Topic: Time for new IPs?

So when this thread asks do we want new IPs, the question isn't do we want new kinds of Nintendo games (Kid Icarus Uprising), the question is do we want Nintendo to stop working their existing characters into all their new games, right?

Would Kirby's Epic Yarn have been better off without Kirby's star power? I don't know. I would have been fine with it just starring Prince Fluff, but then maybe the game would have bombed. Personally I'd be fine seeing new games that don't guest star familiar Nintendo characters. But that doesn't mean Nintendo would be wise to retire their old moneymakers. They have a strong heritage that other gaming companies can only try to emulate.

Interesting question. Had Nintendo excluded Kirby, I don't believe I would've given it so much as a glance. I would've seen some generic kiddy yarn game. Granted, Kirby isn't a mature title in the slightest, but as a fan of the series his simple presence somehow caught my attention (whether or not the game was truly a Kirby game). Given that, perhaps Nintendo does benefit by sticking their characters in every game. Mindless fans like me are easy sales for them.

I enjoy seeing old characters having new adventures in new ways. Where would Zelda be if it stayed the same as the first? Where would Metroid be if Retro Studios didn't bring the series into FPS territory. There would have been no Luigi's Mansion, no Kirby Epic Yarn, and no Super Smash Bros.

I don't want any new IPs ever. I just want rehashes.

They need to make new ip's with the same lasting appeal as their older ones. Nintendo were making great ip's on 64 and gc era some reason they forsaken that with the wii

They made Wii Sports. Ok technically Wii Sports is already dated but I think Resort will have a lot more longevity.

Xenoblade. That's all I have to say.

Looking at my 3DS retail games, the new IP's I see are: Steel Diver and Rhythm Thief
Looking at my 3DS eShop games, the new IP's I see are: Freakyforms, Pushmo, Sakura Samurai, Dillon's Rolling Western, Ketzal's Corriders, Denpa Men, Tokyo Crash Mobs, Mutant Mudds, Bomb Monkey, and Gunman Clive!
I think we all know where to look for new IP's
Meanwhile my Wii U only has Nintendo Land and Little Inferno as new IP's, but the Wii U at the moment is just striving to find some more games in general (original or established franchises).
The future looks good for more new IP's though, the 3DS' eShop is a haven for original franchises and ideas both from the big N and from smaller developers, and assuming Nintendo starts supporting the Wii U eShop more I can see the same thing being said about the Wii U in the future. Just between Now and E3 we'll get to enjoy the likes of Kersploosh, Harmoknight, Lego City, and the Wonderful 101!
Also not only do the new 3DS eShop IP's exist, but they appear to be quite successful! Half of those on my list have or are getting sequels! I know I'm looking forward to Dillon's Rolling Western: The Last Ranger, Denpa Men 2 and Mutant Mudds 2(eventually).
PS: Even though I only mentioned 2 new IP's for the Wii U there are a few more available like ZombiU (practically new), Chasing Aurora, and The Cave!

Some new IP's would be great. and i am confident that Nintendo could do it. but at the same time Nintendo has been selling the same characters since the beginning of video games, with success! now who can say that honestly? no one but Nintendo. Mario has been a character since before i was and he is still selling, and selling well. same with Link and Luigi etc. etc. new IP's will come. we'll see some with the Wii U and 3ds. and we've seen a few already. mallo from pushmo and crashmo is a fun character. and i would love to see a Wii U installment.

@k964

i'm not being a "know it all" but zombiu was not original. I was surprised by this as well. it was a remake of ubisofts original game called zombi. just thought i'd say something. I think i read that on this website actually.

Zombi is like, 30 years old. ZombiU is a sorta sequel.

and hopefully we'll see another sorta sequel to zombiu

D'oh! My bad! I just thought the gameplay was different enough but like KKSlider said, we're going by titles. Either way the my point still stands that the majority of New IP's appear on digital platforms.

Let's not forget Dillon from The Rolling Western. He's pretty cool.

I hope I can prove you wrong when they announce the new 3D platforming Wii U Mario and the next 3D Zelda on Wii U (not a remake).

How would Nintendo make a game realistic looking enough like uncharted or infamous? That would be awesome if Nintendo did a game like that but with their own kind of charm.

I agree with the OP. If you look at the Wii without rose tinted glasses, it completely lacked multiplatform 3rd party support, and while the 1st party stuff was generally of a very high quality, there was a lot of iterating on the same old cashcows. I'm not huge into JRPG's, so from the perspective of Platformers & Action-adventure it was very lacking..

I guess with the N64 being my favourite console and looking at what Rare did we were spoilt.. I mean BlastCorps, Goldeneye, Diddy Kong Racing, Banjo-Kazooie/Banjo-Tooie, Jet Force Gemini, Perfect Dark, Conker's Bad Fur Day...in addition to DK 64 from one studio...that's the kind of 1st party support i'd like to see (wishful thinking!). Another 3D platformer in the vein of Banjo Kazooie, and perhaps that Raven Blade game Retro were working on for the GC when it was scrapped.. An action-adventure game that isn't Metroid would be a good start. You get the picture..

I do get the impression they're headed in this direction though. With Retro expanding, and these 'partnerships' between Nintendo and 3rd parties to produce exclusive content (like Bayonetta 2 & Wonderful 101). Nintendo have a lot of money in the bank, and it seems as though they are more aggressively going after exclusive content this time around.

Oh, this again? Really? There were quite a number of excellent 3rd party games for your information and-

oh. Never mind! Carry on.

If I may join in, I believe the main problem is the existing IPs are so ingrained that should a new one come up, people tend to ignore it because it isn't familiar. Like what has been talked about previously with Kirby's Epic Yarn; if the game doesn't have a character(s) that everybody knows, it won't do quite as well as those with already well successful records. That's just the way it is anymore. Not saying that new IPs are a lost cause, just stating why new ideas are struggling in this era of gaming.

Maybe, but Epic Yarn still sold close to 2 million didn't it?? I think Nintendo could afford to take the risk personally. The other thing is, what taking the lead with quality new IP does is to drag gamers away from other existing consoles and gaming devices. You might have a bunch of 'cult' hits like Bayonetta (that are very good games) that only move less than a million copies, but you can compensate for that through gaining hardware sales to people 'won over' to the system by the depth & quality of games on offer. What's to say your new IP won't be enormously successful. Nintendo know what their fans love...how hard can it be???