It has been about a year and a half since I bought a decent third party retail game on the 3DS... My Wii U HDD on the other hand has a nice selection of DIGITAL 4 LYFE awesomeness
I agree with most of the things that he is saying, apart from the stuff about still buying third party games if they are inferior to versions on other platforms. Let's say someone has a PS4 and a Wii U, and wants to buy Assassin's Creed 4. They see articles that say that the Wii U version has performance issues and fewer features than the PS4 version. Which one are they going to buy? To me at least, charging into the Wii U version despite the obvious inferiority seems like the more fanboyish and misguided decision. I see the problem that Nintendo fanboys are not buying third party games, but when those games are constantly under such bad press for not being as good as versions on other platforms, who can honestly blame them?
I agree with most of the things that he is saying, apart from the stuff about still buying third party games if they are inferior to versions on other platforms. Let's say someone has a PS4 and a Wii U, and wants to buy Assassin's Creed 4. They see articles that say that the Wii U version has performance issues and fewer features on the PS4 version. Which one are they going to buy? To me at least, charging into the Wii U version despite the obvious inferiority seems like the more fanboyish and misguided decision. I see the problem that Nintendo fanboys are not buying third party games, but when those games are constantly under such bad press for not being as good as versions on other platforms, who can honestly blame them?
That is also a valid point that I think actually goes with Multiplats on Nintendo Platforms. Rarely do Multiplats for Nintendo systems ever get the same rating as the other System's.
I REALLY hate how people say they murdered Metroid when really all they did was release a Non-Metroid Prime game.
Otherwise good article.
The complaints are fair imo, it was mostly about what they did to Samus rather than the game which good but not brillaint. They took a strong female character and made her insecure and annoying, the dialogue was terrible too. Imagine Alien being rebooted and turning Ripley into a teen girl from a slasher film type, adding and changing things to the Metroid games is fine if it's kept in the spirit of it.
The people who refuse to buy 3rd party games and ony buy Nintendo's games are a problem.
The blog talks about the Wii U being steered in the wrong direction because of this and causes 3rd parties to abandon the system; but it fails to address the problem of the 3rd party games being incredibly gimped to start with. Why should Wii U owners have to accept a lesser version of a game? If they bent over and took it then what's to stop the ports being continually gimped? It's a viscous cycle - 3rd party releases lazy port - nobody buys lazy port - 3rd party says no demand for these games and doesn't make them for Wii U anymore.
The people who refuse to buy 3rd party games and ony buy Nintendo's games are a problem.
The blog talks about the Wii U being steered in the wrong direction because of this and causes 3rd parties to abandon the system; but it fails to address the problem of the 3rd party games being incredibly gimped to start with. Why should Wii U owners have to accept a lesser version of a game? If they bent over and took it then what's to stop the ports being continually gimped? It's a viscous cycle - 3rd party releases lazy port - nobody buys lazy port - 3rd party says no demand for these games and doesn't make them for Wii U anymore.
Poor porting a problem but 3rd party original games also suffer. ZombiU didn't even make it's budget and Ninja Gaiden 3, Batman Arkham City and Warriors Orochi 3 had extra features but still only did so-so at best.
Poor porting a problem but 3rd party original games also suffer. ZombiU didn't even make it's budget and Ninja Gaiden 3, Batman Arkham City and Warriors Orochi 3 had extra features but still only did so-so at best.
Well to be fair the Wii U version Arkham City was widely reported as having issues. Glitches and framerate issues. I don't know how true that was because I never got it. ZombiU felt a bit out of place and isn't the sort of game that is going to sell well anyway. It didn't get reviews of a high enough standard to break through that. Ninja Gaiden 3 on the Wii U was the best version of a game that got very, very average reviews and average sales. Same story with Warriors Orochi 3.
Then you look at the games which were received well by the critics. Assassin's Creed while it hasn't blown away sales did ok given the size of the Wii U install base. Disney Infinity and Skylanders punched above their weight on the Wii U. Then there's Rayman Legends which sold about the same or better on Wii U than it did on other platforms.
Look back at the best quality and best performing third party games on the Wii. It wasn't the cross-platform stuff or the sort of stuff that you could even get on other platforms. It was games like Zack and Wiki, World of Goo, Bit Trip, Tatsunoku vs Capcom, Rayman, Okami and so on. That's the sort of third party support people are looking for when they get a Wii U. If they wanted all of the mainstream AAA cross platform titles they'd have gone somewhere else. Nintendo is for the weird, quirky, retro titles that you can't get anywhere else.
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"Don't stir the pot" is a nice way of saying "they're too dumb to reason with"
The only message i get out of this is "Don't expect Nintendo alone to give you all the gaming you could ever want. When you played all you want from them don't blame third parties for your own boredom and frustration - when you're not even interested in their stuff in the first place."
Of course it's not always a lack of interest that gets in the way of people getting third party games on a Ninty platform but when i look back to some comments ,especially to the Nintendo Download articles, i've got to agree.
When people say "nothing but crap this week" and there's brand new stuff that scored as high as 8/10 and 9/10 it's hard to take 'em seriously. But if you never heard about it before that automatically makes it a bad game of course...
Then you look at the games which were received well by the critics. Assassin's Creed while it hasn't blown away sales did ok given the size of the Wii U install base. Disney Infinity and Skylanders punched above their weight on the Wii U. Then there's Rayman Legends which sold about the same or better on Wii U than it did on other platforms.
Look back at the best quality and best performing third party games on the Wii. It wasn't the cross-platform stuff or the sort of stuff that you could even get on other platforms. It was games like Zack and Wiki, World of Goo, Bit Trip, Tatsunoku vs Capcom, Rayman, Okami and so on. That's the sort of third party support people are looking for when they get a Wii U. If they wanted all of the mainstream AAA cross platform titles they'd have gone somewhere else. Nintendo is for the weird, quirky, retro titles that you can't get anywhere else.
All of those Wii games sold so-so at best, I think the Wii version of Call Of Duty 3 cames close to outselling all of them combined. The best selling games were Just Dance (by a large margin), Lego and Mario & Sonic.
I dunno, I wouldn't put it all the blame in the rabid fanboys, since everybody (Nintendo included) is screwing the Wii U in some sort of way. Nintendo not giving capacitation to 3rd parties, 3rd parties half-assing it, fanboys scorned by that, Nintendo wasting marketing opportunities, etc. But so far, the only one who is at least trying to fix this is Nintendo itself.
ok this got me confused a little.........................
why not complaining means someone is a fanboy? why not liking the available colors make someone less right?
I understand that not taking criticism at all is being a fanboy but having nothing to complain isn't, if the person is easily pleased that's his/her own business. other than that yeah it's about right.....
and there's also the fact fanboys make other people mad what leads those people to avoid that certain brand sorrounded by fanboys.
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For the record, my entire contribution to this thread will be relevant opinions by me followed by the exact same message, that you either need to stop being so absurdly close-minded on any other developers' content or leave before you cause the complete decline of relevance of Nintendo. Repeat until the end of time if necessary.
To put it simply, I do both love Nintendo's games and think on average there is no game company to ever deliver as many great gaming experiences. But just for some examples, I like Pikmin but that doesn't mean Little King's Story isn't an even better (and more insane) Pikmin. Beyond Good and Evil is better than all but 2 Zelda games imo. Shadow Complex embarrasses THAT Metroid game and is around as good as the GBA releases (despite its boring aesthetic). I'd be surprised if more than one or two people here have played all 3 games I just mentioned. But these aren't bro-shooters or whatever, these are games basically made out of love for Nintendo style games (IIRC, Shadow Complex is a flat out confirmed love letter to Metroid) It's just the tiniest example that there are so many games out there that focusing exclusively (or anything close to exclusively) to Nintendo is a bad idea as a gamer who likes good video games. Or if you want a much simpler example, imagine the games you could have gotten if you didn't buy Paper Mario:Sticker Star. And with the AAA support mostly being one game in Watch_Dogs (in terms of major releases that everyone would consider AAA at least), and everything else being cheaper indie titles, you have even less of an excuse. And for the record, if you still need to make excuses, that is on you and you need to go away before you hurt Nintendo.
Saw the title of the thread and thought I was on Cracked.Com, but this was actually a really good read! I hope more people read this and take it to heart.
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I love Nintendo just as much as the next guy, but I'm just a gamer at heart. All I want is to play games that I enjoy, I don't care who makes them. That being said, I do prefer Zelda to Beyond Good & Evil and I prefer the first Pikmin to Little King's Story.
I think the article hit some good points, but fanboys aren't the only problem here. Third-party developers really need to step up and deliver solid games, not butchered ports, not games with missing content, and not games with performance issues. The problem comes from the fact that they either aren't willing to take the chance, or the game sells poorly.
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