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Grumblevolcano

Wii U Metroid edition - comes with Wii Remote + Nunchuk as well as Metroid Prime Trilogy and Metroid Wii U pre-installed

Available in standard black for £199.99 or limited edition Metroid Prime 2 design for the console and controllers for £229.99.

Grumblevolcano

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Octane

More redesigns, and more confusion, that's indeed what Nintendo needs right now.

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Jacob717

@Jariw, perhaps you didn't read my comment. I said the GamePads resolution is 480p.

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Dreamsleep

They aren't going to redesign the WiiU. Waste of money.

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I don't even think with the kind of wifi the New 3DS/3DS uses streaming games would be possible with out cut backs.

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There will be no Gamepad redesign while Nintendo still has the order for about 12 million Gamepads from that 3rd party manufacturer.

Not sure a price drop would be strategically sound either. It didn't work for the Gamecube and there's nothing to suggest that it would work for the Wii U either. The goal should be to raise the value of the product, not drop the price. Consumers don't want it. It doesn't matter what it costs, if consumers don't want it, they won't buy it. Nintendo needs to change the image and marketing surrounding the console and deliver some games that mainstream audiences actually want to play in an ecosystem that makes sense for this generation.

The easier thing to do would be to just keep everything the same and ride out the rest of the generation on software profits. Any major redesigns or focus in marketing will happen next generation, not this one.

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Shy_Guy

I think we'll see a redesign of Wii U towards the end of its lifespan,maybe late 2016? or 2017?

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CaviarMeths

Shy_Guy wrote:

I think we'll see a redesign of Wii U towards the end of its lifespan,maybe late 2016? or 2017?

Redesign to what? Redesigns happen to address issues in the hardware, like cooling problems, size, or energy efficiency. The Wii U is already pretty much as small and efficient as it could possibly be for the price. The only redesign that might actually happen is to release models with 64/128GB flash memory, but that seems pretty pointless when all models support external memory anyway.

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veeflames

Octane wrote:

More redesigns, and more confusion, that's indeed what Nintendo needs right now.

Well, it worked well with the 3DS...

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DefHalan

VeeFlamesNL wrote:

Octane wrote:

More redesigns, and more confusion, that's indeed what Nintendo needs right now.

Well, it worked well with the 3DS...

Will it work well for the New 3DS???

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I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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Dreamsleep

VeeFlamesNL wrote:

Octane wrote:

More redesigns, and more confusion, that's indeed what Nintendo needs right now.

Well, it worked well with the 3DS...

3DS was already doing well, unlike the WiiU. Enhancements to a popular product are quite common, as people have become accustomed to smartphone upgrades. The WiiU, however, isn't even selling now. Revisions will not help. Trust me, they are already focusing on what the next console is going to look like (as in everything, OS, power, software, etc.).

And I mean planning stages, not building the thing. I do believe at least 1 or 2 games are already being made for it, specifically a Mario 3D platformer. The plan, if I'm correct, is to launch with a couple of powerhouse games, and a Mario platformer is just that. My guess would also be that it would be what we wanted for the WiiU, a sequel to Galaxy, aka Mario Universe.

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mushroomer

if the only thing that the NEW Wii U can do is allow for the 3DS to be an optional controller, i think that one option would push sales. think of all the people with new 3ds that dont have a wii yet. (including me) if they released a new wii u at 199 minus the gamepad, but you could use your new 3ds instead, then id jump on the bandwagon. and i believe a few more would as well. and if they made games cross buy like the new mario vs dk coming out, wow, can you imagine?

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skywake

There are a lot of technical reasons why this wouldn't work either at all or well, some have already been stated:
1. The Analogue sticks, the GamePad has full sticks that include buttons underneath them
2. The resolution and aspect ratio of the touch screen on the 3DS is a huge mismatch
3. There is no Magnetometer in the 3DS (it's minor but it's used for automatic recalibration of the gyro)
4. Again not a deal breaker but another thing, rumble. I personally think the GamePad's rumble is useless but it is a thing
5. On the New 3DS there's no second triggers at all, on the New 3DS they're well out of reach
6. Probably the biggest barrier is the fact that the (New) 3DS only has a 2.4Ghz WiFi Radio. The GamePad runs on 5Ghz. You can connect the 3DS to the Wii U but you'd have to go offline or use a wired connection in order to do so. And even if you got it working 2.4Ghz is very, very heavily used. You'd hit serious performance issues.

In short it's a pipe dream, not going to happen. There are actually quite a few games that require some of these extra features of the controller whether it's on the GamePad or the Pro Controller. Quite a few of them pretty prominent titles. So unless there's a massive new revision to the 3DS again that resolves all of these things it won't even be technically a good move. Let alone commercially, which is another argument entirely.

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Grumblevolcano

Dreamsleep wrote:

VeeFlamesNL wrote:

Octane wrote:

More redesigns, and more confusion, that's indeed what Nintendo needs right now.

Well, it worked well with the 3DS...

3DS was already doing well, unlike the WiiU. Enhancements to a popular product are quite common, as people have become accustomed to smartphone upgrades. The WiiU, however, isn't even selling now. Revisions will not help. Trust me, they are already focusing on what the next console is going to look like (as in everything, OS, power, software, etc.).

And I mean planning stages, not building the thing. I do believe at least 1 or 2 games are already being made for it, specifically a Mario 3D platformer. The plan, if I'm correct, is to launch with a couple of powerhouse games, and a Mario platformer is just that. My guess would also be that it would be what we wanted for the WiiU, a sequel to Galaxy, aka Mario Universe.

The 3DS did poorly for most of its 1st year, only saved by 3D Land and MK7 combined with a sufficient permanent price reductiom. Wii U tried to copy that formula but failed as 3D World is too similar to 3D Land and MK8 was released too late in the Wii U's lifespan.

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VanillaLake

Dreamsleep wrote:

My guess would also be that it would be what we wanted for the WiiU, a sequel to Galaxy, aka Mario Universe.

Noooo, I want a Super Mario 64 sequel!

The New series is a clones factory and the Super Mario 3D series is a weird mix I'm not fond of. I know lots of people love Galaxy, they were fresh and good, but I don't like the small planets and they are too focused on action.

Super Mario 64 and Super Mario World are the perfect 3D and 2D Mario games.

I think the New 3DS should be an optional Wii U controller but as many of you have explained, it's not exactly the same as the GamePad.

@skywake I almost didn't realise that the GamePad has the rumble feature.

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skywake

Can someone link to the original source of the "hybrid console" thing? I'm sure it was an official statement thing from Nintendo talking about how they were moving their portable and home console divisions closer. I have never gotten the impression that that meant they were specifically working on a hybrid or any sort of interaction to the extent that portables would be the controller. I always assumed it was more them trying to move towards what Sony is already doing.

Cross-buy, cross-save, cross-play. That their next portable console will be built with "feature equivalence" to the Wii U (input, screen aspect ratio, making ports easier etc) so that out of the gate they can have some content ready. Maybe when the 3DS' successor comes out you'll be able to download your Wii U collection of VC titles on day 1. Or that maybe things like the two versions of Smash Bros isn't the last time that will happen. In 2013 when the Wii U was struggling the 3DS had heaps of fantastic games, imagine if those games had come out for the Wii U at the same time. Maybe next time they'll be more in-sync and that's what they meant when they were talking about getting their portables and non-portable more in-sync.

Anywho, that was always my understanding of it. I don't remember hearing anything about the "hybrid" idea outside of the gaming media just assuming that's what they meant.

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Grumblevolcano

VanillaLake wrote:

Dreamsleep wrote:

My guess would also be that it would be what we wanted for the WiiU, a sequel to Galaxy, aka Mario Universe.

Noooo, I want a Super Mario 64 sequel!

The New series is a clones factory and the Super Mario 3D series is a weird mix I'm not fond of. I know lots of people love Galaxy, they were fresh and good, but I don't like the small planets and they are too focused on action.

Super Mario 64 and Super Mario World are the perfect 3D and 2D Mario games.

I think the New 3DS should be an optional Wii U controller but as many of you have explained, it's not exactly the same as the GamePad.

@skywake I almost didn't realise that the GamePad has the rumble feature.

I want a Super Mario Sunshine sequel with even more Blue Coins and difficult bonus levels. I still have fond memories of the pinball machine and poison river levels!

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VanillaLake

Grumblevolcano wrote:

VanillaLake wrote:

Dreamsleep wrote:

My guess would also be that it would be what we wanted for the WiiU, a sequel to Galaxy, aka Mario Universe.

Noooo, I want a Super Mario 64 sequel!

The New series is a clones factory and the Super Mario 3D series is a weird mix I'm not fond of. I know lots of people love Galaxy, they were fresh and good, but I don't like the small planets and they are too focused on action.

Super Mario 64 and Super Mario World are the perfect 3D and 2D Mario games.

I think the New 3DS should be an optional Wii U controller but as many of you have explained, it's not exactly the same as the GamePad.

@skywake I almost didn't realise that the GamePad has the rumble feature.

I want a Super Mario Sunshine sequel with even more Blue Coins and difficult bonus levels. I still have fond memories of the pinball machine and poison river levels!

Awesome game, yep, I loved it. Oh, those blue coins... I don't know how I got them all. Thanks to Youtube, of course.

@Skywake, I don't think people are saying that Nintendo said that, at least I didn't say it, I'm saying how much would I like the Nintendo Home + Nintendo Portable thing. As a matter of fact, I said they should be sold in pack and also separately, the games being the same, so Nintendo would have more time for developing them. I want Wave Race and F-Zero games back.

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skywake

@VanillaLake
I'd argue the "hyrbid console" hype and the "3DS as a GamePad" thing are along the same lines. And the idea that they should bundle them together seems strange if there isn't some sort of obvious reason for it. I frankly wouldn't be that surprised if a true 3DS successor had a "remote play" option in the same way the PSVita does. But I don't think even that would be reason enough to release a bundle.

Also the advantage of the "more games on both" idea is that people who don't own both can survive game droughts better. That games like Luigi's Mansion 2, Kid Icarus Uprising, Animal Crossing would have been on both. In the same way that they had Smash Bros on both 3DS and Wii U at the same time but maybe with cross-buy/cross-play. That's what I'm suggesting. And if they did that there'd be less reason to own both but people who owned one would be exposed to more games. Which means a bundle would be the last thing you'd need to do.

BTW if we're talking about their pricing of the Wii U as has been the convo in this thread. Well they probably are actually able to do a price drop in the US now purely because of shifts in currency. Because the US economy is stronger than it was at the Wii U's launch. Though the fact that the US economy is strengthening is a good reason not to need a price drop there anytime soon.

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VanillaLake

skywake wrote:

@VanillaLake
I'd argue the "hyrbid console" hype and the "3DS as a GamePad" thing are along the same lines. And the idea that they should bundle them together seems strange if there isn't some sort of obvious reason for it. I frankly wouldn't be that surprised if a true 3DS successor had a "remote play" option in the same way the PSVita does. But I don't think even that would be reason enough to release a bundle.

Also the advantage of the "more games on both" idea is that people who don't own both can survive game droughts better. That games like Luigi's Mansion 2, Kid Icarus Uprising, Animal Crossing would have been on both. In the same way that they had Smash Bros on both 3DS and Wii U at the same time but maybe with cross-buy/cross-play. That's what I'm suggesting. And if they did that there'd be less reason to own both but people who owned one would be exposed to more games. Which means a bundle would be the last thing you'd need to do.

BTW if we're talking about their pricing of the Wii U as has been the convo in this thread. Well they probably are actually able to do a price drop in the US now purely because of shifts in currency. Because the US economy is stronger than it was at the Wii U's launch. Though the fact that the US economy is strengthening is a good reason not to need a price drop there anytime soon.

We are saying more or less the same. About the bundle, I said that the handheld and the home console should be sold in a bundle and also separately, and I am meaning the next Nintendo consoles (some people calling them Nintendo Home and Nintendo Portable). Why would you like to get them both? Because some people really love playing games on the go. For the rest, they choose Home or Portable.

The best consequence of what you and I are saying is that there would be more and better games. Finally, we would get games not called something-Mario like F-Zero and Wave Race and all the great Nintendo franchises that they are ignoring since long ago.

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