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Topic: What do you hate the most about Nintendo's Creators Program?

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DefHalan

I hate the backlash Nintendo has gotten for trying to work with video creators. I hate how people don't fully understand what is actually happening and how "free advertising" isn't actually a good defense.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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LzWinky

Well for one thing, the system is a bit complicated and it seems more like Nintendo being a bit overbearing.

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crimsoncavalier

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I did say with that logic. And then you changed the logic.

What's the logic? Why watch someone do something when you can do it yourself? Because of the skill. I like watching sports because they're good at them. Better than I'll ever be. The entertainment value comes from the magic of watching people perform incredible feats of athleticism. But watching someone do something I can do? I don't see entertainment in that.

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kyuubikid213

I don't hate anything about the Creator's Program. I think it's got the makings to be an okay program if not great.

I really don't see the issue at all. I won't go much further than that because I practically typed up a research paper on the subject about 10 minutes ago in YouTube comments.

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DualWielding

Nintendoes what others don't Region Lock, Games Tied to Hardware, Country Lock on the 3DS, this is just another one in their long line of anti-consumer policies

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iKhan

DualWielding wrote:

Nintendoes what others don't Region Lock, Games Tied to Hardware, Country Lock on the 3DS, this is just another one in their long line of anti-consumer policies

Among the laundry list of anti-consumer practices the Pokemon franchise pulls, you choose THOSE as your big anti-consumer policies? Half of those aren't even anti-consumer as much as they are archaic and dated.

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kyuubikid213

iKhan wrote:

DualWielding wrote:

Nintendoes what others don't Region Lock, Games Tied to Hardware, Country Lock on the 3DS, this is just another one in their long line of anti-consumer policies

Among the laundry list of anti-consumer practices the Pokemon franchise pulls, you choose THOSE as your big anti-consumer policies? Half of those aren't even anti-consumer as much as they are archaic and dated.

The only thing truly wrong with this list is games being tied to the hardware. Region lock isn't inherently bad because of two big reasons.

1. Different regions have different languages. Not everyone can read Japanese, so it's not like importing is a terrible loss for the company or the majority of consumers. As a matter of fact, I've only heard people complain about region lock in recent years.

2. Different cultures have different norms, morals, and such. Some cultures are more flexible with this than others. Region lock helps prevent accidentally offending different people with content that's perfectly normal or widely accepted in another culture.

I understand that region locking isn't 100% perfect and brilliant and wonderful, but it doesn't really hurt anybody. If you really, really, really, really want that RPG that hasn't been localized yet, just buy a different region's console. It can't be any different from buying another XL model or another limited edition model.

And just out of curiosity, what anti-consumer practices in Pokemon?

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Joeynator3000

...Yeah I don't get the Pokemon part. >.>

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LzWinky

DualWielding wrote:

Nintendoes what others don't Region Lock, Games Tied to Hardware, Country Lock on the 3DS, this is just another one in their long line of anti-consumer policies

Most of which don't affect most consumers.

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iKhan

Sanya wrote:

...Yeah I don't get the Pokemon part. >.>

1. There is only one save file per game. That's understandable on the GB with limit file space, not on the 3DS. The only reason that's done is to milk people to buy a second game (no, this isn't remedied by Pokemon Bank. If I want to keep my progress in a game, and start a new one, I can't do that.
2. While the 2 version thing is understandable for the social aspect, the 3rd version is completely unnecessary, and really is just an excuse to get players to buy the same game twice. Also, the versions splitting Legendaries was unnecessary, and my guess is that the point was to get more people to buy both versions
3. Not updating X/Y to be compatible with new Megas, items, etc. Again just trying to get people to buy OR/AS even if they don't want the game, just the compatibility.
4. Event pokemon are literally on-disc DLC that you pay for with your time and/or convenience. The only benefit this grants to Nintendo is that it allows them to promote other games and help out their retail partners.

These along with the fact that the series is basically annualized at this point with pretty minimal changes from game to game make Pokemon the closest Nintendo has ever come to being EA.

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shaneoh

I know I wasting my energy here but:

iKhan wrote:

1. There is only one save file per game. That's understandable on the GB with limit file space, not on the 3DS. The only reason that's done is to milk people to buy a second game (no, this isn't remedied by Pokemon Bank. If I want to keep my progress in a game, and start a new one, I can't do that.

What's the point in keeping your progress if you're just going to start a new game? I've kept thousands of saves over the years, they're not organised and I've never gone back to them. I don't know why I bother, I had no problem deleting my OR save early January after I transferred everything I wanted to the bank.

iKhan wrote:

2. While the 2 version thing is understandable for the social aspect, the 3rd version is completely unnecessary, and really is just an excuse to get players to buy the same game twice. Also, the versions splitting Legendaries was unnecessary, and my guess is that the point was to get more people to buy both versions

They haven't done a third game since platinum, nearly 7 years ago.

iKhan wrote:

3. Not updating X/Y to be compatible with new Megas, items, etc. Again just trying to get people to buy OR/AS even if they don't want the game, just the compatibility.

You really think it is that simple, just code the items and the models in and be done with it? Should Nintendo patch in gen 7 megas, items and mon into X&Y because it would be possible to do on the 3DS? It would end up a clunky mess like TF2 if they continued to patch new features into older games.

iKhan wrote:

4. Event pokemon are literally on-disc DLC that you pay for with your time and/or convenience. The only benefit this grants to Nintendo is that it allows them to promote other games and help out their retail partners.

Then don't spend your time or convenience getting them, it's that simple. The legendaries are ineligible for tournaments and aren't necessary to complete the dex. The rest are obtainable in some way or another. That's the difference between this and on disc dlc; on disc DLC is generally restricted to people who payed for it, these giveaways are shortcuts, saving you time. Frankly obtaining a shiny gengar from a code given away in a store would be less time and effort than trying to breed one myself.

Back on topic: What I hate most about the Creators Program? The way people are whining about it. Get over it.

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iKhan

shaneoh wrote:

I know I wasting my energy here but:

iKhan wrote:

1. There is only one save file per game. That's understandable on the GB with limit file space, not on the 3DS. The only reason that's done is to milk people to buy a second game (no, this isn't remedied by Pokemon Bank. If I want to keep my progress in a game, and start a new one, I can't do that.

What's the point in keeping your progress if you're just going to start a new game? I've kept thousands of saves over the years, they're not organised and I've never gone back to them. I don't know why I bother, I had no problem deleting my OR save early January after I transferred everything I wanted to the bank.

iKhan wrote:

2. While the 2 version thing is understandable for the social aspect, the 3rd version is completely unnecessary, and really is just an excuse to get players to buy the same game twice. Also, the versions splitting Legendaries was unnecessary, and my guess is that the point was to get more people to buy both versions

They haven't done a third game since platinum, nearly 7 years ago.

iKhan wrote:

3. Not updating X/Y to be compatible with new Megas, items, etc. Again just trying to get people to buy OR/AS even if they don't want the game, just the compatibility.

You really think it is that simple, just code the items and the models in and be done with it? Should Nintendo patch in gen 7 megas, items and mon into X&Y because it would be possible to do on the 3DS? It would end up a clunky mess like TF2 if they continued to patch new features into older games.

iKhan wrote:

4. Event pokemon are literally on-disc DLC that you pay for with your time and/or convenience. The only benefit this grants to Nintendo is that it allows them to promote other games and help out their retail partners.

Then don't spend your time or convenience getting them, it's that simple. The legendaries are ineligible for tournaments and aren't necessary to complete the dex. The rest are obtainable in some way or another. That's the difference between this and on disc dlc; on disc DLC is generally restricted to people who payed for it, these giveaways are shortcuts, saving you time. Frankly obtaining a shiny gengar from a code given away in a store would be less time and effort than trying to breed one myself.

Back on topic: What I hate most about the Creators Program? The way people are whining about it. Get over it.

-The point of keeping your save is so that you can go back to a further part of the game, while also having a file where you start new. I'm not completely done with X/Y's postgame, and I want to enjoy the Battle Maison and the availability of the whole world. But I also want to start the adventure fresh. Also don't forget that Pokemon Bank is a paid service unlike multiple save files.

-So they didn't do it in one generation. That doesn't necessarily mean they've stopped it completley. It's entirely possible Pokemon Z comes out this year

-Yes, ORAS and XY use similar engines. It shouldn't be too tough to just patch in the few modifications in terms of compatibility. Obviously they don't need to be accessible in-game, but they should be able to be traded for or battled with. And no, Gen 7 shouldn't be patched because it's a new gen with a crapton of new content and possibly even on a console that's not 3DS compatible.

-Are you serious? You're justification for a Pokemon's On-disc DLC is "then don't get it"? I guess I'll use that now to justify any sleezy practices EA does too. Don't like the end of the story being DLC? Then just don't buy it. My complaint really isn't targeted at the ordinary event pokes. I'm talking about the legendaries, the old hidden ability starters, or other old pokemon not accessible in the main game (this is a much lower complaint because of today's online trading).

The way people justify any real complaint about Pokemon is absolutely ridiculous.

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AceDefective

iKhan wrote:

-Yes, ORAS and XY use similar engines. It shouldn't be too tough to just patch in the few modifications in terms of compatibility. Obviously they don't need to be accessible in-game, but they should be able to be traded for or battled with. And no, Gen 7 shouldn't be patched because it's a new gen with a crapton of new content and possibly even on a console that's not 3DS compatible.

whoa whoa whoa, I am NOT going to touch the rest of this argument but that's the one point I am going to question here.
Similar engine does not mean exact engine, how are we even sure all the pokemon are coded the exact same way between games or even if its just as simple as flipping a switch? I am not saying you're wrong I'm just saying it's harder than you think it its.

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ultraraichu

Pretty much nothing at all. If anything I'm more annoyed about the people who gets paid or is getting a pay cut for this so called "free advertisement" for playing and posting videogames.

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Jonencloud

Not white-listing Smash bros. no smash, no deal

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billyhatcher312

i hate nintendo now because the wii u its a terrinle name but also i hope to god that the new console doesnt have the name wii its not a catchy name anymore also i hate them for hateing free advertisement and that they forced one of my favorite rom sites coolrom.com to take down all nintendo games i wish i could say what i call them nowc

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DefHalan wrote:

I hate the backlash Nintendo has gotten for trying to work with video creators. I hate how people don't fully understand what is actually happening and how "free advertising" isn't actually a good defense.

Lol, once a fanboy...

Anyway, rather leading title, no?

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Joeynator3000

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