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GeePers

21. Posted:

This is getting old, xBASSxMONSTAx. All your posts are just negative crap and whining. Either get a WiiU or go away.

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xBASSxMONSTAx

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Yea, just remember......lately, no matter what innovation comes out, there is somebody there to dog it, and give it a poor review. Most of the time I think these people already have their mind made up. They likely don't even have the console for more than an hour or two. Get your advice from people who have the console, and whether to cancel or not. After a week I can say it integrates nicely into our entertainment center. It is bug free no freezes or glitches. Its fast and hooks up seemlessly into out internet network. Graphics are awesome HD on our plasma, and nice and crisp on the gamepad. The gamepad is light, well laid out, complete, and totally innovative. The OS is very well laid out and choked full of fun features like miiverse, eshop, forums, etc. My only gripe is the slight wait inbetween some screens, but I am sure firmware updates will shorten this.

You make me want to buy it again. ;)

Knowing me, I will probably go out on Friday (launch day) and end up buying one in store.

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Oh god maybe not, just read another depressing article that got released an hour ago - Wii U: Pong creator Nolan Bushnell baffled by Nintendo's new machine, predicts its failure: http://hexus.net/gaming/news/industry/48549-atari-veteran-bus...

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xBASSxMONSTAx wrote:

Nitendnut wrote:

Yea, just remember......lately, no matter what innovation comes out, there is somebody there to dog it, and give it a poor review. Most of the time I think these people already have their mind made up. They likely don't even have the console for more than an hour or two. Get your advice from people who have the console, and whether to cancel or not. After a week I can say it integrates nicely into our entertainment center. It is bug free no freezes or glitches. Its fast and hooks up seemlessly into out internet network. Graphics are awesome HD on our plasma, and nice and crisp on the gamepad. The gamepad is light, well laid out, complete, and totally innovative. The OS is very well laid out and choked full of fun features like miiverse, eshop, forums, etc. My only gripe is the slight wait inbetween some screens, but I am sure firmware updates will shorten this.

You make me want to buy it again. ;)

Knowing me, I will probably go out on Friday (launch day) and end up buying one in store.

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Just read another depressing article that got released an hour ago: http://hexus.net/gaming/news/industry/48549-atari-veteran-bus...

Ok. The thread is now redundant. Let's go home.

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Schprocket

24. Posted:

Well, time to hijack Eeyore's thread ...

@MadAussieBloke - I hope you're in WA and you get BLOPS2 - I make for a great diversionary bullet-magnet - just ask my PS3 mates :)

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25. Posted:

xBASSxMONSTAx wrote:

Nitendnut wrote:

Yea, just remember......lately, no matter what innovation comes out, there is somebody there to dog it, and give it a poor review. Most of the time I think these people already have their mind made up. They likely don't even have the console for more than an hour or two. Get your advice from people who have the console, and whether to cancel or not. After a week I can say it integrates nicely into our entertainment center. It is bug free no freezes or glitches. Its fast and hooks up seemlessly into out internet network. Graphics are awesome HD on our plasma, and nice and crisp on the gamepad. The gamepad is light, well laid out, complete, and totally innovative. The OS is very well laid out and choked full of fun features like miiverse, eshop, forums, etc. My only gripe is the slight wait inbetween some screens, but I am sure firmware updates will shorten this.

You make me want to buy it again. ;)

Knowing me, I will probably go out on Friday (launch day) and end up buying one in store.

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Oh god maybe not, just read another depressing article that got released an hour ago - Wii U: Pong creator Nolan Bushnell baffled by Nintendo's new machine, predicts its failure: http://hexus.net/gaming/news/industry/48549-atari-veteran-bus...

You seem to get easily effected by posetive/negative comments about he Wii U.

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[quote=Xilef][quote=xBASSxMONSTAx]

Nitendnut wrote:

You seem to get easily effected by posetive/negative comments about he Wii U.

Hell yeah, is it worth investing nearly all my savings in a new console that's going to possibly fail according to every Tom, dick and Harry? I already made the mistake of buying Sony's bloody PS Vita for around £250 at launch and look how that turned out, Hardly any 3rd party support what so ever. I don't want to make that mistake again.

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27. Posted:

Xilef wrote:

You seem to get easily effected by posetive/negative comments about he Wii U.

Why create your own opinion on something when you can just take others? Seems like a lot of unnecessary work ;)

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skywake

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If you look around on the internet you can find a negative post about anything and the same can't be said of the positive. Being swayed so easily by that sort of content would mean that it would be impossible for you to ever get anything. What you need to do is take all posts about everything with a grain of salt and rationally weigh the negative sentiment found online against your expectations.

So the question is "should I get a Wii U at launch".... and the answer is... do you like the look of this? yes/no

if yes do you think it's worth getting it for that now and Zelda/Mario/Metroid later? yes/no
If still yes... get it, the success or failure of the console in the long term means nothing
if your answer to either question is no then either don't get it or consider your other options first. Simple.

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ClockworkMario

29. Posted:

GeePers wrote:

This is getting old, xBASSxMONSTAx. All your posts are just negative crap and whining. Either get a WiiU or go away.

No need to bash the man, Nintendo isn't above critique.

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Schprocket

30. Posted:

Mistakes are what you learn from.

Learning makes you wise

Just don't substitute fear for wisdom.

I can't believe you're going through all of this angst because of the Vita - an angst which I empathise with a little... flip back a page and read my Wii and PS3 comments... how many Wii Us have been sold vs the Vita in the same time-frame, how many games at launch - you really don't get it just on your own logic.

You want to find failure in the Wii U to justify making 'the right decision' about the non-purchase of a Wii U in order for you to compensate for your 'loss' on the Vita.

Man, that is screwed.
If you are genuine, Monsta, you really have a blinding fear of failure that you need professional help with...

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skywake

31. Posted:

On the article that started this again. They make a point of saying that "it only allows a device to draw a maximum of 500 mA of current per port" as one of its shortcomings. Which is interesting because that's not a limitation of the Wii U but is instead the USB2 spec.

To make it simpler 500mA on 5V is 2.5W. I have three 2.5" drives on my desk, the ratings on their labels range from 2.7W to 4W and they all work perfectly fine when drawing power from standard USB ports. I've never had a problem with them so there's a good chance that they actually draw much less than the label suggests. I also have a 3.5" drive which instead says it needs ~17W. Looking at benchmarks however I see that 2.5" drives draw anything from 2W to 3.5W under load and about 13W for 3.5" drives. This seems to confirm my anecdotal evidence.

So to say the Wii U has HDD compatibility problems is a bit of a stretch I think. If it's meeting the USB2 spec then there's a very good chance that the Wii U will work just as well as any computer in terms of HDD compatibility. If the drive draws something closer to 4W then you can supliment the power with a second USB port and it's safe, if it's a 3.5" drive it was drawing well above the USB spec and you were plugging it into the wall anyway. There could be problems especially if you get higher RPM drives but there aren't many high RPM portable HDDs that you connect to your computer via USB. The fact that we are yet to hear stories of people saying "I tried this HDD and it doesn't work" says it all I think.

So consider that point completely debunked I think.

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GameLord08

32. Posted:

What happened to the simple days where you bought something based on your own opinion on it?

I've seen proper criticism before and had my part in it - this is certainly not it. A lot of these "critique" articles you put up, @xBASSxMONSTAx, are pieces of bunkum for the most part. While this is entirely your prerogative, if all of this in particular is what swayed you to cancel your Wii U pre-order, then with all due respect, I'm quite happy that someone else is going to be able to buy that Wii U and appreciate it for what they can see it as.

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Knux

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Schprocket wrote:

I seem to recall that you and Knux seemed to have a 'thing' about digging up all the negative crap and taking it as gospel.

Did someone call me? ;)

No, but I think the simple fact that the Wii U is even suggested to have a slower CPU compared to five to six year old consoles is pretty pathetic if you ask me. Not that I honestly give an eff, because in the end I'll buy a Wii U when there's a game or enough games to make me want to buy the console. There are only like two to three games on the Wii U that I'm even interested in, and they're still not enough to make me buy the console. Still, I don't consider the Wii U a true ''next-gen'' console, since there's nothing really ''next-gen'' or ''new'' about it.

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No, but I think the simple fact that the Wii U is even suggested to have a slower CPU compared to five year old consoles is pretty pathetic if you ask me.

No offense to you in particular bro, but I think the simple fact that many seem to be forgetting the GPGPU's existence in relation to this is what's pretty pathetic, if you ask me. You can't get away with telling half of a tale.

I'm truly not one to be decided on something based on hardware, and there are quite a few reasons why I think it's silly to do so. Conversely, having analysed everything the Wii U has under its hood, I'd say that Nintendo believes in building consoles with only as much power as is needed - not necessarily upgrading it all for the sake of determining it as "next-gen hardware".

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GameLord08 wrote:

Knux wrote:

No, but I think the simple fact that the Wii U is even suggested to have a slower CPU compared to five year old consoles is pretty pathetic if you ask me.

No offense bro, but I think the simple fact that many seem to be forgetting the GPGPU's existence is pretty pathetic, if you ask me. You can't get away with telling half of a tale.

I'm truly not one to be decided on something based on hardware, and there are quite a few reasons why I think it's silly to do so. Conversely, having analysed everything the Wii U has under its hood, I'd say that Nintendo believes in building consoles with only as much power as is needed - not necessarily upgrading it all for the sake of determining it as "next-gen hardware".

I know that, but the Wii U should be more advanced in all aspects, not just in some areas. Also, the Wii U really offers nothing ''new'' unlike when the Wii did. HD graphics? We had those for five to six years. Screen on the controller? The Gamecube and GBA already did this together, also you're pretty much bringing the DS to a home console. It's cool, but nothing new. All that matters in the end are the games. I know that Nintendo isn't truly trying to make a console with mind-blowing graphics, but I feel like it should at least be as advanced as the PS3 and 360 in terms of power. But if it does have a slower CPU, then that's sad if you ask me. Like I said, it doesn't personally matter to me. But I don't see anything ''new'' about the Wii U. Nintendo basically released a console that they probably should have released five to six years ago.

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WesCash

36. Posted:

I kind of have to agree with @Knux about the CPU thing. That is rather disappointing, regardless of all of the other good things that the WiiU has to offer.

I wouldn't say that the WiiU offers nothing new though. HD is new for Nintendo. The gamepad is a new concept. No other console has had a tablet controller.
What on earth are Sony or Microsoft going to bring to the table in the next generation that will be "new"? Probably nothing.

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GameLord08

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@Knux: Maybe, but it's not very helpful to decide to do so. Manufacturing costs, development costs, market pricing etc. It's best to just stick with what we know is sustainable and useful for the industry in all areas right now, not pushing something entirely new and advanced that'll prove to be an uncertified risk. Nobody can afford that, and that's something the PS3 and Xbox 360 effectively demonstrated for us at the start of this generation - only it'd be a lot worse this time.

To me, the Wii U provides something that's intuitive and cost-efficient, not necessarily new (though I find that lies debatably on imagination). That's the only way we're going to be able to get developers loading on to a new console. That's why it only advances in some crucial aspects of hardware, not all. It's keeping it in the green zone.

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steve3110

38. Posted:

i also bought the ps vita on launch day,but have since sold it,the main thing i like about the wii u is it does everything nintendo said it can,coz the bloody vita sure as hell didnt ,play your ps3 games on the go!!! yeah rite,i cant wait till the 30th so hyped for my wii u.

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True_Hero

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Why does everyone forget/ignore the GPGPU? Here's an article I found about it.

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40. Posted:

@ xBASSxMONSTAx :
since you speak in '£', i suppose you are living in uk, so you have chance to be able to try the wiiu in some shops :
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/11/wii_u_demo_pods_bein...
you dont even have to wait until next friday to test it by a friend :)

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