Topic: Super Smash Bros. for Wii U - OT

@kkslider5552000: That was meant to the person before me who said:

"The characters on the 3DS look like they're just reusing the models from melee"

Or something like that.

@Rosalina I'm watching and commenting on that, right now. I'll post my comment here, once I finish it.

EDIT: Here's my comment:

"SON I AM DISAPPOINT!!! You took all that time to talk about Pac-man, but didn't even once mention the Tales series, when the director of the Tales games was specifically chosen by Sakurai to help with Smash Bros. Tekken Tag Team, Soul Calibur devs, people from Ridge Racer, and some of Mobile Suit Gundam's team were brought in to represent the best Namco could afford to hand Sakurai for Smash 4. Lloyd Irving or Cless from Tales of Symphonia and Tales of Phantasia, respectively, are both good potential characters, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THAT THE SMASH BROS. FIGHTING SYSTEM IS HIGHLY REMINISCENT OF THAT OF TALES OF PHANTASIA ON THE SNES! Even Symphonia has a very similar fighting system, albeit on a three-dimensional plain.

Beyond this, your predictions are spot-on all the way up UNTIL... Ness and Lucas. I see no reason to think either of these characters will be cut. Toon Link is still here, and over in Japan, Mother 3 outranks Mother 2 in popularity, making Lucas more iconic. IN FACT! Lucas was originally going to REPLACE Ness as the sole Mother rep, and it was decided against due to him having no real representation in the US and Europe.

Then comes the FE characters. Once again, I see no reason to think that Ike will be cut. He's not even that much like Marth, which was the main reason Roy was cut, in the first place, and having that heavy swordsman fighting style in the game is a blast. Why get rid of a good thing? I agree, he's more likely than most to get cut, but I think you vastly over-estimate how many characters are going to be cut, here.

Hold up. Slow your roll! Ganondorf is a series staple. Getting rid of him would be just as bad as losing any of the original four unlockables. It would be met with tons of backlash, and Ghirahim or Demise replacing him would be considered one of the worst ideas Sakurai has had since tripping. Now maybe there will be a sixth Zelda character. I doubt it, but it's by no means impossible.

I would like to point out that "because he's a clone" is a terrible reason, considering Toon Link is still in the game.

I'm still saying "no" to Ridley, but I'm willing to point out that Sakurai is a 10th level master troll. Palutena, on the other hand, I've been sure of ever since I picked up Kid Icarus, last year.

I don't think kritters are there because DK's there, since they also have Tiki enemies. Why wouldn't they just stick with the Tikis?

Yeah, no, I see no reason to think Nester is in this game, either, but for that reason, alone, I think he's very possible.

If Ghirahim is in, so is Mewtwo. That's all I've got to say about this.

I agree with the notion that Bandana Dee is now possible. I don't think he's as unlikely as we give him credit for. Had it been a generic Waddle Dee, I would laugh in their face, but I think there's a decent chance for him.

I really don't want Miis. I really, really REALLY don't want Miis. I can't serve any good reasons for him to not be here, but I REALLY don't want Miis to be playable. Almost as much as I don't want Pac-Man or Toad playable.

I don't see a reason for ROB to be cut, but I also can't see any reason for him to return, either. It's one of those "if Sakurai likes him" things, cause I can't see many people raising a fuss, either way.

Metaknight will lose his glide, but he'll be very interesting. I agree. He's coming back.

Falco's practically guaranteed to return. Wolf really SHOULD return. Wolf isn't at all clone-y, and I know people will argue this, but as a Wolf main, I can vouch that playing Fox is NOTHING like playing Wolf. His melees are completely different, and his specials serve an entirely different purpose. I have a full-scale rant for this one. I don't see a cut in SF's future. I also don't think Krystal has a big enough Japanese fan base to get in beyond a cameo or assist.

Ivysaur and Squirtle are probably done. I can think of six more deserving Poke'mon. The roster is already full.

Jiggs is one of those six. Jiggs is a perfect attendee. A lot of players would be upset, if she didn't return. I expect that the fact we haven't seen her, yet, is either proof she's unlockable, or proof that she's getting Fairy-based moves.

Game & Watch is probably coming back. He's too unique, and already a staple of the series. Getting rid of him would be beyond shameful.

Kojima stated that he doesn't know if Snake is going to be in this game. This either means we're being trolled, or more likely, he's been cut. I don't think we're getting him back, despite his uniqueness and fan base in the Smash install.

Isaac hasn't been shown as an assist, yet, so there's always that chance. I know he can have a move set, as he essentially had one, already.

Shulk seemed like such a sure thing, before, but the more I see, the less I feel like he's joining.

Captain N would be incredible. I think he actually has a shot, but I don't know if Smash will allow him. Then again. ROB.

Simon Belmont has been one of my favorites for inclusion, but I see no reason for them to consider him.

No comment on Stunt Race FX."

Why,when discussing about the chances of Ganondorf coming back,nobody thinks about Toon Ganondorf from Wind Waker HD?

It's funny how they propose Captain N and that redhead kid as possible newcomers, when in reality these characters hold no meaning or importance at all outside of the United States.

Even more, when you consider they say they don't want to play as Miis because they are too plain and then go on to talk about how awesome would it be to play as those two normal looking humans.

I would love Toon Ganondorf, thats the best one!

@ugxwolf no i didnt forget about you. I agree with nearly everything you said. I have issue with Captain N for the same reason Nester would be an issue.

Exactly