Topic: Super Smash Bros. for Wii U - OT

So Sumia won't be in it?!?

I think a lot of people make the mistake of thinking that playable is the only way to represent a character, and that's because the other forms of representation don't come into play during competitive gameplay. Even so, characters with high notoriety, but no moveset, can easily be assist trophies and just have one move. There's nothing wrong with this. Massive characters that shouldn't be playable could be stage hazards or bosses. Like Rayquaza, Ridley, or Kraid. Poke'mon have tons of representation in the Poke'balls and don't forget trophies. Playable slots shouldn't be given to just any character, and should really be saved for the deserving ones. For the best and most interesting that have full move sets that can be utilized. I know a lot of people want Pac-Man, but why can't he just be an assist trophy, since Lloyd fits the playable character role so much better? And you know what? If Lloyd were an assist trophy, I wouldn't really be all that butthurt. Why can't Ridley be a stage hazard or a boss or an assist trophy. He fits all of these roles far better than that of a playable character. All I'm saying is that there are more ways to represent a character or series than as playable characters.

I completely agree with this. Unfortunately, some people (or most) see "their" character as only playable and nothing else. This is a reason why I tend to dislike certain parts of the Smash Community.

EDIT: When I saw Ashley, I was perfectly fine when she was an Assist Trophy, yet people are still asking for her to be playable.

Same. Not every character deserves that shot as playable. But of all characters, if Little Mac retains his status as an Assist Trophy, I will be very upset.

I don't think we should assume that Ashley and Kat & Ana can't BOTH be assist trophies, even though it does seem a bit unlikely, considering how few of them there were in Brawl. That said, I do think repeating a majority of the assist trophies just wouldn't be fun.

As for Little Mac, I think he'd be similar to Wii Fit Trainer (ergo, totally deserves a spot) in that he be a fairly strong, pretty fast, light-weight character with very limited range and a lot of mobility. The main argument against him is that all he does is punch and dodge, but so what? All Fox did, before Smash 64 was fly an Arwing. That wasn't even remotely part of his move set, though. And all Captain Falcon did before Smash 64 was drive a stupidly fast anti-gravity race car. Sakurai gave them move sets. Why can't Little Mac have one?

Also, Mii as an assist trophy would be awesome, and if they give Dixie her own slot, I wouldn't mind King K. Rool being an assist trophy, either. (I still insist that DK needs more rep. Maybe the Snowmad leader can be a stage hazard or a boss? Might be cool?)

Well, a stage of pushmo/pullbox should be awesome too.

In stage builder there needs to be an option to draw your own background.

So one thing that concerns me so far in this game is Olimar.

I've noticed that in all of Olimar's appearances, he's only had up to 3 pikmin alongside him at most.

Even in his first footage of him in action, the trailer revealing Rosalina, shows him accompanied by no more than 3 pikmin.

Has his pikmin limit been reduced? As a person who mains with Olimar, this is a bit concerning to me.

Also, there appears to be a lack of Rock & Winged pikmin entirely in this game. And it can't be because they're too new because this installment of Smash Bros. seems based off of some of the most recent releases seeing as we have stages based off of Pikmin 3, Fire Emblem Awakening, and Sonic Lost World. Not to mention references to Animal Crossing New Leaf and Ashley has her updated appearance from Game & Wario, also recent games.

But Lucario isn't tripping over his shoelaces, so what's going on in here, is he falling or something.........OR IS HE TRIPPING!?!?!?!?!?!

I doubt it'd happen, but my hope is that the Rock and Winged Pikmin will be with one of the new captains as a second Pikmin rep. Also never noticed that Olimar has only 3 or less in all those screenshots, which is a little concerning.

However Olimar always picks 3 Pikmin automatically at the beginning of a match, so maybe Sakurai just never bothered to have him pluck more? Plus unless he got some other method of recovery, Olimar would be almost unusable with only 3 Pikmin, and his throwing special would become incredibly risky. And I don't think Sakurai would nerf a character so severely like that, I hope...

Now that I just got a Wii U... I'm starting to lose interest in the 3DS version.... I'll still get it but I'm not buying it on day one. I'm definitely getting the Wii U version on day one.

I seem to recall that that's a teetering animation. He's on the edge of the stage.

That's awesome! From what I see, I think it uses Special Rend.

Also, I hope Dialga is a Poké ball assist too. Dialga is like my favorite legendary Pokémon.

I like how NPC are so detailed that they can be mistaken for playable characters

Fun fact: while the official spelling does include an accent, this accent is actually incorrect. The correct spelling actually includes an apostrophe, as the name is a contraction of the Japanese words "Poketto" and "Monsuta," meaning "Pocket Monsters." It is also arguable this could be a contraction of the English words, but either way, the accent is actually completely unnecessary.