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Topic: What does Nintendo have to lose by making the gamepad "optional"?

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641. Posted:

blaisedinsd wrote:

RoryLee wrote:

I'm just wondering if he's using the Gamepad to post on this thread?

I tried but text entry is not that easy as with a key board or an iphone.

But anyway I feel I have made vastly superior arguments as whey this makes sense and the arguments against tend to not really address why it would be bad for business to do this. No one can predict Nitnendo and this is my first time trying so we will see. Kart or Smash I think.

I have a WAY easier time using the GamePad versus a phone. Phone screens are small and there isn't a stylus, so that's entirely reliant on opinion. You can still use a keyboard anyway, but it's easier to have it all in one place. I think it really depends on the screen size and stylus support.

You THINK you've made a superior argument, but I'm pretty sure Nintendo doesn't agree, because otherwise it would have been optional in the first place, and basically isn't the goal they have with their console.

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642. Posted:

The wii u is backward compatible with all wii accessories pretty much yet it plays the newest releases in hd.

That can be attractive at 50% the cost of a ps4 that is not backward compatible and forces you to buy new expensive controllers and who's graphics have yet to be too much more impressive than ps3

Wii u also offers a solid traditional controller for those who didn't like the motion control and wiimote nunchuck

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643. Posted:

It wasn't optional in the first place because this was the gimmic to sell the console. It has failed at being that. A price drop is more important now than requiring the gimmic because the console has been struggling.

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644. Posted:

My problem typing on the gamepad is that the key board is to big and you have to tap type. A smaller keyboard where you type with your two thumbs is far more efficient for most people.

And why do people continue to insist I despise the gamepad? I love it and would pay an extra $100 for it. The frequency that it is assumed I hate is a tell of how weak the opposing argument is.

It's all about how great the gamepad and blindly ignores mountains of evidence of how this would be a no lose move for Nintendo to make when kart or smash launch.

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645. Posted:

So I guess I addressed all your fears and made my point.

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Spoony_Tech

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646. Posted:

No, people realized they have a life and trying to convince someone that even though this might happen it's the wrong thing to do is a waist of time! Go live life a little and play those games you enjoy!

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blaisedinsd

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647. Posted:

Actually they failed to convince me because a valid point has not been brought up of how it's a bad move for the success of the console

Every attempt to do so dropped a bunch of platitude and non sequiturs that I countered with cold hard logic

1. The gamepad has failed to capture attention
2. Most games don't need it
3. They need to cut the price to boost sales.

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648. Posted:

blaisedinsd wrote:

So I guess I addressed all your fears and made my point.

I think it has to do with the fact most people no longer care to discuss with you and once again its has nothing to do with fear but practicality.

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649. Posted:

Without the gamepad the Wii U loses its idenity! Nuff said!

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I'm finding this game way too distracting. I would much rather be playing it right now rather than working!
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650. Posted:

blaisedinsd wrote:

Actually they failed to convince me because a valid point has not been brought up of how it's a bad move for the success of the console

Every attempt to do so dropped a bunch of platitude and non sequiturs that I countered with cold hard logic

1. The gamepad has failed to capture attention
2. Most games don't need it
3. They need to cut the price to boost sales.

yeah your logic is flawless and perfect, you should take over Nintendo because Iwata isn't good enough when put next to you!!!!!!!!
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651. Posted:

blaisedinsd wrote:

Actually they failed to convince me because a valid point has not been brought up of how it's a bad move for the success of the console

Every attempt to do so dropped a bunch of platitude and non sequiturs that I countered with cold hard logic

1. The gamepad has failed to capture attention
2. Most games don't need it
3. They need to cut the price to boost sales.

You don't cut essential features simply for the sake of a quick buck, though. You just don't. And you still won't touch upon what the appeal of the console is supposed to be without it. It's cheap, but it still doesn't have the overall value that other consoles at a similar price point have, so what reason do people have to buy it now that you took out the main differentiator?

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652. Posted:

blaisedinsd wrote:

Actually they failed to convince me because a valid point has not been brought up of how it's a bad move for the success of the console

Every attempt to do so dropped a bunch of platitude and non sequiturs that I countered with cold hard logic

1. The gamepad has failed to capture attention
2. Most games don't need it
3. They need to cut the price to boost sales.

And people like @skywake poked holes and produced counter arguments too your cold hard logic.

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AJ_Lethal

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653. Posted:

You know, it's said the easiest way to lose an argument is by declaring yourself the winner.

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654. Posted:

blaisedinsd wrote:

So I guess I addressed all your fears and made my point.

Everyone has pointed out how bad this idea would be and your counter-point was normally, "that is off topic" or "that doesn't affect what I am talking about."

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blaisedinsd

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655. Posted:

Yeah you just can't do it is not a valid counter argument

The I like the gamepad is not a valid argument.

That's all I have really seen and if you think that pokes holes in the idea of this being something that can boost wii u sales hw and sw then you just need to take off the blinders and put on your critical thinking cap.

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AJ_Lethal

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656. Posted:

blaisedinsd wrote:

Yeah you just can't do it is not a valid counter argument

The I like the gamepad is not a valid argument.

That's all I have really seen and if you think that pokes holes in the idea of this being something that can boost wii u sales hw and sw then you just need to take off the blinders and put on your critical thinking cap.

You still have to tackle the issue of advertising or the lack of a killer app, which you willfully omit/dismiss to the background.

Chopping off the gamepad to an option (and patch/redesign a lot of crap) for a quick buck is not the solution; is just a temporary patch.

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657. Posted:

Without the Game Pad, the Wii U is worthless just like in my opinion the Wii without the Wii Remote/nunchuk or the Game Cube without its controller. The controllers really are the main appeal to me. Playing the games I played with another controller would lose the appeal. If it was optional, nobody would bother to support it, including Nintendo (see the number of games they made for use with Wii Speak... or even the Balance Board... not enough) which means the games would be no fun like a regular console.

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658. Posted:

I don't need my left hand. Ill get rid of it as it's just getting in the way. Makes things more simple! ;-)

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MERG said:

I'm finding this game way too distracting. I would much rather be playing it right now rather than working!
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659. Posted:

Spoony_Tech wrote:

Without the gamepad the Wii U loses its idenity! Nuff said!

Well, currently that identity is "a failed console with a stupid and clumsy battery-draining wannabe controller", so losing that identity would be a plus.

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660. Posted:

I kept trying to find an opening to say somethng in this thread, but any point I would have made has already been said a thousand times. The thought of reworking the entire system to work with the Pro Controller is silly. And making a SKU without the GamePad would be equally ridiculous as future Nintendo titles will surely use this to their advantage as well as indies with unique ideas.

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