Isn't the only time Nintendo released a revision of their home console the top loader NES?
Didn't that top loader only come out after the SNES launched?
At this point I don't see them revising the Wii U and I don't see them abandoning it early. Consoles make most of their profits more towards the back end of their life than the front end. Wii U's best profitability will not get cut short, even if it is not winning the console war it still going to make money.
I also think the idea of a hybrid console is something that can not be achieved with current technology as has been pointed out.
This came out after Wii U was realeased as well I am pretty sure. Like the top loading NES it was designed to be cheaper to produce and had less features. The NES top loader had inferior video output and the Wii Mini has no wifi, sd card, cheaper disc drive and I am not even sure if it has USB ports or not.
I wouldn't count dropping gamecube compatibility from Wii as a redesign.
right inferior cost saving designs of their 2 most successful consoles. Wii U doesn't qualify and even if it did history says it would be an inferior version launched after its successor.
Handhelds have gotten plenty of upgraded redesigns but not the home consoles.
The Wii was shown in full for the first time at E3 in the same year that it launched. Nintendo gave practically nothing on the Wii at E3 2005 (which is what we'll likely get on NX at E3 2015). I think they should give a graphics demo and confirm it won't have backwards compatibility at this E3 but they should keep the interface secret until the complete unveiling next year.
Well they haven't done as much as they did at E3 2005 yet and they've said they won't say anymore about it this year. So what I'm saying is that E3 2016 for the NX will be the equivalent of what we got in E3 2005 for the Wii U. You seem to think they'll do that this year.... there's no reason to believe that.
Like I already said, they gave nothing of substance at E3 2005 so there is virtually no difference from what we know about NX. There will be nothing out of the ordinary in revealing the NX at E3 2016 and launching in September on the anniversary of the N64.
Nintendo isn't showing anything from 2016 on WiiU at this E3 for a very good reason-- 2016 is NX. The WiiU has no future.
The Wii was shown in full for the first time at E3 in the same year that it launched. Nintendo gave practically nothing on the Wii at E3 2005 (which is what we'll likely get on NX at E3 2015). I think they should give a graphics demo and confirm it won't have backwards compatibility at this E3 but they should keep the interface secret until the complete unveiling next year.
Well they haven't done as much as they did at E3 2005 yet and they've said they won't say anymore about it this year. So what I'm saying is that E3 2016 for the NX will be the equivalent of what we got in E3 2005 for the Wii U. You seem to think they'll do that this year.... there's no reason to believe that.
Like I already said, they gave nothing of substance at E3 2005 so there is virtually no difference from what we know about NX. There will be nothing out of the ordinary in revealing the NX at E3 2016 and launching in September on the anniversary of the N64.
Nintendo isn't showing anything from 2016 on WiiU at this E3 for a very good reason-- 2016 is NX. The WiiU has no future.
That is some weird logic. Because Nintendo is focusing on games released before their next fincial year (which I believes ends March 2016) they must have nothing planned for the rest of 2016 and thus the NX is replacing the Wii U in September 2016. I haven't heard of any PS4/XB1 games being released in 2017 so that means they expect those systems to be dead by then and their replacements must be launching Winter 2016. I am sorry but no, the way to get on consumers good side isn't to replace hardware as fast as possible, it is to prove their hardware is a good investment. The Wii U probably won't be a money making machine for Nintendo (even though I heard they were profitable) but they still have plenty of work to do to increase their consumer image before replacing it. 2017 is the earliest the Wii U should be replaced and that is if Zelda U is an early 2016 game.
People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...
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The Wii was shown in full for the first time at E3 in the same year that it launched. Nintendo gave practically nothing on the Wii at E3 2005 (which is what we'll likely get on NX at E3 2015). I think they should give a graphics demo and confirm it won't have backwards compatibility at this E3 but they should keep the interface secret until the complete unveiling next year.
Well they haven't done as much as they did at E3 2005 yet and they've said they won't say anymore about it this year. So what I'm saying is that E3 2016 for the NX will be the equivalent of what we got in E3 2005 for the Wii U. You seem to think they'll do that this year.... there's no reason to believe that.
Like I already said, they gave nothing of substance at E3 2005 so there is virtually no difference from what we know about NX. There will be nothing out of the ordinary in revealing the NX at E3 2016 and launching in September on the anniversary of the N64.
Nintendo isn't showing anything from 2016 on WiiU at this E3 for a very good reason-- 2016 is NX. The WiiU has no future.
You're really continuing with this? You're just about the most one-note, deluded, irrational person I think I've been in contact with over a forum board. And seriously, that's really saying something. Nintendo's not talking about 2016 games because gasp THERE ARE 2015 GAMES TO TALK ABOUT! Shocking, I know. It makes no sense whatsoever that Nintendo would prefer to talk about games coming within the next eight months than talk about games that won't be out until AFTER E3, next year. It's possibly the most backwards, illogical thing Nintendo has EVER done. [/sarcasm]
Seriously, I've said it before, and I'll keep saying it. You're fractally wrong. Your incorrect statements and assumptions are only backed by more incorrect statements and assumptions and potentially just plain made-up facts that you probably pulled from thin air. The history of the gaming industry doesn't agree with you. The present of the gaming industry doesn't agree with you. The audience of the gaming industry doesn't agree with you, and I bet if we asked nearly anyone in the gaming industry, they'd think your argument is pretty laughable, too.
I don't mean to go on a shaming rant, but you've really gotta go do some research. At least learn the actual causes for things, rather than just assuming. In Science classes, the first thing they teach you is to shape theories to suit your observations, not the other way around. You think Nintendo is going to drop the Wii U because you WANT Nintendo to drop the Wii U, but anyone with a brain and an internet connect can (and has) find plenty of reason to think that idea is just about the worst one going. If Nintendo drops the Wii U early, they can say goodbye to any hopes of their next console doing any good at all. No one will care what the specs are. They could blow modern gaming PCs out of the water and be cheaper than the other two 8th gen consoles to boot, but no one would buy the system because they'd be convinced no one else would and thus the system would suffer a similar fate and cease support within four years, just like you're suggesting the Wii U will.
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Sony and Microsoft will be teasing 2016 releases. Sony is going to have a huge year next year in software (call me a conspiracy quack but they are delaying game releases to next year and potentially launching Morpheus to obstruct Nintendo's launch as much as possible).
The only two games that are on Nintendo's map for 2016 are Zelda and Pokken (which is allegedly never intended to come to WiiU, hint-hint).
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Sony and Microsoft will be teasing 2016 releases. Sony is going to have a huge year next year in software (call me a conspiracy quack but they are delaying game releases to next year and potentially launching Morpheus to obstruct Nintendo's launch as much as possible).
The only two games that are on Nintendo's map for 2016 are Zelda and Pokken (which is allegedly never intended to come to WiiU, hint-hint).
This statement from Sony seems to imply the opposite:
Like I already said, they gave nothing of substance at E3 2005 so there is virtually no difference from what we know about NX.
Well except that at E3 2005 we knew the Wii was:
A home console
Would have a virtual console service
Would be backwards compatible with Gamecube games
by the end of 2005 we even knew about the WiiMote!
So far for the NX we know.... literally nothing. We know a codename. We don't know if it's a portable or a home console, we don't know if it'll be backwards compatible with anything. We don't know what the controller is (which we did know for the Wii and Wii U at or just after E3). So I really don't buy your statement that compared to then there's "virtually no difference from what we know about NX"
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@BlueSkies You prove with every statement you make that you know absolutely nothing about the industry. Sony would block Nintendo like that because for one, they gain nothing from it. They can't take the attention off Nintendo by having a jam packed year, that'll only keep their current audience's attention. The reason for this is because Nintendo offers as completely different sort of product. Their games and systems are nothing like Sony's. Second off, Sony actually stands to lose from Nintendo failing out. That's bad news for them on multiple levels. If Nintendo sells, Sony isn't really gonna beat out other top bidders like Microsoft, but far more likely is that Nintendo won't sell. In which case, the industry loses a ton of important IP, one of their biggest innovators, and a LOT of gamers with it. Sony isn't stupid.
All I can say is as a Wii U owner I'm blissfully unaware of any problems. I see a pretty full software line-up for this year and I'll be stunned if they have nothing to reveal for 2016. If the 2016 schedule looks empty then I'm prepared to believe they're going to put this machine to bed soon, so I guess we can end this debate in a few weeks.
All I can say is as a Wii U owner I'm blissfully unaware of any problems. I see a pretty full software line-up for this year and I'll be stunned if they have nothing to reveal for 2016. If the 2016 schedule looks empty then I'm prepared to believe they're going to put this machine to bed soon, so I guess we can end this debate in a few weeks.
Not likely. Keep in mind that E3 primarily focuses on the coming year. Not just for Nintendo, but in general. If a company has stuff to talk about for the rest of the year, they're gonna talk about that and only occasionally mention what's coming next year. This goes double for Nintendo, since they will have more presentations, later this year. (Most likely one in October and one in December, and possibly two or three others.) If we get a Direct after November this year or next, and the 2016 line-up still looks as sparse as it does right now (six or seven games isn't bad for being half a year off, but it would be pathetic if this was December), then I'll be inclined to think that the Wii U is on its deathbed. (And subsequently be extremely pissed at Nintendo for pulling another Twilight Princess.) But until the likely December or January Direct, I won't worry too much about the 2016 line-up.
For that matter, realistically, what's coming next year?
Zelda U
SMTxFE
FE if
That new Mario they talked about shortly after 3D World launched
At least one new Metroid
Pokken Fighters
Super Poke'mon Mystery Dungeon
something from Next Level
something from Retro (provided neither of these two are working on one or both of those potential Metroids)
something from Camelot (probably a Mario Sports thing)
And we'll likely still see support from Namco, as well.
Aw, come on guys! I'd love to see a Wii U Lite. Smaller, tad thinner GamePad and a smaller Wii U system. It could come in many colors and launch with a better Wii U OS that would soon be carried to the old Wii U systems. And it could come bundled....
OK, I think I'm dreaming to far, but it's harmless.... right?
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