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Ernest_The_Crab

@SCAR392

I'm pretty sure they'll use the Skyward Sword incarnation of Link. Last game they used TP's Link (art wise). The one's before were both Ocarina of Time I believe with Melee having Young Link as well. They changed Young Link to Toon Link in Brawl which will most likely carry over due to the soon to be released remake of Wind Waker.

That means the most recent incarnation of Link, that will be the main one, is Skyward Sword unless somehow the "new" Zelda game we're waiting for comes out before the "new" Smash Bros. game and/or they decide to reduce the character set to having only one version Link.

Hopefully, they do reduce it down to one though. Nintendo has bunch of other characters they can use without needing to resort to clone characters, especially from their new IPs (Sakura Samurai, Dillon's Rolling Western, Pushmo, Xenoblade, etc).

Still hoping for a FreakyForms map that will import my creations and have them randomly messing around in the level (obviously for the 3DS version of the game).

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SCRAPPER392

@Ernest_The_Crab
That makes sense that they would use the newest one. There was a toon Zelda and Ganondorf, but no one wants those toon versions. That just gives more reason to rid of the young toon Link.
All we can really do is wait. They know what's best for their own game.
I don't see those 3DS characters making it in the game as full playable characters though. There's other ones that were surprisingly absent or present vs. characters I would consider more important. i.e. Some of the assist trophies. I would have rather had Little Mac or Saki rather than Sonic or Snake. Those characters didn't really fit, and they ended up being pointless additions IMO.

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Snagrio

I seriously wonder what's going to happen in the Fire Emblem division. I think it's obvious that Marth will stay, but what about Ike? Will he be replaced by Chrom and/or Lucina or will they "coexist?" What about Roy? (Though I've about given up on the idea of him coming back).

Another thing I ponder is if Marth's voice will change to English, since he now has a Western game release. Not sure what I feel about that possibility...

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Jeremyx7

As far as Fire Emblem Characters go I would love to see them put different class types in Smash Bros besides the typical Lord Class Characters. Although Chrom should be in the next one because he's just so boss! But imagine others classes such as a knight, mage, or even a archer class. That would be pretty sweet if balanced properly. Say'ri or Panne would be awesome too.

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SCRAPPER392

Just remember that they aren't planning on getting 50 characters in the game. They prioritize and choose which characters are the most wanted. We would have 35 Mario characters playable if they just threw every character in the game. Same goes for Metroid, F-Zero, etc.
i.e. I want a Goomba and an Octorok as a playable character = not gonna happen
I want the mail delivery guy from Zelda to be playable = not gonna happen

BTW I don't actually want these characters to be playable per se, but I understand why or why not.

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Kaeobais

Namco came out and said they think the current roster is about as much as they want. They'll simply remove and add some characters, and improve on the existing ones.

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BandG

the fact is that if two equally skilled players went head to head, the one with the "top tier character" would win

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not necessarily top tier, but overpowered

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SCRAPPER392

Blakerton wrote:

the fact is that if two equally skilled players went head to head, the one with the "top tier character" would win

If you consider any of the characters 'top tier', than yes. Luck plays a part in Smash Bros. fights if you haven't noticed.
I've beaten people playing as Jigglypuff that were just as challenging as when I play as Samus. It's more realizing what risks you can take. Donkey Konk or King Deedeedee don't fly away as easily as Jigglypuff, so you're more likely to run into a fight and go berserk. It's more the way you play than it is "they're just better".

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Jeremyx7

Blakerton wrote:

the fact is that if two equally skilled players went head to head, the one with the "top tier character" would win

Wrong, this is not a fact you are spewing out, but merely a presumption based on nothing other than your own made up ideals about why certain types of players win. Time and time again I've seen your quote proven wrong with people equally skilled beating each other with all characters from brawl all the time. Never the same results because in truth the game is very very well balanced for all types of play styles.

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Snagrio

Kaeobais wrote:

Namco came out and said they think the current roster is about as much as they want. They'll simply remove and add some characters, and improve on the existing ones.

That sounds...boring...

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Happy_Mask

Namco can't decide that, I think it was sakurai's job.

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Ernest_The_Crab

@SCAR392 I kind of want to see Shulk in the game though. He could have status disorder based moveset (since his skills seem heavily oriented in that direction). He could also use the shield technique as some kind of counter (but it'd look cooler for one) with a larger range than most counters, no damage dealt back and a high knockback (though maybe balance it out with a shorter duration in which you can be hit).

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I think assist trophies are ok. It makes it possible for characters that aren't popular enough, but still are very important to make helpful cameos.
I wonder what the roster is very much so myself, but characters showing up with altered moves of an already existing character is ridiculous.
Mewtwo was way better than Lucario. If they want to add another Pokemon, I say bring back Mewtwo, and replace Lucario with a different Pokemon.
If they are going to have 2 Link characters, I say having the Skyward Sword one, and have a young Link from Majoras Mask that switch between a Zora, Goron, Deku, and Fierce Deity Link as his Final Smash. There's just so many incarnations that it's very hard to see who they will actually put in the game... I just don't want any BS in the game.
They think up these things very clearly, and make sure everything is top notch, so we shouldn't have to worry, especially with Namco being champs and helping out.

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Kaeobais

Happy_Mask wrote:

Namco can't decide that, I think it was sakurai's job.

Actually, I was wrong. Sakurai was actually the one who said it. http://www.screwattack.com/news/sakurai-feels-super-smash-bro...

That said, it's not definite. He just says he feels like they may have hit the limit, and should focus on quality now rather than quantity. Which kinda sucks, but at the same time may make for a better game overall.

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FuzzyPickles94

WingedFish wrote:

I seriously wonder what's going to happen in the Fire Emblem division. I think it's obvious that Marth will stay, but what about Ike? Will he be replaced by Chrom and/or Lucina or will they "coexist?" What about Roy? (Though I've about given up on the idea of him coming back).

Another thing I ponder is if Marth's voice will change to English, since he now has a Western game release. Not sure what I feel about that possibility...

I think we will see three Fire Emblem reps; those being Marth, Ike and Roy.

Ike will stay due to being the main Lord of FE9 and FE10 (Micaiah was second fiddle to Ike) and his massive popularity in Brawl. Not to mention that I think everyone from Brawl will be planned to return and I don't think Sakurai would want to cut anyone.

Roy is likely because he is among the Top 10 most wanted characters for Smash 4 (and according to Snakey/ChronoBound of GameFAQs/NeoGAF/Smashboards, the most wanted character in Japan, also highly requested in the West but to a lesser extent) and that he was planned for Brawl. I think Sakurai would be interested in bringing him back.

Kaeobais wrote:

Actually, I was wrong. Sakurai was actually the one who said it. http://www.screwattack.com/news/sakurai-feels-super-smash-bro...

That said, it's not definite. He just says he feels like they may have hit the limit, and should focus on quality now rather than quantity. Which kinda sucks, but at the same time may make for a better game overall.

I highly doubt that thirty-nine characters is the limit. Sakurai planned to have forty-six characters (maybe forty-seven if the Plusle & Minun rumor is true) in Brawl, but had to cut them (Roy and Mewtwo had victory files, making it likely that they were dropped due to time constraints). Plus when he said "we've reached the limit", he was probably referring to Smash 4's roster since I doubt he's for lots of cuts.

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What plusle and minun rumor? The one where it said they originally planned to have them playable? If so i thought that was an actual fact.

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Snagrio

@astarisborn94 Really? I knew that Roy is one that a lot of people want back (including me), but the most wanted character in Japan? If that's true, then his chances of returning don't seem as slim as I once thought. Wonder if he'll get an English voice like Marth possibly might. Hope he does and that they give him more personality. I don't know what he's like in his game, but I've always seen him as cocky (in a likeable way).

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SCRAPPER392

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Lucario and Mewtwo's movesets are too similar, but Mewtwo is better IMO. They probably ditched him in favor of a newer Pokemon to be more relevant. I wouldn't doubt the Plusle and Minun rumor, they were basically the new version of Pikachu and were popular 3rd gen. Everyone including myself wanted them on the game and TCG back in the day.
Any characters that are clone movesets are going to have to change though.
I'm thinking Toon Link will be replaced by a different Link from the past, than the cel one from Skyward Sword and the Wii U will show up as the adult Link.
Hopefully, the Starfox characters will get changed movesets.
If there's like 50 characters, that will be the best thing ever, with HD, surround sound, improved physics, more custom options, etc.

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