At the end of this year it will have been five years since the last main series home-console Zelda.
4 years.
If it had launched then it'd be the same length of time there was between Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword, one year less than the gap between Wind Waker and Twilight Princess.
Wut? There was only 2 years from Ocarina to Majora, 2 years to Wind Waker, and another 4 to Twilight Princess. Then Skyward Sword took 5, presumably because EAD 3 occupied themselves making the DS games, motion controls, and overhauling SS' art style thanks to Miyamoto preferring it to the TP-like style that they were apparently rolling with.
About standard for a modern Zelda expecially given that this one is also the first HD Zelda.
It makes sense that an HD open world Zelda will take a full 5 year development cycle or more, but you can't deny that Nintendo actively chose to prolong this Zelda release. Open worlds take a lot of time and resources to make. They could make a game in the style of OoT, MM, or TP, that I'm sure everyone would be happy with, in much less time.
But in terms of precident it'd have to launch in 2017 for it to be as a long a gap as there was between A Link to the Past and Ocarina of Time.
That is hardly the normal development time for the series. Things take a while when you're pioneering the 3D era; they're not anymore.
And Metroid, damn, the Gamecube generation got used to the idea that Metroid is a "yearly release" game. Metroid Prime was the 4th Metroid. 4. Since 1986.
Biannual (Hunters and Pinball don't count) and, to be fair, Nintendo chose to have that studio stop making Metroid games.
Speaking to Eurogamer at E3, Metroid Prime series producer Kensuke Tanabe said that due to the amount of content such a game would require, it would probably take several years to develop.
"If we started for Wii U now, it would likely take three years or so. So it would likely now be on Nintendo's NX console"
You have to wonder if something was lost in translation there. It's possible for sure but it seems odd that they'd just come out with that out of the blue given how quiet they've been on what the NX is. I would have assumed that someone that senior would have been far more cautious talking about things that aren't yet announced. Big news if it can be confirmed though.
Wut? There was only 2 years from Ocarina to Majora, 2 years to Wind Waker, and another 4 to Twilight Princess. Then Skyward Sword took 5, presumably because EAD 3 occupied themselves making the DS games, motion controls, and overhauling SS' art style thanks to Miyamoto preferring it to the TP-like style that they were apparently rolling with.
It makes sense that an HD open world Zelda will take a full 5 year development cycle or more, but you can't deny that Nintendo actively chose to prolong this Zelda release. Open worlds take a lot of time and resources to make. They could make a game in the style of OoT, MM, or TP, that I'm sure everyone would be happy with, in much less time.
Yes I meant 4 not five years since Skyward Sword by the end of this year. My mistake. But I don't understand why you're confused about me pointing out that this Zelda is taking about as long as recent Zeldas have taken. Especially given I accidentally counted it as being five years since Skyward Sword. I don't see what you're taking issue with here. If anything it would have been pretty impressive if they had actually managed to get this new Zelda out this year. So thanks for strengthening my point there......
Like others have said, where is the next Mario 64 or Galaxy? It sure as heck wasn't 3D World (and I loved that game, too - but it's really just a 3D Super Mario Brothers string of levels... not an "adventure" game). What about Zelda? Holy cow. It's been so long. What gives? And Metroid? And Star Fox is coming, but in the Wii U's closing hours...
At the end of this year it will have been five years since the last main series home-console Zelda. If it had launched then it'd be the same length of time there was between Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword, one year less than the gap between Wind Waker and Twilight Princess. About standard for a modern Zelda expecially given that this one is also the first HD Zelda. But in terms of precident it'd have to launch in 2017 for it to be as a long a gap as there was between A Link to the Past and Ocarina of Time. And Metroid, damn, the Gamecube generation got used to the idea that Metroid is a "yearly release" game. Metroid Prime was the 4th Metroid. 4. Since 1986.
And complaining about Starfox existing because it's "too late". Damn, complain much do we? Complain that games aren't there because you're missing out. Then complain when games ARE there because it's being released on a "dead platform". Damn guys, make up your mind. Next we'll have people complaining about Mario Maker because it looks like too much fun.
No no no, sorry - you don't get to get away with those false statements. Let's ACTUALLY look at the facts, shall we? Actually, thank you to @Haru17 for pointing out the numerous falsities in your "information."
Also, you've gotta stop, man. Just stop. Stop apologizing for Nintendo. Stop cursing at random people on the internet you don't even know. Just stop. You're probably stressing yourself out way more than you need to. Star Fox for Wii U is too "late." It's too late for the console, it's too late for the fans, it's just too late. Anybody who thinks Nintendo hasn't shifted most of its development (games AND hardware, mind) to the NX just isn't paying attention and refusing to learn from history. It's obvious.
Actually, go look at some new interviews/info being posted on some of the bigger gaming sites. Nintendo developers being QUOTED as saying that "large," adventure-style games (next Prime, Mario Galaxy-esque, whatever) will really only be showing up on the NX, NOT the Wii U. So, again, YES, Star Fox is TOO LATE.
Actually, go look at some new interviews/info being posted on some of the bigger gaming sites. Nintendo developers being QUOTED as saying that "large," adventure-style games (next Prime, Mario Galaxy-esque, whatever) will really only be showing up on the NX, NOT the Wii U. So, again, YES, Star Fox is TOO LATE.
Sources? I've seen the recent Eurogamer quote about Prime and NX, and Miyamoto's old quote that a Mario game is being prepared for the next console. Where is the Mario Galaxy and NX quote? And what other games has been referenced for NX?
No no no, sorry - you don't get to get away with those false statements. Let's ACTUALLY look at the facts, shall we? Actually, thank you to @Haru17 for pointing out the numerous falsities in your "information."
All of which actually made my point stronger, but anyways
Also, you've gotta stop, man. Just stop. Stop apologizing for Nintendo. Stop cursing at random people on the internet you don't even know. Just stop. You're probably stressing yourself out way more than you need to.
I'm not apologizing for Nintendo I'm just being realistic about what we do and don't know. I didn't "curse" at any point and frankly this is a thread about games so why would I be stressed out? It's not "serious business" by any means, it's just entertainment, why would I be stressed about it? The fact of the matter is that Zelda on Wii U is being delayed just as previous Zeldas have. I was wrong with my dates and @Haru17 corrected me by pointing out that even a late 2016 release would be only as long as Skyward Sword.
Star Fox for Wii U is too "late." It's too late for the console, it's too late for the fans, it's just too late. Anybody who thinks Nintendo hasn't shifted most of its development (games AND hardware, mind) to the NX just isn't paying attention and refusing to learn from history. It's obvious. Actually, go look at some new interviews/info being posted on some of the bigger gaming sites. Nintendo developers being QUOTED as saying that "large," adventure-style games (next Prime, Mario Galaxy-esque, whatever) will really only be showing up on the NX, NOT the Wii U. So, again, YES, Star Fox is TOO LATE.
How is it "too late"? You didn't explain you just repeated yourself. As I said people are complaining that games aren't coming out and they're also complaining about games that are. It's really quite ridiculous.
If the NX is replacing the Wii U and launching within a couple of years? I'm fine with that. If that means we're not getting Metroid or any other big titles? Then that's also fine, I've got my money's worth out of the Wii U already. But at this point we're really just guessing what will happen next. We don't know. So there's no need to get worked up when someone thinks something else may be happening.
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I mean, it's not as catastrophic as people are making it out to be, but yeah. I don't understand how someone can not see that the NX is clearly a Wii U succesor.
Maybe because from a sales perspective, life cycle perspective, PR perspective, and just general logic, that makes no sense whatsoever. It was bound to be a weak E3 for Nintendo. We've known this for a while. Stop actung like we haven't. You don't know what Nintendo is planning, and in case people have forgotten, Nintendo doesn't hold the private E3 exhibition in very high regards.
Is it fine? No. I want more stuff this Summer, but Splatoon updates are there to fill that gap, so I'll live. Meanwhile, September, October, November, and December will all have enough new games to outpace my wallet as per usual, and there's no reason to think Nintendo isn't gonna have stuff for next Spring, either.
The doomsayers are the only problem I see. It's almost like you guys WANT the Wii U to die and be replaced.
Actually, go look at some new interviews/info being posted on some of the bigger gaming sites. Nintendo developers being QUOTED as saying that "large," adventure-style games (next Prime, Mario Galaxy-esque, whatever) will really only be showing up on the NX, NOT the Wii U. So, again, YES, Star Fox is TOO LATE.
Sources? I've seen the recent Eurogamer quote about Prime and NX, and Miyamoto's old quote that a Mario game is being prepared for the next console. Where is the Mario Galaxy and NX quote? And what other games has been referenced for NX?
Ummm, no? Twilight Princess looked the exact same on GC / Wii so I don't expect that ZU will have anything other than performance and controller gimmick differences.
Nintendo has been showing off or talking about many of these 2015/2016 titles since E3 2012. It's a joke.
Which of the upcoming 2015/2016 at this year's E3 titles were mentioned at E3 2012?
I may be wrong and I'm sure someone will barge in to correct me if I am. But I believe Pikmin 3 was the last game that was shown by Nintendo at E3 2012 to be released. For quite a few years now Nintendo haven't been announcing stuff more a couple of years from when they launch. It shouldn't be a suprise that they didn't go that far into the future at this year's E3 either. Right now there are still a couple of titles from E3 2013 that aren't out yet (Xenoblade, Yoshi) but I believe most of the 2015/16 stuff is from E3 2014.
I think I am going to need to stop coming to this site for awhile, at least the Forums. This place is toxic and attacking Nintendo for doing exactly what people claimed they wanted. I also see lots of praise for Sony when most of their games won't be out for years, there is also praising of Last Guardian even though it doesn't look like what they promised and the gameplay looks like dull escorte missions. So I am going to take a break, might still give impressions on some of the games I have played but people need to calm down and open their eyes, don't just focus on the 1 presentation, look at Nintendo's entire E3 content.
People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...
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So Sony is at fault for announcing games people are excited for? Lol. It's probably for the best if you come back in 2016, if that's your choice, as Nintendo things will undoubtedly get more interesting then.
Ummm, no? Twilight Princess looked the exact same on GC / Wii so I don't expect that ZU will have anything other than performance and controller gimmick differences.
Ummm, yes? you need to keep in mind that the GCN and Wii were pretty similar in horse power which is why Twilight princess looked identicle on both platforms. They were both locked in the same generation. the NX on the other hand will most likely be a buffed up PS4, so why wouldn't Nintendo give LOZ U a graphical upgrade?
Yes, but what do you mean by 'graphical upgrade?' Witcher 3 gets a 'graphical upgrade' going from PS4 to some $1,000+ PCs, but the style is the same, the assets are all the same. The differences are frame rate, stability, draw distances, texture quality, etc. All of which are 'performance differences.' This is all even assuming that NX is much more powerful than the Wii U. Likely only the draw distance and frame rate stability will be improved, and probably only slightly.
I think I am going to need to stop coming to this site for awhile, at least the Forums. This place is toxic and attacking Nintendo for doing exactly what people claimed they wanted. I also see lots of praise for Sony when most of their games won't be out for years, there is also praising of Last Guardian even though it doesn't look like what they promised and the gameplay looks like dull escorte missions. So I am going to take a break, might still give impressions on some of the games I have played but people need to calm down and open their eyes, don't just focus on the 1 presentation, look at Nintendo's entire E3 content.
To be honest, I don't think anyone asked for Animal Crossing amiibo Party or a co-op Metroid on the 3DS. It seems to me that Nintendo did the exact opposite of what people wanted.
About Sony, it's fine if you don't like their games, but you can't pretend that they didn't have a great show this year. I have no doubt that The Last Guardian will be a great game, just like SotC and Ico. Horizon looked amazing as well, probably my favourite game of E3 this year. On the other hand, I can't get excited for a KickStarter announcement and a CGI trailer of FF7 either. But still, it was a good show.
Nintendo had one underwhelming presentation and some of you peeps are crying and throwing a tantrum? Grow up.
No more new games for the Wii U? Were your eyes close during the presentation or you just have to hate for no reason? There were 3 new games premiered and a handful of what's coming up this year. Just because those games aren't the one you wanted, doesn't mean they're not new games. Some of you guys are unbelievable. The Wii U is still well and alive, stop being a whiny baby.
I dunno, if they made a console as powerful as the PS4 they could probably make Zelda U efficient enough to run 1080p, but I dunno about 60 fps... We'll see.
I think I am going to need to stop coming to this site for awhile, at least the Forums. This place is toxic and attacking Nintendo for doing exactly what people claimed they wanted. I also see lots of praise for Sony when most of their games won't be out for years, there is also praising of Last Guardian even though it doesn't look like what they promised and the gameplay looks like dull escorte missions. So I am going to take a break, might still give impressions on some of the games I have played but people need to calm down and open their eyes, don't just focus on the 1 presentation, look at Nintendo's entire E3 content.
To be honest, I don't think anyone asked for Animal Crossing amiibo Party or a co-op Metroid on the 3DS. It seems to me that Nintendo did the exact opposite of what people wanted.
About Sony, it's fine if you don't like their games, but you can't pretend that they didn't have a great show this year. I have no doubt that The Last Guardian will be a great game, just like SotC and Ico. Horizon looked amazing as well, probably my favourite game of E3 this year. On the other hand, I can't get excited for a KickStarter announcement and a CGI trailer of FF7 either. But still, it was a good show.
People asked for more Amiibo Usage, and got Animal Party. People have been asking for a new Metroid and multiplayer Metroid, we got Federation Force.
I completely understand that I didn't like the Sony Press Conference but even trying to look at it from another perspective there wasn't much that would sell me on a PS4. What about Last Guardian looks good? Having to interact with clunky AI?
People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...
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Actually, go look at some new interviews/info being posted on some of the bigger gaming sites. Nintendo developers being QUOTED as saying that "large," adventure-style games (next Prime, Mario Galaxy-esque, whatever) will really only be showing up on the NX, NOT the Wii U. So, again, YES, Star Fox is TOO LATE.
Sources? I've seen the recent Eurogamer quote about Prime and NX, and Miyamoto's old quote that a Mario game is being prepared for the next console. Where is the Mario Galaxy and NX quote? And what other games has been referenced for NX?
Nintendo has been showing off or talking about many of these 2015/2016 titles since E3 2012. It's a joke.
Which of the upcoming 2015/2016 at this year's E3 titles were mentioned at E3 2012?
Only Zelda was mentioned to be in planning stages at E3 2012
Semantics.
Xenoblade, that Wii U Fire Emblem game, Yarn Yoshi and probably a couple others I am forgetting have all be mentioned or announced as far back as 2013. They are now only coming out.
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