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UGXwolf

6,361. Posted:

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Aaaactually, there is. Half of the entire Kingdom Hearts series is on Nintendo handhelds, and he could be made to suit the format just fine. If Sakurai wanted a Square Enix rep, Sora would be first in line. The question is if Sakurai wanted to add a Square Enix rep, and my answer is a firm "unlikely."

Sakurai opts to keep the 3rd parties to a minimum and only true icons that everyone could recognize (Mega Man & Sonic). Even if he did I think someone from final fantasy would have a higher chance, with the two times they crossed over with a Mario Sports game. Not to mention, the last thing I'd want is Disney stamped on the box of what celebrates everything Nintendo.

I disagree. I don't think there are any Final Fantasy characters as publicly recognized as Sora is that have heavy affiliation with Nintendo. Cloud and Sephiroth might contend on a popularity basis, but as they were never involved in Nintendo, their inclusion is even MORE unlikely.

As for want, I agree, I really don't want this character. I'm just saying he's not in a position to be written off as impossible. Unlikely (as you said, Sakurai wants to keep 3rd party to a minimum), but not TOO unlikely.

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NintyMan

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It's a good idea not to be too attached to characters so that way if they don't make it into the games as playable, it doesn't somehow ruin the games for you. At the absolute bare minimum, I want all of my Brawl mains back, and with Donkey Kong, Pit, King Dedede, and Diddy Kong confirmed and Wario indirectly confirmed with Ashley and Waluigi as assist trophies, that has already been covered for me. I wouldn't even mind if my wanted characters ended up being assist trophies.

And at this point this morning, Yoshi is probably not going to be announced today. Veterans are typically announced really early.

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19Robb92

6,363. Posted:

UGXwolf wrote:

Aaaactually, there is. Half of the entire Kingdom Hearts series is on Nintendo handhelds, and he could be made to suit the format just fine. If Sakurai wanted a Square Enix rep, Sora would be first in line. The question is if Sakurai wanted to add a Square Enix rep, and my answer is a firm "unlikely."

I highly doubt that. People are constantly whining about Geno from Mario RPG. He'd most likely be in before Sora.

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UGXwolf

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UGXwolf wrote:

Aaaactually, there is. Half of the entire Kingdom Hearts series is on Nintendo handhelds, and he could be made to suit the format just fine. If Sakurai wanted a Square Enix rep, Sora would be first in line. The question is if Sakurai wanted to add a Square Enix rep, and my answer is a firm "unlikely."

I highly doubt that. People are constantly whining about Geno from Mario RPG. He'd most likely be in before Sora.

Yes, the one-off mage character that Square Enix keeps in their basement would be given to Nintendo long before their Disney-side poster boy. Besides most vocal =/= most popular. Geno is an obscure character, in relation to Sora.

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19Robb92

6,365. Posted:

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Yes, the one-off mage character that Square Enix keeps in their basement would be given to Nintendo long before their Disney-side poster boy. Besides most vocal =/= most popular. Geno is an obscure character, in relation to Sora.

SSB is about fan-service though.

The only fully handheld game that has gotten characters in SSB is Pokemon. Nothing else. So I don't see KH happening.

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DefHalan

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If Yoshi is announced, what art style do you think he will be? Yoshi's New Island, Yarn Yoshi, or the Classic look? I wouldn't mind if it was Yoshi New Island and if he had a baby riding him lol. It would be really cool if it was Yarn Yoshi

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19Robb92

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If Yoshi is announced, what art style do you think he will be? Yoshi's New Island, Yarn Yoshi, or the Classic look? I wouldn't mind if it was Yoshi New Island and if he had a baby riding him lol. It would be really cool if it was Yarn Yoshi

It'll just be the SSBB model with brighter colors. Like every veteran has been.

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UGXwolf

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19Robb92 wrote:

UGXwolf wrote:

Yes, the one-off mage character that Square Enix keeps in their basement would be given to Nintendo long before their Disney-side poster boy. Besides most vocal =/= most popular. Geno is an obscure character, in relation to Sora.

SSB is about fan-service though.

The only fully handheld game that has gotten characters in SSB is Pokemon. Nothing else. So I don't see KH happening.

Even if I were to accept your idea that Smash is about fanservice, Kingdom Hearts has WAY more fans than Super Mario RPG. Again, it's one game vs. eight. Not only that, but one game on one console vs. eight games spanning eight different consoles, two of which just so happen to be PS2 and Nintendo DS, the two most popular gaming systems of all time. If Sakurai wanted a Square character, Sora would be the first one on the list. Geno wouldn't follow for some time, regardless of what the surprisingly loud fanbase would have you believe. In terms of popularity and fandom, Kingdom Hearts trumps Super Mario RPG by so much, it hurts.

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If Yoshi is announced, what art style do you think he will be? Yoshi's New Island, Yarn Yoshi, or the Classic look? I wouldn't mind if it was Yoshi New Island and if he had a baby riding him lol. It would be really cool if it was Yarn Yoshi

Any art style is welcome as long as he is carrying a baby (different baby for different Yoshi color)

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19Robb92

6,370. Posted:

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Even if I were to accept your idea that Smash is about fanservice, Kingdom Hearts has WAY more fans than Super Mario RPG. Again, it's one game vs. eight. Not only that, but one game on one console vs. eight games spanning eight different consoles, two of which just so happen to be PS2 and Nintendo DS, the two most popular gaming systems of all time. If Sakurai wanted a Square character, Sora would be the first one on the list. Geno wouldn't follow for some time, regardless of what the surprisingly loud fanbase would have you believe. In terms of popularity and fandom, Kingdom Hearts trumps Super Mario RPG by so much, it hurts.

What makes Geno more likely is that he's been in a Nintendo game on a home console.

The Kingdom Hearts games have nothing to relate to Nintendo & have only been on their handhelds. Of course the KH series is more popular, they've made a ridiculous amount of games by now. That doesn't make Sora any more likely though. The latest installment isn't even releasing on a Nintendo platform. :P

The fanbase for KH on a Nintendo home console is probably next to zero.

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PaperLucario

6,371. Posted:

UGXwolf wrote:

19Robb92 wrote:

UGXwolf wrote:

Yes, the one-off mage character that Square Enix keeps in their basement would be given to Nintendo long before their Disney-side poster boy. Besides most vocal =/= most popular. Geno is an obscure character, in relation to Sora.

SSB is about fan-service though.

The only fully handheld game that has gotten characters in SSB is Pokemon. Nothing else. So I don't see KH happening.

Even if I were to accept your idea that Smash is about fanservice, Kingdom Hearts has WAY more fans than Super Mario RPG. Again, it's one game vs. eight. Not only that, but one game on one console vs. eight games spanning eight different consoles, two of which just so happen to be PS2 and Nintendo DS, the two most popular gaming systems of all time. If Sakurai wanted a Square character, Sora would be the first one on the list. Geno wouldn't follow for some time, regardless of what the surprisingly loud fanbase would have you believe. In terms of popularity and fandom, Kingdom Hearts trumps Super Mario RPG by so much, it hurts.

Ice Climbers were only in one game over a decade ago and are pretty obscure, yet they showed up playable in 2 smash games.
If we we're to add characters based on the amount of fans or popularity, let's start adding the likes of Master Chief, Harry Mason, Simon Belemont, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Pac-Man, or some generic character from Call of Duty, among dozens of other franchises.
Let's also not forget where the major Kingdom Hearts titles are on. Kingdom Hearts 1-2: PS2, HD Remakes of said games: PS3, not even the upcoming Kingdom Hearts 3 is being considered on the Wii U, but on the other two systems. Also it's not like Nintendo would factor a console's success into picking a character anyways, especially the PS2.

Even if we we're to forget all of that (cause of course, Solid Snake managed to be in Brawl), Sora couldn't be put in Smash 4 because to add him would mean having to put in all sorts of Disney properties, and unlike Solid Snake where they could trade guns for explosives, there is no way one could remove all the Disney influence from the franchise and keep the same feel of the character.

So if there was to be a Sqaure representative, it would have to be someone from Final Fantasy, however the main entries don't have much history on nintendo systems, so they don't have much to work with outside of something generic like a dark mage, So with that in mind, the best they could do with Square would be a Bravely Default character, but since that released only recently this year... yeah there's nothing much left.

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NintyMan

6,372. Posted:

Yoshi has not been revealed today, so now we'll probably have to wait until summer.

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MegaStoneSmash91

6,373. Posted:

I'm disappointed, but I suppose there was always the possibility of this. Looks like the Diddy Kong reveal hasn't changed Sakurai's character announcement schedule. Until summer then, I suppose. It will give people plenty of time to make even more "where's Yoshi?" posts on Miiverse.

It would be nice if someone could tell me what I'm looking at in the Pic of the Day, though.

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TheGreatGamer

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Yoshi has not been revealed today, so now we'll probably have to wait until summer.

No, there is no pic of the day today, that's why. Wait for Monday.

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6,375. Posted:

I'm not surprised by the lack of a Yoshi reveal. I kinda saw it coming.

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@TheGreatGamer...Ever heard of the 3DS Thread? :P
@Dreamy Mabye for the crappy Yoshi New Island release?

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But... but... It's the month of Yoshi....

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Tsuchinoko

6,378. Posted:

The reveal is about the same time as always. I remenber the Diddy reveal came in the evening, Japan time. Lets just wait a bit longer

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@TheGreatGamer...Ever heard of the 3DS Thread? :P
@Dreamy Mabye for the crappy Yoshi New Island release?

I wish I looked there first.

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Tsuchinoko

6,380. Posted:

I don't kn ow about the other sites, but the Japanese smash site hasn't been updated yet

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