Topic: Pokken Tournament - OT

So now they're copying two terrible fighters... by Arceus, this better stay in arcades.

Un-huh.... Aren't excited for this game? Throwing shots at Tekken and Pokken Fighters? Trying to push down somebody's actual hype for this game? I got a suggestion... Get out of this thread.

Oh, I wasn't aware this was a positive-only thread. Sorry, but that's not how a forum works. Especially not when it's about an announcement discussion. Besides, I'm not pushing down anyone's hype, and if somebody feels like I did, that's entirely their problem.

Releasing a mainline game on a home console is stupid. It would cost way more to make, it would be lucky to sell half as well, and people in the west would stop buying the handheld versions. Also, it doesn't need to be on a home console to have online features because XY and ORAS already freaking have them (including voice chat). And why would you want to explore in a group? There is literally only one place in the whole franchise that wouldn't be mind-numbingly boring to explore in a group and that would be Sinnoh's underground. It wouldn't "save" the Wii U either; no matter how many great games it adds to its library, the Wii U will be lucky to reach Gamecube numbers.

I think it was your tone as appose to your opinion. Your tone being because you don't like a game you have never played then all the people in the west who want to shouldn't get to play it. "This better stay in the arcades"

@Kaze_Memaryu Oh yeah, huh? Hm... what's a game you're excited for? Splatoon? I'm gonna go the Splatoon forum and spread some negativity!!! Who does that sound like? C'mon, tell me. There's a difference between negativity and having genuine worries and concerns about a game.

@Kaze_Memaryu .... Hahahaha I hope you know I'm just playing. Just goofing around.

@faint As a fighting game enthusiast, this game makes me cringe (way too much spam, and the trailers already emphasize it). As such, I'm expressing selfish hopes out of sheer disappointment (though I should've known better, it's Namco-We-Don't-Know-Jack-About-Balancing-Bandai), since the way the gameplay is currently presented, it's just a mess. Nice to look at, but still a mess.

@Blast Well, nobody's gonna stop you. If you don't like Splatoon, it's up to you whether you want to express that in its topic or not.

@Kaze_Memaryu Well i'm just going to tell you right now,if you're looking for competitive gameplay in this game.Then you better look elsewhere,cause i think this is for casuals or for just basic pokemon fans. And i'm not saying it won't be fun either,cause it looks very fun.

(In response to developing fighting games for arcades)
Harada:
“Pokémon definitely has a family-oriented image, but in addition to how we decided on developing [Pokkén] as a competitive game with depth, we must also be prepared to face such severe conditions."
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/10/17/pokkn-tournament-develop...

Bandai Namco has been fine with balancing lately too. Tekken Tag 2 was great and Smash is the most balanced it's been, Diddy's exaggerated HOO-HAH aside (which is probably getting nerfed Wednesday anyways). If anything it'll probably be similar to the main Pokemon games where the main game is dirt easy, but competitive play gets pretty deep. We just got to wait and play. Besides, like you said it will still be a fun game, competitive scene or not.

Sing it!

Anyway, I'm not huge into fighting games, but I'm excited to finally get a decent action-based pokemon game. I wonder if it won't be announced for Wii U release for fall 2015 / spring 2016 at E3.

I'm sorry, but no. Every single Tekken game has extremely easy infinite loops, and it took me just five minutes of trying to find one in the latest game. Smash also has some balancing issues that are obvious, yet nobody does anything to set it right. And the same goes for every "fighter" they develop: be it Dragon Ball, Naruto, One Piece, or anything - they always mess up the balancing.
Besides, beginner-friendly fun and competitive balance don't go against each other, yet NamcoBandai seems to push that to mask their laziness. It's simply inexcusable for a fighter to lack balance, regardless of the intended audience, because even kids eventually get frustrated by everyone doing the same cheap-shots over and over again, to the point where many players' favourite Pokés get curb-stomped in the most monotonous and unfair fashion.

Nico Nico is doing a stream on April 26th to reveal new characters and they've confirmed one will be the winner of a poll they recently hosted on Twitter. I have no idea how to link to individual articles on serebii, I don't think it's possible, but the news is on their site.

Anyone know about the poll? I hadn't heard about it. I dislike it honestly, just because I know Heracross, Hawlucha, or Hitmontop didn't win but Charizard or Sceptile probably did. >.>

If it doesn't say custom Wii U based Arcade Board I am not interested.

How we end up with well balanced fighting games is when they are tested and revised in Arcades beforehand.

Are you talking about the controller? Have you seen Pokken's arcade controller?

Eh, won't be able to watch the steam live. You need a NicoNico account and I just don't want to bother with that right now.

I'm just going to guess Arcanine will be one of the revealed characters.

Awesome! Definitely ok with Gengar. Extra cool since he was in that fan made Pokemon fighting game too.

EDIT: AZProjectMelee seems to have started a Pokken Tournament subreddit to encourage discussion on the game. Pretty big to see a smash scene giving this kind of push to Pokken already! Makes me really happy. Link to the subreddit:

Yes, Gengar! An excellent choice and I'm glad they added a good Ghost-type. Can't wait to see who's next.

Boy, the people in that stream sure are excited about Gengar. Gen 1 confirmed best Pokemon.

looks meh . . . I just want a proper 3D pokemon adventure on Wii U, all these spin-offs and half baked annual releases have dragged on for a decade too long. We need to stop hyping up games nobody wants and vote in numbers by not purchasing them. If a game like Pokken Fighters, which nobody wanted, gets announced and released before a game everyone wants like a real console pokemon game, then we should boycott it.

Pokemon has too many fanboys that buy every iteration, they're ruining the natural progress of the series by purchasing garbage like pokemon rumble, the other sucky spin-offs and all the lazy rehashes.