61skywakeSun 7th Oct 2012 WhiteKnight wrote: I generally don't like the controls for some games on the iPad but that's mostly because of the games on the iPad that don't work well. The people who don't like controls on games for iPad that work, and they agree that they do, on the grounds that they "don't like multi-touch" are either idiots or trolls. The same is true of people who don't like the controls of Skyward Sword on the grounds that "motion controls suck". I hate wine even though I can perfectly appreciate why other people would love a good glass of red. Meanwhile, I like beer. I guess the elitists that like to pretend the only alcohol worth drinking is wine would get upset by that statement, but that doesn't make me a troll. Just a dude that likes his drinking one way, but isn't so close minded to think that something he doesn't like must therefore be bad. There's a difference between being shown some wine and saying: "I don't like wine but I can see why some might" .....and this "I don't like wine. This one is nice but I don't like wine. You should start making beer because wine sucks" The later is what you were doing and what I was complaining about which I argued made you either an idiot or a troll. The former is what you're now claiming you did which is fine but it wasn't what you did. Happy_Mask wrote: @skywake I've played far more iPad games then I let on (because I'm relatively ashamed of myself for that) and I find your statement incredibly offensive. Just because I dislike the controls for 99% of all iPad games, I am now a troll? Good day to you sir! No, you would be a troll if someone pointed to a game on the iPad and you said "yeah, that one controls well but touch controls suck and they should stop doing it". Edited on Sun 7th October, 2012 @ 05:54 by skywake Some good Aussie musics: King Gizzard, Pond, The Avalanches "Don't stir the pot" is a nice way of saying "they're too dumb to reason with"