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Mickey

CapnPancakes wrote:

Keep in mind that we've barely seen the game actually running. From the footage i've seen though, I think there's a pretty noticeable difference between SSB4 and Brawl.

Again, I'm talking about the character models.

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Orngeblu

Mickey wrote:

Hey, Sonic's back. That's pleasant to hear. How does he look? The same? Well now I know what I'm going to call this game! Super Smash Bros. Brawl 2.0.

Seriously, we're moving to the next generation of consoles. And it's a much more significant jump than Gamecube to Wii (at least, for the Wii U), I'd think that the characters would reflect that. I mean, don't you remember this?:

That was impressive! They all (Kirby notwithstanding) looked new and interesting and (for me at least) it got me pumped for the game! Now with SSB4, if they did the same style of trailer, there would be little to no difference in how they looked. AND BEFORE YOU BEGIN WRITING YOUR REPLY: NO, I'M NOT SAYING THE GAME IS GOING TO BE BAD. ACTUALLY, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AWESOME! IMAGINE THAT. LIKING SOMETHING WHILE ADMITTING THAT YOU DON'T LIKE EVERYTHING ABOUT IT. YOU SHOULD TRY THAT SOMETIME, PERSON WHO WAS GOING TO REPLY. Now that I've got that out of the way: It's hardly a deal-breaker for me, but it still bothers me.

It's ok, I feel the same way. From the looks of it now, it's a Brawl 2.0, and I don't expect anything more than a Brawl 2.0, not until I see it.

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Blur_Escalation

Hmm.. I was expecting Sonic on 'Sonic Lost Word' release day..
If I had to daydream I would image that another Sonic Character will be revealed then!
But I think it won't happen.

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SCRAPPER392

@Mickey
My imagination recognizes retro Sonic and modern Sonic as the same, because it's technically the same character, and the difference isn't that much to begin with.

You expect Sonic to have fur or something? How do you expect to have completely different models when the character hasn't changed at all?

EDIT: BTW, my point was that he's basically been the same for over 20 years. Maybe if you clarify exactly what you expect, people will understand better.

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Mickey

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There. That is what I expect. And how do I expect "completely different" (didn't put it that way but whatever) models when the character hasn't changed "at all"? First: You're right. The character hasn't changed. It's just that the original model from Brawl wasn't a very good representation of Sonic. Now, I could sit here, typing out every subtle difference between Sonic from Brawl and Sonic from the games, and it wouldn't make any difference. Quite frankly, it'd be a waste of time. The point I'm trying to convey to you here is that I'm disappointed that there isn't much of a difference between a lot of SSB4's characters and Brawl's characters in terms of looks.

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@Mickey
Ya, and that's exactly my point that he can't really be changed much unless you want to add fur, or redesign the character.

He's a simple character. I get what you mean my graphical improvements, but Smash Bros. was basically a launch game and they spect more time on Brawl than Melee. There's only so much graphic fidelity you can achieve on such simple characters. From what I can tell, you're pretty much asking the characters to be completely different.

Sonic looks the same in Lost World as he does here.

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Mickey

@SCAR392 No, that wasn't what I was saying. My point is that the character himself hasn't changed, it's just that the Brawl version of the character looks different from the regular version of the character. It's like Bowser from Brawl. They changed the character model slightly to look more like the actual character. It didn't have to be a completely different character model, it could've just been a subtle change, but all they did was make the character more colorful like a couple of other characters in the game that we've seen so far.

I won't ask you to look at Sonic through a looking glass and spot every little difference, but what I will ask is that you understand that there is a difference.

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Norik

Sonic is cool and all, but Nintendo needs to:

1. Give us Captain Falcon, Falco, and Marth already. These three characters alone account for nearly 40% of the total Melee competitive scene...
2. Make the game more like melee. Seriously, just watch:

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MrWalkieTalkie

What really excites me is the fact that there STILL hasn't been any actual newcomer announcements since the 3 that were revealed at E3! Anything can happen with the newcomers!

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Captain_Balko

There is something I still haven't gotten over - the name of the game. "Super Smash Bros"... Really? I have Super Smash Bros. It's for my Nintendo 64.

This isn't a reboot, why is the name being rebooted? Is its full name "Super Smash Bros for Wii U" like the banner says on the website?

Why not call them "Super Smash Bros Wii U" and "Super Smash Bros 3DS", then? Or even "Super Smash Bros U" or "Super Smash Bros 3D"? The only difference in terms of the name is that the logo appears red on 3DS and blue on Wii U. Even "Super Smash Bros Blue" and "Super Smash Bros Red" would make more sense than the same name twice.

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MrWalkieTalkie

Eh, everyone just calls it Smash 4.

So I've noticed that characters are being revealed more and more frequently. Peach, and then soon enough Toon Link, and here we are a week after that with Sonic! This can mean that...

1. The game is coming out sooner than we think.

or

2. There will be a lot more characters than we expected!

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Orngeblu

Norik wrote:

Sonic is cool and all, but Nintendo needs to:

1. Give us Captain Falcon, Falco, and Marth already. These three characters alone account for nearly 40% of the total Melee competitive scene...
2. Make the game more like melee. Seriously, just watch:

But, that's not Melee, and none of that is possible in Melee because Melee doesn't have a "turbo mode" like in Project: M, and just so you know the video is definitely using TAS, (Which stands for Tool Assisted Speedrun) but it still does look impressive and fun to watch! :3

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool-assisted_speedrun

But, showing that as a reason to make Smash 4 more like Melee isn't a very good, not that I wouldn't like a more melee-like game. I'd love it.

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SCRAPPER392

I'd say Nintendo's description of "Melee combined with Brawl" is pretty accurate. The graphics reflect more of Brawl, but the gameplay looks like it will be more competitive/hardcore like Melee, besides the final smash moves.

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SCAR392 wrote:

I'd say Nintendo's description of "Melee combined with Brawl" is pretty accurate. The graphics reflect more of Brawl, but the gameplay looks like it will be more competitive/hardcore like Melee, besides the final smash moves.

It looks exactly like Brawl to me. :I

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shingi_70

So I played some Brawl today and I have to agree with @Mickey about the game looking different (a bit better even) compared to WIi U. Upon further inspection its less of Brawl but more of Nintendo;s desgin Philosphy. The Late Gamecube to Mid Wii U games have a very different style than the Wii insert name here/New Super Mario Bros games had.

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While not all games of that era looked like that alot of the mainline versions of Nintendo Franchises had a certain style to them that went away with Late Wii early 3DS era.

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Happy_Mask

Sony_70 wrote:

So I played some Brawl today and I have to agree with @Mickey about the game looking different (a bit better even) compared to WIi U. Upon further inspection its less of Brawl but more of Nintendo;s desgin Philosphy. The Late Gamecube to Mid Wii U games have a very different style than the Wii insert name here/New Super Mario Bros games had.

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While not all games of that era looked like that alot of the mainline versions of Nintendo Franchises had a certain style to them that went away with Late Wii early 3DS era.

Those were their attempts to utilize both systems' capabilities to their maximums. The WiiU and 3DS are giving them a lot more wiggle room since they are on par (at least) with modern systems, so they don't really need to worry as much about graphics at the moment. :3

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