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DaveGX

81. Posted:

I think more or less Luigi's case is a spin-off and doesn't not necesserily count as a "Mario" game (He is Mario's borther after all, so he's cannon to that universe), and not for the same reasons I recently mentioned; In this case it's like if you were to branch off in that universe and revolve a plot around some other character of such....Super Princess Peach would be an example, or Bowser's Inside Story. You certainly couldn't say Luigi is a Zelda game or any of those.

Though while on the subject it would be nice to see less focus on mainly "Mario" in cannon games and revamp the series as it was truely meant to be, Super Mario Bros, and focus Luigi back into the core. I still feel the best way to bring that focus back, to "bros" at the evry least, would be with dual gameplay soa s you're not just changing which character is available becuase then the focus is still on Mario. And let's be honest, had it not been for Mario Bros in the 1st place, if the shoe were on the other foot and Mario "Bros" never existed (Like plain Mario, or Super Mario, 2, 3, etc as if Luigi was either non existant or less important of the matter), can anyone here honestly say they would stilll had the same interest in the franchiseas it exists today?

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82. Posted:

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I'm not comparing anything but the number of releases each franchise sees per year. Nintendo isn't a completely different company from Nintendo. Nintendo develops Super Mario and Mario Kart. Nintendo also helps second parties and third parties develop Mario games to its liking.

Stop denying the obvious.

Dude, I only mentioned Guitar Hero and Skylanders because Activision publishes both them and CoD. The reason I brought them up was as a point of comparison because that's pretty much all that all of these various games with Mario in them have in common. A publisher and a coat of paint.

So let's make this clearer. When you talk about CoD games we're talking about the same genre, same style, within a couple of devs but usually the same guys and the same publishers with apparently a few exceptions. Pretty much the same as we see with Guitar Hero or Madden or Pokemon and so on. With the main Mario games it's the same deal again. Same devs with maybe a few exceptions and slightly different teams, same publisher, same genre, similar style but largely the same. You can easily stand up and say "this is a series" the same as you can with CoD.

What you're trying to do is lump every game with Mario in it together. Despite the games being from completely different genres with everything from platformers to RPGs to puzzle, party and sports games. With different styles with everything from Dr Mario to Paper Mario to the flat Mario Party or the shiny Galaxy games. With developers from Nintendo themselves to second party devs like HAL and Camelot all the way to Sega and Square Enix. Apples and Oranges is all I'm saying.

You could have just as easily said "people complain about there being so many Madden games but Rockstar have put out a new sandbox game every year since the late 90s". It'd be just as pointless a point to make.

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83. Posted:

Honestly, why are people even worrying about whether there are too many Mario games or what not? They sell, they're generally well received and people like them, so why make less? And besides Mario Kart, New Super Mario Bros, Super Mario Galaxy, Paper Mario and other such games all target a different audience (usually a different part of the Mario fanbase). Most people who buy one don't buy all the others, so for them there aren't too many games.

Not to mention that Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon is coming soon, and that game doesn't seem to include Mario himself in any way whatsoever.

Back to the topic though, I talked about what I wanted in the next 3D Mario game here:

http://nintendo3dscommunity.com/blog/6/entry-674-super-mario-...

I don't want another Mario Galaxy or 3D Land, I want an interesting hybrid of Mario 64 and Sunshine and Mario 3D Land (the open worlds of the former and power up/health system of the latter). That's what I think the series really needs now.

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Chrono_Cross

84. Posted:

It's like you think I don't know this. Your point is very obscure as well especially when you brought up Guitar Hero. Call of Duty and Guitar Hero share no similarities. Super Mario and Mario Kart share multiple.

The Mario franchise in its entirety sees too many releases every year. In my humble opinion, it would be splendid not having a Mario game of any kind released in 2013. As far fetched as it may sound, those idle resources could develop a new F-Zero or an Ice Climbers re-imagining.

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85. Posted:

MultiMariosonic wrote:

I know it's kinda early to think about, mostly because Super Mario 3D Land arrived only a year ago, but what should Mario's next 3D platformer be? Considering Wii U's capabilities, the next 3D Mario game should be pretty amazing. But where should he go next? He's been to a luxious resort, the Mushroom Kingdom, Mushroom Castle and he's been in space twice. Though Galaxy has lots of potential, I don't want to see a Galaxy 3. Maybe where Mario travels to a fantasy kingdom, and you use the Game Pad to interact with the environment, and Mario has different gameplay styles like regular Mario, a ball Mario, or a Mario made out of crayon? What do you guys want the next Mario 3D platformer to be like? I would also like to see a Zelda on Wii U, and for 3DS a Super Mario 3D Land sequel or a Super Mario Sunshine remake. Reply below please! :)

Make it Super Mario Sunshine 2. I don't consider 3D Land to prevent or hinder a new 3D Mario platformer on Wii U.

Just don't make it a clone/remake of the Gamecube game with different stage layouts. It should be a proper new Mario game. Also a Mario Party 10.

Perhaps the 3DS could get Super Mario Galaxy 3. And Mario Party DS 2.

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86. Posted:

CactusJackson wrote:

The Mario franchise in its entirety sees too many releases every year. In my humble opinion, it would be splendid not having a Mario game of any kind released in 2013.

I'm glad that Nintendo and most of the Nintendo fan base doesn't agree with you.

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GamecubeMan

87. Posted:

Whatever the next 3D Platforming Mario game will be, I'm sure it will be amazing. None of the 3D Platforming Mario Games have disappointing me. Except 3D Land but that game was probably just Nintendo testing a 3D Mario game on a handheld.

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88. Posted:

GamecubeMan wrote:

Except 3D Land but that game was probably just Nintendo testing a 3D Mario game on a handheld.

Remember this game?

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89. Posted:

3D Land basically existed because 3D was a good excuse to make a 3D platformer that played like a 2D Mario game instead of being what Super Mario 64 or Galaxy were. Miyamoto said so and IIRC it's been known for a long time that this is a major reason why Super Mario 64 was so different from previous Mario games, so I buy it. Also because 2D Mario games don't need 120 stars to collect or anything like that and it wasn't too far off from recent Mario games in general I assume.

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90. Posted:

Edward_J_Grug_III wrote:

CactusJackson wrote:

The Mario franchise in its entirety sees too many releases every year. In my humble opinion, it would be splendid not having a Mario game of any kind released in 2013.

I'm glad that Nintendo and most of the Nintendo fan base doesn't agree with you.

They don't have to. Though, I'm assuming you were trying to break my heart with this post. Nice try.

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91. Posted:

I want to see Super Mario Galexy 3 on the Wii U.

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92. Posted:

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I want to see Super Mario Galexy 3 on the Wii U.

Please no.

We need something more original. Nothing against the Galaxy games, but Nintendo needs to do something completely new with Mario in his Wii U outing.

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93. Posted:

CactusJackson wrote:

It's like you think I don't know this. Your point is very obscure as well especially when you brought up Guitar Hero. Call of Duty and Guitar Hero share no similarities

That was my point. I was ridiculing your lumping of all games with Mario in them together by bringing up an example that was equally as absurd. For example Mario Tennis on the GBC shares almost nothing with the actual Mario series. You go through a full on Tennis RPG with completely random characters and it only becomes a "Mario" title when you get to the championships and play against Mario. They could have sold it as just "Tennis" stripping every single Mario reference and it would have lost none of it's charm. It would have been the same game as far as my enjoyment of it went.

So yes, games with Mario in the title very frequently share as little as Guitar Hero and CoD do. This is the point I was trying to make. If you want to compare CoD releases to something compare it to a single franchise, ignore spin-offs and games which only share a word in the title and/or a publisher. If you do that then I'll take your comparison seriously.

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94. Posted:

Emaan wrote:

Absolute_Zero wrote:

I want to see Super Mario Galexy 3 on the Wii U.

Please no.

We need something more original. Nothing against the Galaxy games, but Nintendo needs to do something completely new with Mario in his Wii U outing.

This.

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95. Posted:

CactusJackson wrote:

The Mario franchise in its entirety sees too many releases every year. In my humble opinion, it would be splendid not having a Mario game of any kind released in 2013.

This will probably never happen knowing Nintendo. That is why I try to avoid most of the spin offs and pay attention to only the Mario RPG Games and the Main Super Mario/Bros Games. Asking Nintendo to stop releasing Mario games, for even a year is like asking Disney to stop making Mickey anything for a month. As much I love for Nintendo to take a break with anything Mario (4/5 Mario games that have been released in the past year havent exactly been my favorite) Nintendo is probably developing a Mario game right as we type. :/

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96. Posted:

pntjr wrote:

GamecubeMan wrote:

Except 3D Land but that game was probably just Nintendo testing a 3D Mario game on a handheld.

Remember this game?

Heh, the DS version of Super Mario 64.... Ugh, I remember the controls being absolutely dreadful on that 1, even more so for the 3 alternate characters selected.

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CactusJackson wrote:

Edward_J_Grug_III wrote:

CactusJackson wrote:

The Mario franchise in its entirety sees too many releases every year. In my humble opinion, it would be splendid not having a Mario game of any kind released in 2013.

I'm glad that Nintendo and most of the Nintendo fan base doesn't agree with you.

They don't have to. Though, I'm assuming you were trying to break my heart with this post. Nice try.

Not at all, just pointing out that you are in the minority.

Though, couldn't they just keep releasing the games and YOU take a break? Then everyone is happy.

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DaveGX

98. Posted:

The 1 thing I hope they don't start doing is keep remaking iterations of "New" Super Matrio Bros, granted OK it's fun to play with multiple people if you're good enough. However, I tend to lose incentive of it easily at times vs the 3D games. Kinda have to say, though, that Sunshine and Luigi's Mansion (while actually not an entirely bad game) I just kinda found a bit gimicky (Factor being what's up with the extra gear, all game. Regular items are nice, but), so I never really got into Sunshine for that particular reason.

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99. Posted:

Crash Bandicoot vs Sonic in the Mushroom Kingdom!!!!

Naughty Dog, Sega and Nintendo bring the best of three platforms to one game!!!

Seriously, though I made that up. Sorry if I got hopes up...
More entertaining than some of the serious not-gonna-happen stuff in this thread... ;)

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100. Posted:

Schprocket wrote:

Crash Bandicoot vs Sonic in the Mushroom Kingdom!!!!

Naughty Dog, Sega and Nintendo bring the best of three platforms to one game!!!

Seriously, though I made that up. Sorry if I got hopes up...

Don't worry, no one got their hopes up for that. :p

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