. And as of right now, it has better games than the Xbox One and PS4. That might change in the future, however. Based on polls and such, most gamers seem to favor the PS4, but I don't know why. That system is extremely overrated. Playstation has nothing going for it, other than the Naughty Dog games maybe.

There were ton of launch issues too, with the systems dying. Now it's true though that the Wii U is missing out on third-parties, whilst that is less of an issue with Xbox One and PS4. I think people value the third-parties, and the higher specs... which is why they might want those consoles.

Keep in mind that for the most part right now people aren't purchasing the consoles based on the games, but on the brand name and promise of the future. Last gen lasted a long time, so people are eager to get their next-gen console, perhaps with the same brand as the one they had last-gen. If it's for the games alone, then Wii U is the clear winner this holiday, but brand loyalty is the killer.

Can Wii U outsell the other two consoles? I'm not sure. That depends how well Nintendo plays its cards and markets the console. If it keeps going like this though, it might not. We'll have to wait until Smash and Mario Kart come out to see if those will really help boost sales.

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rockodoodle

40. Posted:

Good post. And maybe Nintendo knows this. Just make it through this generation and they will be the last man standing. It wouldn't surprise me if they caught a nice second wind and sold to the level of the 3ds. 34 million is nothing to sneeze at and odds are the majority own a mario/zelda game. Plus, some of the better titles are coming out in the next 12 months, some even in the next 3-4 months.

Mario will be good enough to sell some systems- then when kids' friends start playing them, they will want one too.

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There are two reasons that the Wii U will not sell in similar quantities as the Wii:

1. Dedicated 'gamers' were driven away from Nintendo by the Wii
2. The very casual 'gamers', that had otherwise never so much as bought a games console, don't need a Wii U because they have a Wii

So Nintendo are left with a very limited target audience.

But gaming has changed recently, where the choice used to be consoles or PC it is now a three way choice because Nintendo offers something genuinely different to Microsoft and Sony, this is a good thing.

But the Wii U simply will not sell anywhere near as many systems as either the One or the PS4. In the long run it doesn't really matter. Sony make spectacular losses, Microsoft lack the willpower to keep making consoles (strong rumors that they want to sell the Xbox brand). I strongly suspect that in 20 years Nintendo will still be on the gaming market, Microsoft won't be, Sony likely won't be either; just my hunch.

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