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SomeBitTripFan

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@WingedFish: Yeah, it looked pretty wrong to me also. It would help if Marth didn't have that look on his face.

@OdnetninAges: I make the same mistake myself. It's led to some very strange sentences.

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3,322. Posted:

DestinyMan wrote:

@GamecubeMan: There was already a Yoshi's Island stage in Brawl, and before that there were two Yoshi's Story stages, so Yoshi's Story has actually been the tradition. However, I think it's very possible we'll get a Yarn Yoshi stage on the Wii U version and a Yoshi's New Island stage on the 3DS one to celebrate the two big Yoshi games next year.

Oh its just that the artstyles are really similar! But I agree it would be nice if Nintendo had some stages that represented their newest games in the same regard of seeing newer characters from their lastest entries (Chrom).

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Romeo

3,323. Posted:

BlueBlurIxM wrote:

Romeo wrote:

i am so excited for this game :)
i also think it's great that there'll be a Wii U and a 3DS version, but im a little concered... i hope they won't dumb it down so it'll work on the 3DS as well

they should just (if necessary) release 2 "different" games.... if the 3DS can't handle certain characters/moves, then just make them exclusive to the Wii U, but that's not what they're doing
the 3DS has certain limitations... and the Wii U version will suffer because of that

i'm sure both versions will be fun, but for a fighting game the console version will always be the definitive one

it looks pretty slow as well, gameplay isn't nearly fast enough... im afraid they'll turn smash bros. into a completely casual game..
which would result in smash bros. not being fit for the eSports competitive market... i'd hate to see that happen.. i don't want this game to be dumbed down and 100% casual

i want this game to be great.. i want it to be an amazing fighting game which will replace Meele, etc.

The game isn't done jet. And the gameplay you saw is from the game in an early stage.

unfortunately that still doesn't change most of the facts

1) it was said that the Wii U and 3DS version of the game will have the same roster. it was also mentioned that the 3DS has certain limitations and therefore certain characters won't make it into the game.
that automatically means that we won't see those characters in the Wii U version

2) cross-play between the Wii U and the 3DS version won't be possible. But nintendo still insists on having the same roster for both versions.. which is pretty stupid tbh.
if cross-play would be supported.. i'd understand. But this makes no sense whatsoever

3) there will still be many casual elements in this new Super Smash Bros., it's just like DestinyMan said:
"Also, Sakurai has said that these new games will combine both of Melee's and Brawl's fighting styles, so it won't be completely "casual" in that sense."

with this announcement + recent news + some of the early footage we've so far (+gameplay speed)... it certainly looks to be marketed towards the casual players... which i'd absolutely HATE

as much as i love Nintendo... i have to admit that Nintendo is still behind (by a lot) when it comes to online-play and other things we'd consider standard in 2013

it's a next-gen fighting game.. and it'll be lots of fun, of course, but what about:

  • the server-stability?
  • friend-system / friend-requests
  • ingame-chat // party-chat
  • party voice-chat (a program like teamspeak)

-rankings // leagues // win/loss-ratio // proper matchmaking-system // etc.
i love this franchise and i know i'll love this game as well, but why can't we expect rankings, leagues, proper matchmaking, etc.?

i'll be playing this game a lot and it'll get absolutely frustrating to continuously crush bad players. there is nothing worse than getting matched up against weak/bad players even though you're way better.
if im good i expect to play vs good players.. and ONLY vs good players, everything else is a waste of time and no fun at all
(they should take a look at the starcraft 2 matchmaking-system, rankings/leagues, etc.)

there is NO way for a grandmaster player to play vs some bronze-noob, which is awesome. something like this needs to happen for smash bros. as well

  • eSports // tournaments
    why can't Nintendo just accept the fact that people LOVE their games, but at the same time LOVE competitive-play. why does it always have to be "oh.. you should totally play for fun and after 60mins you should stop playing and go outside"

all these messages "you have been playing for quite some time now. you should take a break" -> annoying
just support the eSports scene.. be proud of the fact that people will embrace your game, maybe include some weekly online-tournaments system in the game, etc.

im totally fine with people playing this game casually, but for me.. playing competitively is so much more fun... just give us options and stop dumbing down this game for the casual market

don't worry... rant is almost over, just one last thing..

please STOP this whole "protect the children"-thing... it's so frustrating and annoying. NOBODY cares, just let us add each other via Miiverse (3DS), let us write and talk to each other, etc.
it's getting really annoying.

and no... im not a troll, i love Nintendo (it's my favorite company in fact) + all their amazing franchises
i buy all their games and will continue to do so, i just wish they'd finally take things a step further and get with the times

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BlueBlurIxM

3,324. Posted:

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First. I only ment the speed of the game, nothing more. I only forgot to delete the rest from your quote, my bad.
Second. Nintendo was always like this and won't change anytime soon. :|

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Happy_Mask

3,325. Posted:

there is NO way for a grandmaster player to play vs some bronze-noob, which is awesome. something like this needs to happen for smash bros. as well

I want variety, whether I'm the one getting my butt whooped or the opponent is. You should focus more on fun bro.

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Romeo

3,326. Posted:

like i said.. playing competitively is fun for me
i have no desire playing vs people who are much worse than me, what's the point of that?

variety? that's no challenge
i want to play vs people on my lvl or better.. so there's a challenge and i can improve
what's the point of playing vs noobs?

"cool, i crushed him in 2minutes... i am so good now" ?!

since i'd also love to play vs players who are better than me, that also means they'd have to play vs someone who's not as good as them, which would also be the case for me and everyone else
and that's totally fine... as long as there is no HUGE skill difference.... playing 10 out of 20 games vs people who are 10 times worse than me?
that's horrible, there's nothing worse than that in a multiplayer game... that's no variety, that's just a really bad matchmaking-system

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WingedSnagret

3,327. Posted:

@Romeo If I may offer you advice, complaining about things you know won't be added will just make things worse. Just be happy that there is a game where Nintendo's most iconic characters come together to duke it out to begin with. That in of itself is awesome enough in my book.

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SomeBitTripFan

3,328. Posted:

@Wonder_Mask: I, and likely other gamers, don't find it fun to be continuously batted around like a sandbag. Matchmaking would improve the online experience by allowing players to figure out how to get the edge on their opponent. It's an all around more natural and enjoyable way to improve your skills.

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NintyMan

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"The giant wind mill in the right-hand side of Windy Hill. It keeps on turning even though it can't fit in the screen, so you'll find yourself in trouble if you're on it for too long."

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DestinyMan wrote:

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"The giant wind mill in the right-hand side of Windy Hill. It keeps on turning even though it can't fit in the screen, so you'll find yourself in trouble if you're on it for too long."

a stage with windmills now huh?

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Romeo

3,331. Posted:

WingedSnagret wrote:

@Romeo If I may offer you advice, complaining about things you know won't be added will just make things worse. Just be happy that there is a game where Nintendo's most iconic characters come together to duke it out to begin with. That in of itself is awesome enough in my book.

how exactly do we know that none of these things will be implemented?
it's not asking for much... and it sure as hell isn't hard to implement

i don't want any of these irrelevant system features like social network, "upload videos to facebook", skype-calls (don't need that on my console...), "share", or play a game while downloading it, etc.

all i am asking for are great games + basic features.. i buy almost every Nintendo game and i respect them so much, but when it comes to basic online features.. we shouldn't go so easy on them.
a proper matchmaking system, friend-system, voice party-chat, ingame chat, etc.... NONE of that is hard to implement. the game will come out in 2014.. all of these basic features should be available, there's really no excuse.

Nintendo fans often say "don't need those, it's all about the games" when it comes to features the ps4/x1 offer, and i agree. But basic features like these are necessary for any game that relies heavily on it's online part. otherwise gaming online will just be a lonely experience.

in online games.. playing together with others, adding friends, talking with each other, etc. is always more fun than just playing game after game without getting to know anyone.
plus.. tell me, what's so hard about implementing a real matchmaking-system? how am i supposed to constantly improve myself if i'm getting matched up vs worse players 50% of the time. it'll be such an inconsistence experience..
in every game you'll get matched against players on your lvl, why is it impossible for Nintendo to implement something like this as well?

and no... i will obviously still buy the game and i will enjoy it, i just hope that they'll start implementing some of these basic online features. it'd be way more fun that way.

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3,332. Posted:

I may or may not have seen a character leak for Smash 4... I don't wanna post it and look stupid so I'm just gonna say my response to it...
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TheGreatGamer

3,333. Posted:

WrappedInBlack wrote:

I may or may not have seen a character leak for Smash 4... I don't wanna post it and look stupid so I'm just gonna say my response to it...
"Do you believe in Chaos Control? Do you believe in Chaos Control!?"
Friday will totes be a Zelda Char...

just show it, everybody here is totally benign so they won't call you stupid

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NintyMan

3,334. Posted:

WrappedInBlack wrote:

I may or may not have seen a character leak for Smash 4... I don't wanna post it and look stupid so I'm just gonna say my response to it...
"Do you believe in Chaos Control? Do you believe in Chaos Control!?"
Friday will totes be a Zelda Char...

After being fooled by the Mewtwo hoax, I wouldn't believe it. Also, I very much doubt there will be another Sonic character. Sakurai wants to keep third-party characters as few as possible, such as keeping it to the big names. There's been some really good Smash Bros. 3DS hoaxes too.

Now Zelda, on the other hand, will be announced at some point.

I'm really looking forward to seeing something announced tomorrow to celebrate the Japanese release of Super Mario 3D World, whether it be a new stage, item, or character.

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TheGreatGamer

3,335. Posted:

@DestinyMan I honestly think that Knuckles and Shadow will be a great addition to the game

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WingedSnagret

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DestinyMan wrote:

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"The giant wind mill in the right-hand side of Windy Hill. It keeps on turning even though it can't fit in the screen, so you'll find yourself in trouble if you're on it for too long."

Hmm, sounds like the moving platforms in the 1-2 stage of Brawl's Super Mario stage where you could get KO'D for standing on them too long.

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3,337. Posted:

WrappedInBlack wrote:

I may or may not have seen a character leak for Smash 4... I don't wanna post it and look stupid so I'm just gonna say my response to it...
"Do you believe in Chaos Control? Do you believe in Chaos Control!?"
Friday will totes be a Zelda Char...

Weather fake or not i am interested in seeing this. Could you post a link to it please?

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Happy_Mask

3,338. Posted:

SomeBitTripFan wrote:

@Wonder_Mask: I, and likely other gamers, don't find it fun to be continuously batted around like a sandbag. Matchmaking would improve the online experience by allowing players to figure out how to get the edge on their opponent. It's an all around more natural and enjoyable way to improve your skills.

I forgot to mention that the ranking system would likely lead to more tier crap. Over half the people I fought in Brawl used only Metaknight. If they emphasize "skill" now, there will be another decrease in the range of characters used online. I don't wanna fight a million Foxes or Metaknights. >.>

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^People use Brawl Fox? :O

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WrappedInBlack

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@DestinyMan @TheGreatGamer
Actually it wasn't a Sonic character... but I think I saw it on here too and not just tumblr... so u guys already know bout it... It was Ness and Jigglypuff... just incase that wasn't here

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