Topic: They say the Wii U has no games, but they were clearly wrong. #thetimeisnow

Not really. It makes 0 sense for Nintendo to paying for multiplats. Even if there is a large KH fanbase on Nintendo platforms, that should be drawing them to the 7 million or so install base, no? They probably just don't understand the hardware.

Also, they'd be better off just getting GCN VC up and running, rather than remakes.

I wouldn't even worry about it, dude.

Do you think it would be smart for Nintendo to pay for "timed exclusive" 3rd Party games? That way there is an actual bonus for Nintendo and they get 3rd Party games or do you think that would be a waste? I know timed exclusives don't matter to me but they seem to matter to a lot of people.

I actually think it might be a good idea depending on the game.

But I do think at this point Nintendo should prioritize anything exclusive they can find.

Nintendo shouldn't start paying for timed exclusive, that is a waste of many. I can understand paying for a real exclusive, but timed is just screweing people over imo

@DefHalen
It depends. KH3 probably hasn't been a cheap project. They were supposedly working on it in like 2009. Even FFXV was announced in like 2006 or something, but nothing ever happened.

Say if it has cost them a regular amount of money, then it would be far easier to say whether Nintendo can even pay for certain exclusiveness from SE. Like if they got a Nintendo themed area into the game, paid for it, provided free publishing on that specific title, paid for a certain amount of copies up front, then made it timed for like 3-6 months. It would be hard as hell for anyone to resist exclusive content, timed exclusiveness, and the price point for Wii U is $100 cheaper than an Xbox One or PS4, so anyone wanting a console for that specific game would have to try pretty hard to ignore a deal like that, unless they were specifically Xbox or PS fans, but for people who do plan on buying a second console, they might buy the Wii U first, instead of their first choice console. I hope all this makes sense. So yes, I think timed exclusiveness can effect someone's console buying decisions, but they had to have seriously considered Wii U to be in their entertainment center to begin with and the deal has to be worthwhile for everyone involved. It's just a matter of making the jump sooner, or buying a Wii U first, instead of an Xbox One or PS4. SE gets alot paid for by Nintendo, Nintendo gets consoles sold. Everyone wins in that case, at least I would think.

If Xbox One would have came out first, I would have bought that first. That's just how I do stuff.

Hey man (or kid?), give yourself and ourselves a break... obviously being in this forum isn't healty for you... noone is ranting randomly and noone hate Nintendo (we all like our console if we are here, I guess).

I love Nintendo games AND I love what you call gritty blablablah games too.... and don't start with the doctrine that "Nintendo is far superior because makes games other don't even think about". We all know this, and to be honest, the first ones that pushed about WiiU as a console both for N games and 3rd party games have been Iwata-san and Reggie.... and me, and other ones seems by reading the forum, believed so.... I thought this will be the console who satisfy me in both having a run on Mario and Zelda and getting "laid" with some warfare game or simulations or whatsoever.... after two years, we get to the point where third parties are long gone and we got 3 superMario (4 with Mario maker)... not even a Galaxy 3 on the horizon, Zelda U somewhere far in 2015... sorry if we would like to have more of "new" games, sorry if we get amazed by "realistic" graphic and we don't only like to "escape from reality" but we also would like to "live another, plausible" one...

ps: learn how to behave, and respect other people opinion sometimes, it could help in your life...

I believe they should invest in some western studio, to get some "third party exclusive" more appealing for US and Europe market.... Bayonetta and Devil Third were two good steps in that direction, but is not enough....

I agree with you.... If we consider the nowadays market, it seems clear that, with these numbers, Nintendo games only are not sufficient to attract enough people to the console... and with the same numbers, keep repeating them for the next console (or two), will lead Nintendo to failure.... which means in the best scenario Nintendo becoming like SEGA, in the worst forgetting about Nintendo try to innovate the gaming world....

This is why people who keeps saying "We just care for Nintendo games, if you don't like it get a PS4" are wrong... they should care a little bit more about the whole world, not only their tiny mushrooms kingdom, if they really love Nintendo...

I agree that Nintendo should do everything it can to support 3rd parties and get multiplatform games like Minecraft on their platforms... except writing a cheque. Get in touch with the developers, give technical advice, loan dev kits, yes please. But don't jump on the money hats bandwagon.

Yeah, even if they did get Minecraft on the Wii U, I doubt it would make any difference to them. Nintendo's best option at this point is to ride the storm with the Wii U and design their next system with all the mistakes in mind.

I think the whole industry is heading towards a crash. Projects are becoming bloated. Fans are becoming negatively bonkers about every decision. So think about this, how much money would Nintendo have to spend to get a project on their Wii U...only for fans to bash the decision and treat it like the end of the world?

There's a reason Nintendo doesn't bend over for 3rd party support. Every time they spend a million on 3rd party support (whether it be distribution, development or other costs), Sony will offer 2 million. Every time Sony offer 2, Microsoft will offer 4.

With the Wii U, they held conferences, gave free dev kits away and massively lowered the barrier for entry to work on Wii U and they were literally laughed at. Most websites were very quick to publish how empty their seminars were or how disorganised they were when it came to helping western devs out. We got almost a year of articles telling us about Wii U dev kits that had sat collecting dust since before launch. The only thing they could have done is outright paid developers to make the games which is what they're already doing. There's many factors at play to make this situation happen. Nintendo are far from perfect and there are definitely departments that need new leaders but there's not much you can do when the gaming media go against you for no real reason and go out of their way to portray you as inept. All they can do is answer with better games than their rivals and I think they are doing that.

I really admire Nintendo for not paying for stuff, and trying to make it as easy as possible for developers, but since that's failed, what is their next decision? These 3rd party exclusives aren't going to do it. Sorry to say, but if Nintendo want to stay relevant and be taken seriously, they'll need to throw alot of that money around.

Yes, let's talk about the press. Slow day? Bash Nintendo.

At first I didn't mind, because Nintendo did screw up with the Wii U. Fast forward several months later, Wii U still gets bashed because nothing else significant happened. They kept beating the dead horse and Wii U's reputation got ruined even more by this. Some sites are turning around and posting positive things about it, but I think the damage is done. Nintendo screwed up, and the press threw rocks at them and kicked sand in their face repeatedly.

@Operative: They're not going to benefit from it. The industry is too busy being obsessed with power and graphics, and Nintendo really can't offer either one.

Exactly. Nintendo knows that entering a bidding war they cannot win would do them no good. Nintendo currently has a large amount of money, but it doesn't grow on trees. And in this business, no one has more money than Microsoft.
I think Nintendo fears big acquisitions for the same reason. Let's imagine Nintendo bought Capcom, for an instance. The next day Sony would buy Square-Enix and Microsoft would buy Konami or whatever. An all-out nuclear war on videogame land triggered by Nintendo's smoking gun. Forget multiplatform games, everything turns exclusive to one brand or another.

Yeah I think the press is one major problem when it comes to WiiU sales.
I've seen many people blame Nintendo for "failing to create hype" or "failing to make their products attractive" but there's only so much a company can do on its own if the press doesn't cooperate. How many WiiU related news make the front page of the major generic videogame websites?
Do non-WiiU owners know that Nintendo has these things called Nintendo Directs where they preview their games in depth? Nintendo Directs are awesome, but if they stay within the inner circle of people who already own a WiiU they are useless.

Not to say that there aren't journalists who are trying to say positive things, but the message they convey is always so twisted! Some of them sound like they are gamblers enjoying betting on dead horses. Was reading an article the other day and the guy said "I bought a WiiU after E3. My colleagues asked me why". So instead of writing plain and simple "I got a WiiU because the upcoming games look brilliant" I read "I got a WiiU cos I'm a lunatic and all my friends were shocked".

is it so uncool to own a WiiU that journalists have to sound like they are risking their own life recommending one?

Well they pay Bayo 2 to even get it out so nobody expected thst to be cheap, HW I'm not sure. But the thing is Nintendo gets the burn launching with a lazy swagger while in fact they did what people wanted out of them. The launched with a few Nintendo titles and loads of third party but that quickly bit them in the back as most games that came out where gimped versions or ports of old games. Ofcourse both parties hate each other now.

@gage_wolf Please tell me you're being sarcastic. If not, I'm afraid you´re in dire need of some new friends.

At the same time, they have to calculate the return on such an investment. I think at this point the Wii U really isn't worth the risk. If Nintendo kept pumping money into projects they don't profit from, then they dug themselves into a big hole.

The Wii U HAD games. >_>

The Wii U has games. Old ones and recent ones. I guess some people have way too much time on their hands and beat a game every week or something.