I was just thinking maybe a volcano goes off ravaging the land and leaving it's Mark after you put a certain set of sequences in motion. This can be done near the beginning or towards the middle. What it does though can cause you more problems if done to early and you need to find things in the area affected. Maybe now the treasure you need is buried underneath layers of rock and if you got it before it would've been an easy open and find. If you don't have the item to get through the rock then you need to find it. Of course this could work with you triggering making water rise somewhere and now you're unable to swim to a cave or something. Just some thoughts.
I would really prefer reactive changes in the world like this to randomly generated or changing dungeons. Dungeons are always so well designed, asking for them to be adaptive is like trading in more, better dungeons to play through one of several, inevitably lesser, routes.
For me Zelda games have always been about permanence; permanent story progress, item unlocks, and precise level design. Even in Majora's Mask with all the resetting there were a set number of states that could either be achieved or not, and you still kept your major item unlocks.
I don't like the idea of randomly generated dungeons because the aesthetics and layout of the dungeons would always be generic or not utilized to its fullest. That and I don't want dungeons to adapt to your actions because creating those 2+ alternate dungeons would take twice the effort or so, resulting in less dungeons and less puzzles in the open world (the thing we want full of stuff to do, remember?).
Besides, there's already enough cards in the air with nonlinear dungeon order going on.
I was just thinking maybe a volcano goes off ravaging the land and leaving it's Mark after you put a certain set of sequences in motion. This can be done near the beginning or towards the middle. What it does though can cause you more problems if done to early and you need to find things in the area affected. Maybe now the treasure you need is buried underneath layers of rock and if you got it before it would've been an easy open and find. If you don't have the item to get through the rock then you need to find it. Of course this could work with you triggering making water rise somewhere and now you're unable to swim to a cave or something. Just some thoughts.
I would really prefer reactive changes in the world like this to randomly generated or changing dungeons. Dungeons are always so well designed, asking for them to be adaptive is like trading in more, better dungeons to play through one of several, inevitably lesser, routes.
For me Zelda games have always been about permanence; permanent story progress, item unlocks, and precise level design. Even in Majora's Mask with all the resetting there were a set number of states that could either be achieved or not, and you still kept your major item unlocks.
I don't like the idea of randomly generated dungeons because the aesthetics and layout of the dungeons would always be generic or not utilized to its fullest. That and I don't want dungeons to adapt to your actions because creating those 2+ alternate dungeons would take twice the effort or so, resulting in less dungeons and less puzzles in the open world (the thing we want full of stuff to do, remember?).
Besides, there's already enough cards in the air with nonlinear dungeon order going on.
While I don't want randomly generated dungeons, I do want to see them swap out enemies as you progress. If you enter a dungeon first, you could find Bokoblins, but if you enter last, you'd find Darknuts. Puzzle difficulty has never really had much progression anyway, so adjusting it wouldn't make sense.
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I was just thinking maybe a volcano goes off ravaging the land and leaving it's Mark after you put a certain set of sequences in motion. This can be done near the beginning or towards the middle. What it does though can cause you more problems if done to early and you need to find things in the area affected. Maybe now the treasure you need is buried underneath layers of rock and if you got it before it would've been an easy open and find. If you don't have the item to get through the rock then you need to find it. Of course this could work with you triggering making water rise somewhere and now you're unable to swim to a cave or something. Just some thoughts.
I would really prefer reactive changes in the world like this to randomly generated or changing dungeons. Dungeons are always so well designed, asking for them to be adaptive is like trading in more, better dungeons to play through one of several, inevitably lesser, routes.
For me Zelda games have always been about permanence; permanent story progress, item unlocks, and precise level design. Even in Majora's Mask with all the resetting there were a set number of states that could either be achieved or not, and you still kept your major item unlocks.
I don't like the idea of randomly generated dungeons because the aesthetics and layout of the dungeons would always be generic or not utilized to its fullest. That and I don't want dungeons to adapt to your actions because creating those 2+ alternate dungeons would take twice the effort or so, resulting in less dungeons and less puzzles in the open world (the thing we want full of stuff to do, remember?).
Besides, there's already enough cards in the air with nonlinear dungeon order going on.
While I don't want randomly generated dungeons, I do want to see them swap out enemies as you progress. If you enter a dungeon first, you could find Bokoblins, but if you enter last, you'd find Darknuts. Puzzle difficulty has never really had much progression anyway, so adjusting it wouldn't make sense.
I think swapping out enemies could work if done right. The crux of the concept is not to replace fire bubbles with ice bubbles in the volcano dungeon just because the ice bubbles are higher leveled, etc.
You know, the random caves and grottos could be randomly generated. I mean, they're always minor and lacking in major gimmicks (outside of the Pit of 100 Trials/Cave of Ordeals stuff), so you could have them change every time you play, and their locations randomly decided as well.
You know, the random caves and grottos could be randomly generated. I mean, they're always minor and lacking in major gimmicks (outside of the Pit of 100 Trials/Cave of Ordeals stuff), so you could have them change every time you play, and their locations randomly decided as well.
Q1: Has Nintendo ever randomly generated a 3D environment
Q2: Do randomly generated environments usually turn out well? Are they worse than handcrafted environments.
I'm all for keeping random generation miles away from Zelda, especially for the world. Seriously, randomly generated environments are always more forgettable than handcrafted ones, even for caves. Plus you know you'd end up with that one glitchy cave atop a tree or some such.
The swordplay needs improvement. I wanna feel epic for swinging a sword. I would like if Aonuma sorta copied the epic animations from Final Fantasy XV when Noctis swings his sword. Link should be doing super cool grandeur moves. Twilight Princess sorta has that.
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The swordplay needs improvement. I wanna feel epic for swinging a sword. I would like if Aonuma sorta copied the epic animations from Final Fantasy XV when Noctis swings his sword. Link should be doing super cool grandeur moves. Twilight Princess sorta has that.
Lol, have you played FF XV? I would be great with just Twilight Princess with some more hidden skills, but I think they'll do more than that. I imagine there'll be something flashy for the sword, perhaps like horse launching into a charged jump attack?
Swordplay doesn't need to be flashy and cool. It needs to be intuitive, responsive, and fluid. Finishing moves disrupt combat flow and if the context button gets too elaborate, you're crossing over into QTE territory, which belong nowhere in Zelda.
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Swordplay doesn't need to be flashy and cool. It needs to be intuitive, responsive, and fluid. Finishing moves disrupt combat flow and if the context button gets too elaborate, you're crossing over into QTE territory, which belong nowhere in Zelda.
Twilight Princess GCN was both stylish and responsive, so I don't see why you're objecting. Nintendo can do great sword combat when the wiimote isn't involved. That and the controller has plenty of buttons to map different attacks to.
Swordplay doesn't need to be flashy and cool. It needs to be intuitive, responsive, and fluid. Finishing moves disrupt combat flow and if the context button gets too elaborate, you're crossing over into QTE territory, which belong nowhere in Zelda.
Twilight Princess GCN was both stylish and responsive, so I don't see why you're objecting. Nintendo can do great sword combat when the wiimote isn't involved. That and the controller has plenty of buttons to map different attacks to.
Twilight Princess was Ocarina of Time with a bunch of flashy moves that you were neither encouraged to or ever needed to use. It was tacked on. Wind Waker still has the most polished and refined combat in the series, with no excess fat. I'm hoping that's the main influence for swordplay in Zelda U.
And I hope Aonuma understands his own work well enough to know that mapping several different sword attacks to several different buttons is a poor design choice for this kind of game.
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The swordplay needs improvement. I wanna feel epic for swinging a sword. I would like if Aonuma sorta copied the epic animations from Final Fantasy XV when Noctis swings his sword. Link should be doing super cool grandeur moves. Twilight Princess sorta has that.
Lol, have you played FF XV? I would be great with just Twilight Princess with some more hidden skills, but I think they'll do more than that. I imagine there'll be something flashy for the sword, perhaps like horse launching into a charged jump attack?
Lol I haven't played FF XV but the latest trailer impressed me so much. I was watching the epic way Noctis swung his sword. It was flashy, cool, and made me feel awesome for just looking at it. I want Link to be more like that. I want him to be agile and smooth while swinging his blade. Twilight Princess was dancing around that. Wind Waker didn't do it. And if the focus is really on the bow then I want the bow animations and movement to be much better in Zelda U.
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Swordplay doesn't need to be flashy and cool. It needs to be intuitive, responsive, and fluid. Finishing moves disrupt combat flow and if the context button gets too elaborate, you're crossing over into QTE territory, which belong nowhere in Zelda.
Twilight Princess GCN was both stylish and responsive, so I don't see why you're objecting. Nintendo can do great sword combat when the wiimote isn't involved. That and the controller has plenty of buttons to map different attacks to.
Twilight Princess was Ocarina of Time with a bunch of flashy moves that you were neither encouraged to or ever needed to use. It was tacked on. Wind Waker still has the most polished and refined combat in the series, with no excess fat. I'm hoping that's the main influence for swordplay in Zelda U.
And I hope Aonuma understands his own work well enough to know that mapping several different sword attacks to several different buttons is a poor design choice for this kind of game.
Lol, what? Twilight Princess is bad for having combat variety? You realized they just made the contextual counter attack from the Wind Waker into the helm splitter and back slice which you could use at will. Enemies like the dynalfos and darknut really challenged you to use your different hidden skills.
Don't get me wrong, the Wind Waker is great, but it's just Ocarina of Time with the counter button added. It's simply too simple a combat system nowadays. I hope Zelda U has enough combat variety to keep me interested in fighting.
On this game being focused on the bow, it may be a focus for the trailers, as it's a new feature, but horseback and on foot sword combat is always mapped to a face button. The sword attack is always there and is always essential for melee combat and sword duels. 3D Zelda games have always used both the sword and bow and they need both components to be fun.
Swordplay doesn't need to be flashy and cool. It needs to be intuitive, responsive, and fluid. Finishing moves disrupt combat flow and if the context button gets too elaborate, you're crossing over into QTE territory, which belong nowhere in Zelda.
Twilight Princess GCN was both stylish and responsive, so I don't see why you're objecting. Nintendo can do great sword combat when the wiimote isn't involved. That and the controller has plenty of buttons to map different attacks to.
Twilight Princess was Ocarina of Time with a bunch of flashy moves that you were neither encouraged to or ever needed to use. It was tacked on. Wind Waker still has the most polished and refined combat in the series, with no excess fat. I'm hoping that's the main influence for swordplay in Zelda U.
And I hope Aonuma understands his own work well enough to know that mapping several different sword attacks to several different buttons is a poor design choice for this kind of game.
Lol, what? Twilight Princess is bad for having combat variety? You realized they just made the contextual counter attack from the Wind Waker into the helm splitter and back slice which you could use at will. Enemies like the dynalfos and darknut really challenged you to use your different hidden skills.
Don't get me wrong, the Wind Waker is great, but it's just Ocarina of Time with the counter button added. It's simply too simple a combat system nowadays. I hope Zelda U has enough combat variety to keep me interested in fighting.
On this game being focused on the bow, it may be a focus for the trailers, as it's a new feature, but horseback and on foot sword combat is always mapped to a face button. The sword attack is always there and is always essential for melee combat and sword duels. 3D Zelda games have always used both the sword and bow and they need both components to be fun.
@Haru17Thank you Wind Waker Is a great game but the swordplay was so simple. It worked fine but I want more in depth.
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To be fair, Twilight Princess is the most complex I want Zelda's swordplay to ever get. Zelda's always been about using a variety of items alongside the basic swordplay.
No, it really isn't. There's nothing at all outdated about Wind Waker's combat design. That's why they can re-release it as a Wii U game and still get dozens of perfect scores across all sizes of publications. The reason why Nintendo games are so timeless and well-regarded is because they go for simplicity in mechanics and complexity in level design. You can learn how to play Super Mario Bros. in 30 seconds, but it's a fairly difficult game to beat because it's all about mastering those few simple mechanics across a fantastic variety of levels and enemies. Zelda works the same way, though modern games from both series have been much easier than the NES/SNES days.
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