DK fares much better in a 2D environment. Give Mario the 3D games, New Super Mario Bros. is becoming repetitive anyway.
That's because you haven't been blown away by a 3D DK game. Once that happens you'll be all for 3D DK games. Sticking to what works now is not a long-term plan and Nintendo knows that, just look at their desire to be innovative, it's also what keeps them interesting. Getting DK in a 3D environment is a progressive idea and I think we should wait on banning it until there is one to actually ban.
As much as I like the 2D platforming IP's, I would welcome another 3D Donkey Kong with open arms. I loved DK64 so much as a kid and I still play is every so often. I would really dig a Wii U 3D Kid Icarus game as well!
also even under the assumption that a DK64 sequel or whatever could be pretty awesome (a sequel to much worse games could technically end up being awesome too, so that's not saying a lot to me), considering how Hal is talking about a 3D Kirby game, that would probably take priority as I sadly can't see Nintendo making more than 2 major 3D platformers at a time.
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Is it really required for a character to be in 3D as well. Seriously why is it that people have the perspective that any famous character that's in 2D should now be in 3D? Look at Kirby. I don't recall any time that we could play a 3D Kirby game (not counting Air Ride since that's more of a spin-off). If they can't figure out how to put the character in 3D, don't make them do it. Its not the end of the character if at all he does end up being only 2D or 3D.
Yes it is. It is absolutely required for a series to advance with technology, and we have gotten to the point where games in 2D has almost completely plateaued. Crystal Shards was a pseudo-3D game with its isometric point of view, and the devs of Kirby have said they would like to put him in 3D. I mean, do you really think Final Fantasy and Zelda should get 2D incarnations on home consoles as AAA games? That's just wasting new expensive hardware.
If they can't figure out how to put a character in 3D, they should get someone else to do it. Just because one team doesn't know how doesn't mean no one does.
I agree that 3D is the next step for 2D games. The only reason we love 3D Mario games is because Nintendo experimented with it on the N64 after years of 2D Mario games. The same step could produce great games as well for other franchises. On the other hand, 2D games as they are right now shouldn't disappear, they're fun to play. 2D and 3D should just co-exist.
They shouldn't disappear, but I don't think they should be AAA retail titles either. It makes more sense for them to dwell in the realm of handheld, flash, and downloadable games.
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Is it really required for a character to be in 3D as well. Seriously why is it that people have the perspective that any famous character that's in 2D should now be in 3D? Look at Kirby. I don't recall any time that we could play a 3D Kirby game (not counting Air Ride since that's more of a spin-off). If they can't figure out how to put the character in 3D, don't make them do it. Its not the end of the character if at all he does end up being only 2D or 3D.
Yes it is. It is absolutely required for a series to advance with technology, and we have gotten to the point where games in 2D has almost completely plateaued. Crystal Shards was a pseudo-3D game with its isometric point of view, and the devs of Kirby have said they would like to put him in 3D. I mean, do you really think Final Fantasy and Zelda should get 2D incarnations on home consoles as AAA games? That's just wasting new expensive hardware.
If they can't figure out how to put a character in 3D, they should get someone else to do it. Just because one team doesn't know how doesn't mean no one does.
I agree that 3D is the next step for 2D games. The only reason we love 3D Mario games is because Nintendo experimented with it on the N64 after years of 2D Mario games. The same step could produce great games as well for other franchises. On the other hand, 2D games as they are right now shouldn't disappear, they're fun to play. 2D and 3D should just co-exist.
They shouldn't disappear, but I don't think they should be AAA retail titles either. It makes more sense for them to dwell in the realm of handheld, flash, and downloadable games.
That wouldn't make business sense since their 2D games sell tremendously, and personally I tend to like them better.
I'm not against a 3D game that is nothing like the disappointing Donkey Kong 64, but I don't see how 3D is inherently superior to 2D games at all. 2D sells better, so there has to be a reason for it. If Retro want to make a 3D DK game or a third 2D game I can't argue with either and would eagerly await to see what they do, but I wouldn't be disappointed if they made a sequel to Tropical Freeze since its an amazing game.
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Is it really required for a character to be in 3D as well. Seriously why is it that people have the perspective that any famous character that's in 2D should now be in 3D? Look at Kirby. I don't recall any time that we could play a 3D Kirby game (not counting Air Ride since that's more of a spin-off). If they can't figure out how to put the character in 3D, don't make them do it. Its not the end of the character if at all he does end up being only 2D or 3D.
Yes it is. It is absolutely required for a series to advance with technology, and we have gotten to the point where games in 2D has almost completely plateaued. Crystal Shards was a pseudo-3D game with its isometric point of view, and the devs of Kirby have said they would like to put him in 3D. I mean, do you really think Final Fantasy and Zelda should get 2D incarnations on home consoles as AAA games? That's just wasting new expensive hardware.
If they can't figure out how to put a character in 3D, they should get someone else to do it. Just because one team doesn't know how doesn't mean no one does.
I agree that 3D is the next step for 2D games. The only reason we love 3D Mario games is because Nintendo experimented with it on the N64 after years of 2D Mario games. The same step could produce great games as well for other franchises. On the other hand, 2D games as they are right now shouldn't disappear, they're fun to play. 2D and 3D should just co-exist.
They shouldn't disappear, but I don't think they should be AAA retail titles either. It makes more sense for them to dwell in the realm of handheld, flash, and downloadable games.
That wouldn't make business sense since their 2D games sell tremendously, and personally I tend to like them better.
I'm not against a 3D game that is nothing like the disappointing Donkey Kong 64, but I don't see how 3D is inherently superior to 2D games at all. 2D sells better, so there has to be a reason for it. If Retro want to make a 3D DK game or a third 2D game I can't argue with either and would eagerly await to see what they do, but I wouldn't be disappointed if they made a sequel to Tropical Freeze since its an amazing game.
In an objective sense, it's not. They tend to be simpler and easy to learn, so they tend to sell better. But I'm not saying 3D is better, I'm saying 3D makes more sense for a AAA budget. The reason consoles advance from generation to generation is because we want to provide better and better technology for games, so to funnel such a great deal of money and resources into a style of game that really peaked in the 4th of 5th generation in terms of taking advantage of hardware doesn't make sense. And even better, there are several platforms that allow simpler 2D games to be created without having to be large retail games. We have stuff like the eShop, App Store, and Handhelds to support those titles.
It's the same reason we don't see anything like the original Space Invaders or Pac-Man anymore. The Shoot-em up had advanced far past it, as have maze games. But that style of gameplay is still fun, so you can access similar games via downloads and flash games.
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I personally don't get all the hate. DK64 was no worse than any other N64 collect-a-thon. It just lasted much longer. Besides, people are missing a possibly obvious point that Rareware won't be making the new 3D DK, Retro would. And aside from whiney fanboys complaining that Retro isn't doing another Metroid, I think it'd be awesome. Besides, collect-a-thons were fun. It's too bad that genre gets ignored, these days...
I personally don't get all the hate. DK64 was no worse than any other N64 collect-a-thon. It just lasted much longer.
It's called overstaying your welcome. Plus, DK64 was weird and bland even for a collect-a-thon, and brought the number of stuff you had to collect up to outrageois levels. Most collect-a-thons had 3 or so major things to collect, with Banjo-Kazooie and Tooie pushing the limits already. Donkey Kong 64 had about 9 or 10 things to collect per character. That is just tedious.
I personally don't get all the hate. DK64 was no worse than any other N64 collect-a-thon. It just lasted much longer. Besides, people are missing a possibly obvious point that Rareware won't be making the new 3D DK, Retro would. And aside from whiney fanboys complaining that Retro isn't doing another Metroid, I think it'd be awesome. Besides, collect-a-thons were fun. It's too bad that genre gets ignored, these days...
In an objective sense, it's not. They tend to be simpler and easy to learn, so they tend to sell better. But I'm not saying 3D is better, I'm saying 3D makes more sense for a AAA budget. The reason consoles advance from generation to generation is because we want to provide better and better technology for games
Yeah, I really don't think that's true. There's a big difference between an indie 2D game and DKCR:TF. The graphics, the animations, the intensity, the 3D angles throughout. I don't think it's a smaller budget than a 3D title or less of an AAA. It's something pretty huge.
I personally don't get all the hate. DK64 was no worse than any other N64 collect-a-thon. It just lasted much longer.
It's called overstaying your welcome. Plus, DK64 was weird and bland even for a collect-a-thon, and brought the number of stuff you had to collect up to outrageois levels. Most collect-a-thons had 3 or so major things to collect, with Banjo-Kazooie and Tooie pushing the limits already. Donkey Kong 64 had about 9 or 10 things to collect per character. That is just tedious.
Yeah, but a lot of those were in intuitive places that you were eventually going to go to with the necessary character, eventually.
Has Lara Croft jumped into 2D after 3D? No. Has Bejeweled been in 3D? no. Has Candy Crush Saga been in 3D? No. And that's because there's no need to jump to 3D at all. 3D games are just as fun as 2D games but I'm just saying that some series are better off in 2D. I want a new 2D Metroid game after playing the first five and I've still yet to play the prime series.
When Pokemon came into 3D, Some things had to change which I didn't like. Why did they change the tones of Pokemon? Also in aesthetic terms, it was just passable. Nothing mind blowing like Dream Team, 3D Land or even Dark Moon.
When you go 2D, there is a variety of art styles that can be possible to do. 3D while it does show that, still feels odd even though its appealing (like Yoshi's new island).
In an objective sense, it's not. They tend to be simpler and easy to learn, so they tend to sell better. But I'm not saying 3D is better, I'm saying 3D makes more sense for a AAA budget. The reason consoles advance from generation to generation is because we want to provide better and better technology for games
Yeah, I really don't think that's true. There's a big difference between an indie 2D game and DKCR:TF. The graphics, the animations, the intensity, the 3D angles throughout. I don't think it's a smaller budget than a 3D title or less of an AAA. It's something pretty huge.
How so? 3D titles need an entire 3D environment to be crafted. That by definition requires more work because there is just more to make. I think Super Paper Mario highlights this pretty well, as what seems to be a beautiful 2D environment becomes completely barren in 3D, and that's a game centered around switching between the two. They generally have a much greater scopes, and much add additional focus on combat. From what I've played of the game, the 3D angles in the barrel sections just feel like unnecessary visual gimmicks, and I don't see why graphics and animation matter in that kind of game at all.
And it doesn't have to be indie. It can be like Pushmo World or NES remix, a 1st party downloadable title.
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Has Lara Croft jumped into 2D after 3D? No. Has Bejeweled been in 3D? no. Has Candy Crush Saga been in 3D? No. And that's because there's no need to jump to 3D at all. 3D games are just as fun as 2D games but I'm just saying that some series are better off in 2D. I want a new 2D Metroid game after playing the first five and I've still yet to play the prime series.
When Pokemon came into 3D, Some things had to change which I didn't like. Why did they change the tones of Pokemon? Also in aesthetic terms, it was just passable. Nothing mind blowing like Dream Team, 3D Land or even Dark Moon.
When you go 2D, there is a variety of art styles that can be possible to do. 3D while it does show that, still feels odd even though its appealing (like Yoshi's new island).
Tomb Raider has also stayed almost exclusive to home consoles, Bejeweled, Candy Crush, and Plants vs. Zombies to flash, handheld and downloadable platforms. No one is expecting a 2D Metroid for Wii U but for 3DS. When we do get a AAA puzzle game, it's the likes of Portal, which is of much greater scope and likely requires many more resources to develop.
Some people didn't like the change in Pokemon because Pokemon's fanbase is made up of several mindless sheep that will take whatever the hell their king and leader Masuda gives them, even if its blatantly anti-consumer, and praise every word he says. (Honestly, whenever I criticize the series for cutting back on challenge and exploration in more recent iterations, I tend to get a billion responses about how I should "go play a different series because Pokemon is only about collecting, battling, and socializing)
I'm not saying either should disappear, but just that they are designed for distinctly different platforms.
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I would welcome a new 3D Donkey Kong in like 2 years. I still got to play Tropical Freeze. So many other Nintendo character's need to make an appearance on the Wii U first.
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