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Topic: Suspicious appearance of "Mario Kart 8: Add-On Content Trailer" on eshop

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GoldenGamer88

@Grumblevolcano: If Junior is absent from another Mario Kart game, I will freak out! I have no problem with characters they totally make up but some of the important ones should just be filled up first. It's not like in Smash Bros. where each character takes months to program, I think.

I still don't see any reason in making more Mario Kart 8 DLC over having Mario Kart as a launch title (or close to launch) for NX. I mean, I most certainly would love to see more MK8 DLC and Mario Kart NX as soon as possible but priorities just have to be set in cases like this.

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They're pushing a Mario Kart 8 + Splatoon hardware bundle pretty heavily atm (in Germany at least)
I doubt it's any more than them wanting to make new owners aware of the DLC with a trailer that shows all of it (I don't think we had a trailer for both packs before, right?)

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@GoldenGamer88: What's worse is Bowser Jr.'s appearance in Smash is totally Mario Kart inspired (a few of his moves and taunts).

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DarthNocturnal

Less Koopa Kids (unless they're just alt costumes, like Smash), metallic characters and babies, more non-Mario characters. And Dry Bones.

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jump

^I like the Koopa kids but they do take up a lot of spaces on the roster. I'm hoping for Diddy Kong to come back.

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@arronishere

I was thinking more like Samus, Kirby, Pit, etc. We got Link, Isabelle, and Villager. I say we should keep the ball rolling.

Diddy is cool though. And maybe bring back Funky Kong.

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jump

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@arronishere

I was thinking more like Samus, Kirby, Pit, etc. We got Link, Isabelle, and Villager. I say we should keep the ball rolling.

Diddy is cool though. And maybe bring back Funky Kong.

My money is on Mario Kart 9 being the start of a full blown Nintendo cast for Mario Kart. Diddy is the only one I'm really missing as he's a favourite of mine.

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Mister_Wu

DarthNocturnal wrote:

Less Koopa Kids (unless they're just alt costumes, like Smash), metallic characters and babies, more non-Mario characters. And Dry Bones.

I'd rather have more Mario characters! Bowser Jr., Dry Bones, Diddy Kong, Birdo, Petey Piranha, King Boo, Funky Kong and Kamek are more than enough "new" characters. And sorry, but I'd rather have all 8 Koopalings (7 + Bowser Jr.) and Kamek than more Nintendo non-Mario characters, after all this is Mario Kart!

P.S.: of course, if you mean "group the Koopalings and Bowser Jr. in a single slot covering all the weight classes, in a similar way as it is done now for Villager", I am all in! No point in not grouping them on the character select screen!

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@arronishere

Here's hoping. Some say it'd ruin the "special-ness" if other Nintendo characters all joined in, but if you keep saving stuff for a "special occasion", that occasion may never come. And if it really is the 25th Anniversary... why not? DLC or MK9, bring it on either way.

@Mister_Wu

Yeah, I didn't mind their Smash inclusion because of the way it was handled (just alt costumes). But MK8... I look at the roster and think "why is all this filler here? Where are the more interesting Mario characters? Where are the long-overdue Nintendo characters?".

I wasn't terribly excited about Tanooki Mario & Cat Peach either... more alt costumes passing as characters. They might as well have made every Yoshi and Shy Guy color be a separate character.

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GoldenGamer88

No, the Koopalings need to say. I love all of them very much. Why can't we just keep all the characters?

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GoldenGamer88 wrote:

No, the Koopalings need to say. I love all of them very much. Why can't we just keep all the characters?

This is a very interesting question. After Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, that had all the characters of the previous Mario Kart games (even though that Donkey Kong/Donkey Kong Jr. case really isn't solved...) the developers had more and more problems in keeping the roster without making cuts. While in the case of the portable games this can be understood, in the case of the home console this generated much disappointment and hatred toward the new characters (and in the case of the Koopalings this is a particularly sad thing, as MK8 is the first game they were playable in since they were introduced 25 years earlier!). I'd rather have Nintendo focus on having the MK8 roster while filling at least the important holes (read: lack of characters that appeared in at least two previous Mario Kart games, plus maybe at least Funky Kong who is the most used character in online MKW races even now) for the next Mario Kart.

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DarthNocturnal

Personally I feel the Koopa Kids are overrated. Still important characters to the Mario series, but overrated. I'd be more excited if Goomba and Paragoomba made it in.

Kamek or even Kammy (from Paper Mario) would be interesting. Kamek (or a regular Magikoopa) was going to be playable in Mario Kart 64, but was axed for Donkey Kong.

I'd just like a little (or a lot of) diversity, and the Koopa Kids (as separate characters), alongside the baby characters (and now possibly metal) seem to be going against that.

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GoldenGamer88

@Mister_Wu: I agree. I could live with the MK8 roster + important missing ones just fine, mainly Diddy and Junior. Birdo, King Boo, Funky, Dry Bones and maybe Wiggler, too. The only newcomer I'd really need to see is Dixie, honestly. Outside of that, I wished they'd do more with the color variations. Like have differently colored Toads and Birdos but also something like a Fire Mario skin for Mario or Ice Luigi for Luigi, too. These can't take up that much time, right?

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@DarthNocturnal: So are the Goombas supposed to use their psychic abilities they've used in Mario Baseball? ;p

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Mister_Wu

DarthNocturnal wrote:

I'd just like a little (or a lot of) diversity, and the Koopa Kids (as separate characters), alongside the baby characters (and now possibly metal) seem to be going against that.

I'm sorry, I disagree on the point that the Koopalings aren't different enough one from the other and from Bowser Jr. and Bowser and that therefore don't create diversity! We can agree though on other points, and I also agree that their presence shouldn't be instead of veterans or ignored characters, but with them!
You're right on Kamek, he was going to be a playable character in Mario Kart 64 but then was axed, this is why I mentioned him.

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@Mister_Wu

Can't they be diverse as alt costumes? Yoshi and Shy Guy style?

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@Mister_Wu

Can't they be diverse as alt costumes? Yoshi and Shy Guy style?

I said it before and I'll confirm it: absolutely yes, after Villager this is not even a point of arguing. One slot, possibly along with Bowser Jr. (because this happened in the meantime: http://oi65.tinypic.com/20swpj4.jpg)! No need to have a roster occupied by them when they were grouped together in the first place! The comment was about the characters, not about the crazy situation of MK8 roster!

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DarthNocturnal wrote:

I have no problem with characters they totally make up but some of the important ones should just be filled up first.

Which made up characters do you mean? Which "important ones" are you referring to?

GoldenGamer88 wrote:

I still don't see any reason in making more Mario Kart 8 DLC over having Mario Kart as a launch title (or close to launch) for NX. I mean, I most certainly would love to see more MK8 DLC and Mario Kart NX as soon as possible but priorities just have to be set in cases like this.

I'm pretty sure they're already working on the next MK title. Nintendo's dev teams usually directly start with the next installment of a big title. They just don't have a public development journal.

That said, I still wish to get a Doubledash DLC for MK8. If not, they totally missed out on a great opportunity (for making money and expanding the game in a useful way), we need the DD-mode back!

GoldenGamer88 wrote:

Yet somehow new Pink Gold Peach type characters will still be chosen over Bowser Jr., Birdo and other very important characters.

Which other important characters? I see everyone here complaining that some major characters would be missing but I don't see any. And I disagree with everyone that wants to get rid of the Koopalings. Although I always drive with Metal Mario, I would totally miss Iggy and the others. They're some of the most important and coolest characters of the Mario 2D series!
We don't need Samus, Kirby, Pit, Fox, Pikachu, Inklings or whatever, in my opinion Link shouldn't be the pandora's box that got opened, Link should stay an exception. I even could've done without him in MK8. The Goombas can also stay out of MK as they are random mindless beings without character (the red and green koopa might be too, but at least their color has a meaning and their shells are part of MK).
However, I would welcome the addition of Captain Falcon as his stages are already in the game. And I would be glad if King Boo would make a return. Diddy not so much, because he's the mascot of Diddy Kong racing. That's as if Mario would be a character in Diddy Kong Racing. No-go!
But all in all, I'm against MK taking the same route as Smash and including all the Nintendo characters there are. The roster would become arbitrary and lose some of its charme.

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more non-Mario characters

But why? It's called Super Mario Kart, not Nintendo Allstars Kart!

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@Mister_Wu

OK so we're clear on that... but, do they need to have their own weight class? Although, characters in a racer aren't nearly as complex as, say, a fighter, and if the models have to be in there regardless as to whether or not they're a character with their own stats or not.....

Bah. I guess my only concern is what Nintendo's limits on character roster size is. If all of the other characters got in AND the Koopa Kids still had their own stats, then I'd be OK with that. But I assume there's a limit, and the Koopa Kids were seemingly taking more then their share, in my opinion.

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