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DawnOverALilly

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Touhou would be good Franchise to go to due to the devotion of the fan base and how crazy there are. If you want to target any fan base, you would go to Touhou, I personally would want to buy like 4 copies of it for myself lol. Even if they made a reference or two I would buy the dam game even if it sucked.

Yes the standard Touhou game does not seem like a full game but you can always make the games into a bundle. But there are the fighting games of Touhou, and compared to other full fighting games the Touhou fighting games had more overall content.

If Nintendo or any other counsel game company had a Touhou game they would make money just from the people that know about it now. Even if you put one of the charters in a game like….. Let’s say Super Smash Brothers. The Touhou fandon will be all over it and most will be buying it if they have the money to spend money. They would even by the system if they don’t have it. I would stop by personal Boycott of Sony stuff if they would come out with a Touhou game and get a PS4.

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I need to play one of those games (no idea where to find em). :O

However, from what I've seen, they look like perfect cheap console titles for some mindless fun.

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Nobodys_Angel wrote:

I need to play one of those games (no idea where to find em). :O

However, from what I've seen, they look like perfect cheap console titles for some mindless fun.

They kinda are, but what makes them truly great is the fandon and all the back-story.

No other Franchise would the fans of it make this, It is ALL fan made just someone like me and you. there are 1,000,000's of fan art, so many fan videos, so many remixes of the music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l6P4eKWFTI&feature=player...

If ya need help in getting them I would be willing to help

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I kinda doubt niche doujinshi games would have much of a sales impact. The Xbox 360 has tons of them, yet that console still has sold less than 2 million in Japan.

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CanisWolfred wrote:

I kinda doubt niche doujinshi games would have much of a sales impact. The Xbox 360 has tons of them, yet that console still has sold less than 2 million in Japan.

That is true, but those games didn't have the fan base that Touhou has.

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DawnOverALilly wrote:

CanisWolfred wrote:

I kinda doubt niche doujinshi games would have much of a sales impact. The Xbox 360 has tons of them, yet that console still has sold less than 2 million in Japan.

That is true, but those games didn't have the fan base that Touhou has.

The day Fans actually pull through is the day pigs fly, I can guarantee you.

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CanisWolfred wrote:

DawnOverALilly wrote:

CanisWolfred wrote:

I kinda doubt niche doujinshi games would have much of a sales impact. The Xbox 360 has tons of them, yet that console still has sold less than 2 million in Japan.

That is true, but those games didn't have the fan base that Touhou has.

The day Fans actually pull through is the day pigs fly, I can guarantee you.

Fans pull though a lot from my point of view from Touhou, you just need to look at how much they have actually done with it, i have been a fan for years now and I have not even seen close to what it all has to offer.

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GuardianKing

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@DawnOverALilly Yeah, I'd love it if you could help get me a copy. :)

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CrazyOtto

9. Posted:

I think ZUN actually said that he doesn't want Touhou to be overly commercialized.

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MrSRArter wrote:

I think ZUN actually said that he doesn't want Touhou to be overly commercialized.

He did, but he still might let someone work with it a little, its a 40/60 chance I think.

Angel first off do ya have WinRawr?

and goin to post some of the stuff the fans made.

first a few of the fan games.

2D Platforming/Action

  • Mystical Chain
  • New Super Marisa Land
  • Katsugeki Kidan 3
  • Sanae & Momie
  • Cirno Climbers
  • Cirno Smash Climbers
  • Endless Marisa
  • Endless Alice CRYSIS
  • I Wanna Be The Shrine Maiden 2
  • I Wanna Be The Shrine Maiden
  • Sanae Challenge! ~ Fusion
  • Boho Youyoumu
  • Han Tamashii Takeshi Geichou
  • Legend of Twilight (Mk_Ultimos47)
  • Gensokyo no Nazo
  • Rush the Hina (Mk_Ultimos47)
  • Rift in a Friendship
  • Remifura Spirits
  • Madanzan Harukaze -Unbelieved Heroes-
  • Sakuya's Counterattack (Hinacle)
  • The Elegant Region Power

2D Shooting Games

  • Weaving the Blue Orient
    -> MediaFire (DarkMarisa)
  • Touhou Koukayaku - The Game
  • Eastern Oceans Blessing Hall ~ Marine Benefit (Sparen)
  • 月下楼情曲 ~ The phantom called Lunasa Prismriver~
  • Fly, Marisa, Fly
  • Moedan

2D Shooting Games (Danmakufu)

  • Concealed the Conclusion (Ace Of Hearts)
  • The Last Comer (Sparen)

2D Shooting Games (Seihou Project)

  • Sh01: Shuusou Gyoku
  • Sh02: Kioh Gyoku (Sparen)
  • Sh03: Banshiryuu
  • Samidare

2.5D/3D Platforming/Action

  • DynaMarisa
  • Youyou Kengeki Musou (Saint)
  • Kinokon - Defend my Sweet Home
  • Shin Touhou Musou

2.5D Shooters

  • Master Burner: Climax
  • Suwako's Jumping Shooting Game (ZanaffarArmor)
  • Suwako-chan Cubic
  • Maihana Ao Makyou ~ Uniting Barrage Action

3D Shooters

  • Embodiment of Scarlet Devil 3D Ver. 1.00f

2.5D/3D Fighting

  • Touhou Sky Arena
  • Gensou Rondo
  • Touhou Kobuto (Mk_Ultimos47)

Strategy/RTS

  • Lotuscraft

RPGs & SRPGs

  • Gensou Maroku ver. 1.12 (Instructions ver. 4)
    ->Gensou Maroku Festival (Expansion)

    -> Part 1 | Part 2

  • Touhou Hack & Slash
    -> Also Mediafire (Captain)
    -> DepositFiles (Ace of Hearts)
  • Fantasy Maiden Wars Scarlet (Saint)
  • Touhoumon (Uses Virtual Boy Advance, and contains 4 Touhoumon titles: World Link, Another World, Marisa's Magic World, and Puppet Play.)
  • Touhou Mother
  • Fushigi no Gensokyo Chronicle
  • Fushigi no Gensokyo 2: Miracle Party (Hinacle)
  • Defiant of Shrine Maiden (Hinacle)
  • The Genius of Sapphieros - Weekend
  • Touhou Monsters Card ~ Phantasmal Summoners (Hinacle)
  • Nightmare of the Sleeping Girl (Hinacle)
  • Youkai Tan Q Roku (Bp3500)
  • Touhou Defense of the Shrines (Mk_Ultimos47)
    -->Latest English Map
    -->AI Implemented Map
  • Cirno Senki – Gensou no Keifu Gaiden
    Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3

Visual Novels

  • EoSD for Busy People
  • EoSD for Busy People Extra [English]
    To save for the above games, hold F1 ~ F12.
  • PCB for Busy People (Hinacle)
  • Flandre's Quest
  • Sengoku Gensokyo (Swfw)
  • Shin Gyakuten Touhou (You must change your "Regional and Language Settings" in Control Panel to Japanese and run the game through Japanese Applocale settings.)
  • Touhou Pocket Wars 2nd (Swfw)
    ->Mega link (Mk_Ultimos47)

Party Games

  • Meddlesome Magician 2
  • Meddlesome Magician (Mk_Ultimos47)

Puzzle/Logic Games

  • MariAri 2
  • Nitroid (Ace of Hearts)
  • I.9 - Intelligent Fool
    • Minus (Saint)
  • Remidoki
    • Minus (Saint)
    • Mediafire (Saint)
  • Beventlaed
  • Satori Komeiji's Mental Education (Swfw)
  • Touhou Nagiri Sen
  • Scarlet Devil's Key (Hinacle)
  • Suwako Pacheris (Hinacle)
  • Koi Gensou Sato ~ World of Unrecognizable Disaster
    Part 1 | Part 2 (Mk_Ultimos47)
  • Touhou Pantama

Other Games

  • Touhou Eisha Roku (Mk_Ultimos47)
  • Touhou Soccer 2 (Moushuuden)
  • Touhou Unreal Mahjong [2nd Revision] (Captain)
  • Touhou Rhythm Carnival! Scarlet
    • Mini-game guide, by Skivin (Recommended)
  • YukkuriDX (Suwako)
  • Touhou Party (Suwako)
  • Gensoukyou Daisensou (Mk_Ultimos47)
  • Sakuya's Crisis 2 - The Linkage of Servant Trial
  • USC ~Ultimate Sunflower Creation~ (Hinacle)
  • The Cloud Shooting (Mk_Ultimos47)

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Marisa- "That's sweet, I only get weekends off."
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Marisa- It's so hot, I'm gonna die here.
Reimu- If you die, I'll feed your corpse to the birds.
Remilia- My, it'd be fine if you'd let me take care of that.
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iwanttodie

11. Posted:

Ark Sin here's a hint:

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DawnOverALilly wrote:

CanisWolfred wrote:

DawnOverALilly wrote:

CanisWolfred wrote:

I kinda doubt niche doujinshi games would have much of a sales impact. The Xbox 360 has tons of them, yet that console still has sold less than 2 million in Japan.

That is true, but those games didn't have the fan base that Touhou has.

The day Fans actually pull through is the day pigs fly, I can guarantee you.

Fans pull though a lot from my point of view from Touhou, you just need to look at how much they have actually done with it, i have been a fan for years now and I have not even seen close to what it all has to offer.

No offense, dude, but that's like saying Furries would make the next Solatorobo anything more than slightly successful. :/ I've seen it a million times - no matter how rabid the fanbase is, it's never enough to make something a mainstream success. If they did bring it to consoles, it'd have to be low-key, maybe a download-only thing, since they'd never make back the money to promote a retail game. And it'd probably just wind up staying in Japan, since Bullethell games don't sell outside of Japan. It certainly wouldn't sell consoles that much.

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If Touhou games were on nintendo consoles, It would be censored heavily.
Embodiment of scarlet DEVIL, anyone?

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CanisWolfred wrote:

DawnOverALilly wrote:

CanisWolfred wrote:

DawnOverALilly wrote:

CanisWolfred wrote:

I kinda doubt niche doujinshi games would have much of a sales impact. The Xbox 360 has tons of them, yet that console still has sold less than 2 million in Japan.

That is true, but those games didn't have the fan base that Touhou has.

The day Fans actually pull through is the day pigs fly, I can guarantee you.

Fans pull though a lot from my point of view from Touhou, you just need to look at how much they have actually done with it, i have been a fan for years now and I have not even seen close to what it all has to offer.

No offense, dude, but that's like saying Furries would make the next Solatorobo anything more than slightly successful. :/ I've seen it a million times - no matter how rabid the fanbase is, it's never enough to make something a mainstream success. If they did bring it to consoles, it'd have to be low-key, maybe a download-only thing, since they'd never make back the money to promote a retail game. And it'd probably just wind up staying in Japan, since Bullethell games don't sell outside of Japan. It certainly wouldn't sell consoles that much.

Touhou is not just bullethell games, its a lot more then just that like Fighting not to mention all the fan made games.. Like if someone slaps Zelda on something people will buy it just because it has Zelda, or like if you slap Halo on something or Mario. Its the same thing with Touhou fans.

The fans are the biggest part of a franchises success.

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Reimu- If you die, I'll feed your corpse to the birds.
Remilia- My, it'd be fine if you'd let me take care of that.
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I think that Dreamcast has already proved that targeting individual niches, like bullet hell fans or fighting games fans, is the shortest way to go bankrupt. Doesn't matter how large a fanbase is, it's still peanuts compared to the numbers you need to keep a modern console in the charts.

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DawnOverALilly

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spizzamarozzi wrote:

I think that Dreamcast has already proved that targeting individual niches, like bullet hell fans or fighting games fans, is the shortest way to go bankrupt. Doesn't matter how large a fanbase is, it's still peanuts compared to the numbers you need to keep a modern console in the charts.

This is just a Single game, not a console.

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CanisWolfred

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DawnOverALilly wrote:

spizzamarozzi wrote:

I think that Dreamcast has already proved that targeting individual niches, like bullet hell fans or fighting games fans, is the shortest way to go bankrupt. Doesn't matter how large a fanbase is, it's still peanuts compared to the numbers you need to keep a modern console in the charts.

This is just a Single game, not a console.

But you're talking like that one game would have a significant impact on longterm console sales.

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18. Posted:

stop, no.

Internet popularity does not mean real life popularity. Ever. Otherwise Phoenix Wright would be selling more than a lot of FPS franchises (if only).

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19. Posted:

Not really. At least, not in the way you imagine it happening. While Touhou does have a dedicated fan-base, one of those reasons is most likely because (from what I can tell) all of the games are free. Also, as kkslider said, internet popularity =/= reality popularity.

(Also, BTW: handheld would be a better fit for Touhou and current Japanese market trends)

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DawnOverALilly

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kkslider5552000 wrote:

stop, no.

Internet popularity does not mean real life popularity. Ever. Otherwise Phoenix Wright would be selling more than a lot of FPS franchises (if only).

They have there own conventions over in Japan the the Fans have to set up, there is one really big one to. Touhou has both Internet and real life popularity.

The only thing that is bad about it I think is that Touhou is not as widely known in western fandom, it's mostly eastern.

I still say that if a touhou game comes out for a consul the fans of Touhou will go out and buy it and if they don't have the system they will get it. Not saying that it will single handedly win the console war this time around, but that it will help a bit just like all the other popular games out there.

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Marisa- "That's sweet, I only get weekends off."
_
Marisa- It's so hot, I'm gonna die here.
Reimu- If you die, I'll feed your corpse to the birds.
Remilia- My, it'd be fine if you'd let me take care of that.
Marisa- That's a definite no.