With stuff like the Mario Kart 8 DLC, it's looking like Nintendo is aiming to give its most evergreen franchise entries even longer legs. Hopefully continued support like that combined with the slew of new content coming out in 2015 will help the Wii U survive without third party support.
Is not only halo collection... cmon... i am not a xbox fan, but reducing the hype for xbox one to halo collection is a bit limited...
they will got forza horizon 2 soon for example.. (why microsoft and not sony made a game located in the place i used to go on holiday?!!! f**k)... what os gonna get wiiu as similar game... nothing... that's the difference... no matter if each of us like those kinds of games or not... xbox on the long run will outsell wiiu just because it can appeal a larger base of core gamers...
and don't boil my post down to that either. I was simply saying that for this year and in the medium term the Wii U's main play is Smash and the XBOne's answer is the Halo Collectors edition. That's not me deliberately ignoring the other games on the XBOne or saying it's just about Halo collectors edition. Infact when I was writing that post I almost said that the collectors edition for Halo is kinda like Wind Waker HD. And by that I don't mean to say that the Wii U in 2013 was "a Wind Waker HD only machine", I just mean that it sold well but didn't really turn the ship.
As for the potential markeshare. Well damn, as of right now the PS4 is stealing all of the core-gamer marketshare and ontop of that interest in PC gaming is also increasing. I also pointed out that post-Kart the Wii U, which largely serves a different market, is outselling the XBOne. So with that in mind and with Smash just around the corner I think anyone still predicting the XBOne will blow the Wii U out of the water is pretty brave. It really could go either way for EOL sales but the PS4 isn't hurting the Wii U in the same way it's hurting the XBOne and it seems highly unlikely that the XBOne will overtake the Wii U anytime soon.
It doesn't matter anymore at this point. Wii U is not competing with any other device. Just like the 3DS - it's a class of its own. If you like Nintendo stuff you buy the Nintendo machines. It's like if you like Lego you'll buy the Lego - the other brands are not really competing anymore, it's too different. Some people call that "niche" market but it's a pretty large niche market - the Nintendo brands are popular enough on their own. When they're selling Mario karts in McDonald's you know that this is a brand set to remain in place. If it sells more or less than Sony, Microsoft, Apple or Amazon, it doesn't matter. It's not competing with them at all.
Considering the Wii U has now got little to no 3rd party support. It has been out selling the XB1 for the past few weeks I believe. If MS are happy with the amount of sales there getting. Am sure Nintendo will be just that little more happier.
We've seen the baseline move with Mario Kart and it will move even more with Smash. Those two games will continue to move consoles the entire generation. Even with that though, the console isn't necessarily dead yet, but it will likely be Nintendo's lowest selling console ever. It's definitely the Gamecube 2. It's going to have a great attach rate and years down the road, it will be considered by its owners one of Nintendo's best machines, but it will fail to generate the mainstream interest of the competition.
So far, Nintendo has been good about not giving up on it though. They could have just as easily treated it like Sony treats the Vita, but they're not throwing in the towel. If you can't make a great seller, the next best thing you can do is cater to your audience.
As for the XB1, its biggest problem is that anybody looking for 3rd party games is going to get the PS4 instead because it's a better machine, and when you look at 1st party offerings, comparing Microsoft 1st party to Nintendo 1st party is a bad joke.
We've seen the baseline move with Mario Kart and it will move even more with Smash. Those two games will continue to move consoles the entire generation. Even with that though, the console isn't necessarily dead yet, but it will likely be Nintendo's lowest selling console ever. It's definitely the Gamecube 2. It's going to have a great attach rate and years down the road, it will be considered by its owners one of Nintendo's best machines, but it will fail to generate the mainstream interest of the competition.
I don't see how it would ever be considered one of Nintendo's best machines. The Gamecube was both very powerful for it's time, and incredibly affordable.
The Wii U is Nintendo's most expensive system since the SNES, and has a fraction of the power the PS4 and XB1 have. And in exchange for this lack of power is the Gamepad, a peripheral that adds very little to the gameplay experience.
As far as I can tell, the Wii U will be remembered as that 8th gen pay wall to play Nintendo games. As system for which we'd be better off if it didn't exist and Nintendo was 3rd Party.
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We've seen the baseline move with Mario Kart and it will move even more with Smash. Those two games will continue to move consoles the entire generation. Even with that though, the console isn't necessarily dead yet, but it will likely be Nintendo's lowest selling console ever. It's definitely the Gamecube 2. It's going to have a great attach rate and years down the road, it will be considered by its owners one of Nintendo's best machines, but it will fail to generate the mainstream interest of the competition.
I don't see how it would ever be considered one of Nintendo's best machines. The Gamecube was both very powerful for it's time, and incredibly affordable.
The Wii U is Nintendo's most expensive system since the SNES, and has a fraction of the power the PS4 and XB1 have. And in exchange for this lack of power is the Gamepad, a peripheral that adds very little to the gameplay experience.
As far as I can tell, the Wii U will be remembered as that 8th gen pay wall to play Nintendo games. As system for which we'd be better off if it didn't exist and Nintendo was 3rd Party.
Do you own a Wii U?
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Is not only halo collection... cmon... i am not a xbox fan, but reducing the hype for xbox one to halo collection is a bit limited...
they will got forza horizon 2 soon for example.. (why microsoft and not sony made a game located in the place i used to go on holiday?!!! f**k)... what os gonna get wiiu as similar game... nothing... that's the difference... no matter if each of us like those kinds of games or not... xbox on the long run will outsell wiiu just because it can appeal a larger base of core gamers...
and don't boil my post down to that either. I was simply saying that for this year and in the medium term the Wii U's main play is Smash and the XBOne's answer is the Halo Collectors edition. That's not me deliberately ignoring the other games on the XBOne or saying it's just about Halo collectors edition. Infact when I was writing that post I almost said that the collectors edition for Halo is kinda like Wind Waker HD. And by that I don't mean to say that the Wii U in 2013 was "a Wind Waker HD only machine", I just mean that it sold well but didn't really turn the ship.
As for the potential markeshare. Well damn, as of right now the PS4 is stealing all of the core-gamer marketshare and ontop of that interest in PC gaming is also increasing. I also pointed out that post-Kart the Wii U, which largely serves a different market, is outselling the XBOne. So with that in mind and with Smash just around the corner I think anyone still predicting the XBOne will blow the Wii U out of the water is pretty brave. It really could go either way for EOL sales but the PS4 isn't hurting the Wii U in the same way it's hurting the XBOne and it seems highly unlikely that the XBOne will overtake the Wii U anytime soon.
Ok then, sorry for the misunderstanding, and It wasn't my intention to attack you personally.... I agree with your post here above..
I believe ps4 is outselling Xbox because the faulty launch policy Microsoft had, and the fact that almost all actual multiplatforms run better on the Sony machine.... I believe that nowaday, with smart receivers, smart tv, mediacenters and co, sacrifice hardware power to give you all these extra stuff Xbox gives you is not anymore so much appealing than 7 years ago.... Sony saw that and aimed for a "pure gaming" console (of course, I am ranting quite a lot because of lack of basic features such a media player within the firmware...)...
And I particularly agree on your point about PS4 and Xbox 1 being a clone of each other.... excluding some exclusives (soryy for the words...), it as not too much sense having the two consoles and skipping WiiU.... best combinations are, for sure, PS4 and WiiU or Xbox1 and WiiU...
ps: Xbox, while I am writing, got an abysimal launch in japan....at least there WiiU should secure the 2nd place...
We've seen the baseline move with Mario Kart and it will move even more with Smash. Those two games will continue to move consoles the entire generation. Even with that though, the console isn't necessarily dead yet, but it will likely be Nintendo's lowest selling console ever. It's definitely the Gamecube 2. It's going to have a great attach rate and years down the road, it will be considered by its owners one of Nintendo's best machines, but it will fail to generate the mainstream interest of the competition.
I don't see how it would ever be considered one of Nintendo's best machines. The Gamecube was both very powerful for it's time, and incredibly affordable.
The Wii U is Nintendo's most expensive system since the SNES, and has a fraction of the power the PS4 and XB1 have. And in exchange for this lack of power is the Gamepad, a peripheral that adds very little to the gameplay experience.
As far as I can tell, the Wii U will be remembered as that 8th gen pay wall to play Nintendo games. As system for which we'd be better off if it didn't exist and Nintendo was 3rd Party.
Do you own a Wii U?
I've played it multiple times in store demos and with friends, but no, I don't own one, and I'm unsure if I ever will (not interested in the PS4 or XB1 either). I follow the news, and I know what the Gamepad does.
I stand by my point. The Wii U is, more than anything, a paywall for Nintendo games. Not a valuable system in itself that gives you access to great games. It's the same issue with the XB1, though much much worse with the XB1.
I guess technically you are right about saying "a fraction of the power...." Usually people think in terms of 1/8, or even 1/10 when they say fraction. I have both an XBone and a Wii U and while the XBone is sharper, I wouldn't say that it's 10x more powerful or even 2x better in terms of graphics and performance.
We've seen the baseline move with Mario Kart and it will move even more with Smash. Those two games will continue to move consoles the entire generation. Even with that though, the console isn't necessarily dead yet, but it will likely be Nintendo's lowest selling console ever. It's definitely the Gamecube 2. It's going to have a great attach rate and years down the road, it will be considered by its owners one of Nintendo's best machines, but it will fail to generate the mainstream interest of the competition.
I don't see how it would ever be considered one of Nintendo's best machines. The Gamecube was both very powerful for it's time, and incredibly affordable.
The Wii U is Nintendo's most expensive system since the SNES, and has a fraction of the power the PS4 and XB1 have. And in exchange for this lack of power is the Gamepad, a peripheral that adds very little to the gameplay experience.
As far as I can tell, the Wii U will be remembered as that 8th gen pay wall to play Nintendo games. As system for which we'd be better off if it didn't exist and Nintendo was 3rd Party.
I actually just missed the phrase "by its owners". My bad
No worries.
I understand that it's not for everyone, but those who do buy one tend to like it a lot. The high software attach rate is testament to that. The Gamecube was similar with that low hardware, high software sales pattern.
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