@MetalK9 Truth be told, probably the same reason (well kinda) that Wolf got cut, but Falco's still here. Dark Pit (Falco) being more cloney than Dark Samus (Wolf) would mean she'd need her own moveset or at least need to be more different from Samus than Dark Pit is from Pit. They'd have time to do all that for Pit because it wouldn't take so long, but Wolf and Dark Samus would take longer due to needing entirely different animations and rules.
I'm glad you can see Dark Samus as less of a clone like others with her own moveset and I can see where you're coming, but I just thought more beamed based special moves would be enough along with having tight differences between Samus, like the differences between Falco and Fox. All I thought clones did was basically change the feel of the original character while giving the clone a different attitude/characteristic and feel of gameplay. For example; apart from small animation differences, Fox's Side Strong is shorter than Falco's Side Strong. Fox is faster, but Falco jumps higher. Fox's Up-Special has better range, but Falco can kick his Deflector all while Falco attitude acts differently to Fox's. Because that's what I see between Pit and Dark Pit. That's what I kinda would expect from Dark Samus because she basically came from Samus. I would like a completely new moveset, but just looking at Dark Samus tells me it would turn out like Samus being Fox/Pit and Dark Samus being Falco/Dark Pit instead of being completely different like Wolf.
I'm not massively concerned overall, I just want another good rep for Metroid that isn't Ridley.
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Well the PoTD wasn't that new. It just confirmed a returning stage from brawl.
Well, I liked Castle Siege, so I'm happy. Plus, at least we're actually getting info on the Wii U version, considering that news for it has pretty much been nonexistent in recent weeks.
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So which is more cloney, Dark Pit or Lucina? Ignore Dark Pit being literally a clone of Pit of course. Weirdly enough, Dr Mario seems to be the least cloney out of the three, yet he's still Mario. Dark Pit and Lucina are different characters at least.
@SockoMario: Wait, I thought Sakurai said he wasn't going to show anything new in the near future? I consider showing a new retro stage for the Wii U version as something new. Looks like I'll be getting up for the POTD again!
I like Dark Pit as a character, so I'm still going to play him quite a bit. Also, why do people in the poll hate Diddy Kong?
I can't understand the hate for Diddy either. He's such a unique and fun character. Though I'm probably being bias since Donkey Kong Country 2 was my first videogame.
It's also nice to see that Sakurai will be posting some pics of the Wii U version.
It could be to do with the theory of the Diddy Kong Amiibo allowing him to be playable in Mario Kart 8 instead of being in the initial roster (Bowser Jr. is quite high up the hate list for newcomers so the same theory could be applied).
I don't mean to break away the focus from the questionable Diddy Kong hate (Why do people hate Diddy?), but what types of stages do you hope show up in the Wii U version?
Here are some ideas I have:
New:
A Duck Hunt stage
A Kirby's Epic Yarn stage
A DKC Returns stage (If DK doesn't get a new stage in this version, I'd find that questionable)
Nintendoland
Winters (Probably not gonna happen, but it'd be interesting.)
Miiverse
A Super Mario 3D World stage (the reason I have hope is there's stages from Sonic Lost World and Pokemon X/Y, both of which are about as recent as 3D World)
If not a Kirby's Epic Yarn stage, then a Return to Dreamland stage.
A Wario Land: Shake It! stage(probably not gonna happen, though. They seem to be just focusing on Wario Ware)
A new F Zero stage.
Returning:
Onett
Green Greens
Hyrule Temple
Big Blue
HOPEFULLY Fourside (I miss that stage)
HOPEFULLY Brinstar Depths(I miss that stage, too.)
Fountain of Dreams
Mario Circuit
New Pork CIty (Ugh...I hated that stage, but I can still see it coming back. Though it may upset Lucas fans more...)
Pirate Ship
Frigate Orpheon
Lylat Cruise
Pokemon Stadium
Isle Delfino
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Okay, so, and I'm just putting it out there, but let's just throw the clone characters somewhere. Like, off a cliff. Then their spots can be filled with Krystal, Chibi-Robo, and Alex Roivas. Who doesn't want a final smash where everyone's controllers are unplugged?
Yes, let's add Krystal...and make her a clone too. Good idea! When do we push her off the cliff?
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Seriously though, she has a chance to be a more interesting character than Falco or Wolf, with a staff and all.
I really can understand people who were unhappy that Mewtwo didn't get in, considering Dr. "I am seriously Mario in white" Mario got in, the cloneiest of all clones.
I would actually not mind if they kept Falco and got rid of Fox, and watch tournament players lose their minds.
If they removed Falco, Toon Link, Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, and Lucina, they could slip the Ice Climbers (yes, I know why they're not there; let's all live in our fantasy lives), Lucas, Mewtwo, Krystal, and Chibi-Robo (I'll never let you die, buddy). Or, you know, Captain Rainbow.
I would actually not mind if they kept Falco and got rid of Fox, and watch tournament players lose their minds.
If they removed Falco, Toon Link, Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, and Lucina, they could slip the Ice Climbers (yes, I know why they're not there; let's all live in our fantasy lives), Lucas, Mewtwo, Krystal, and Chibi-Robo (I'll never let you die, buddy). Or, you know, Captain Rainbow.
Edit: I see what you did there.
Except removing Lucina would make no difference to the roster. From what was stated by Sakurai before, she's essentially a free character, so you'd get nothing for removing her from the roster. While not confirmed, the same could apply for Dr. Mario and Dark Pit too.
Falco's Up special should have been blue. We know it's shorter than Fox's (like in all previous games), but they should make up the distance with higher damage.
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I don't really mind clones. While I'm no game developer myself, I can logically argue that they are quite easy to implement. When you're working on a schedule, you can't really accomplish everything you want (like say 50 unique characters). So basically you program all the new characters you can while adding several clones to fill up the roster and make some fans happy...or angry.
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I would actually not mind if they kept Falco and got rid of Fox, and watch tournament players lose their minds.
If they removed Falco, Toon Link, Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, and Lucina, they could slip the Ice Climbers (yes, I know why they're not there; let's all live in our fantasy lives), Lucas, Mewtwo, Krystal, and Chibi-Robo (I'll never let you die, buddy). Or, you know, Captain Rainbow.
Edit: I see what you did there.
Except removing Lucina would make no difference to the roster. From what was stated by Sakurai before, she's essentially a free character, so you'd get nothing for removing her from the roster. While not confirmed, the same could apply for Dr. Mario and Dark Pit too.
Well, by removing the five and adding the five, it'd even out. Of course, I forgot about Sceptile. I figured that, since they removed the PKMN Trainer and made Charizard its own character, plus Greninja, that they'd add a Grass starter. I was wrong. Where's the Grass love? And, yes, Alex Roivas. I've never forgotten Eternal Darkness. I know you still have that IP, Nintendo. I mean, I'm not going to throw the game away because of clones. I just find them lazy.
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