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2Sang

Retro_on_theGo wrote:

I think you're just being kind of butthurt at this point. The current gen of Pokemon has always been represented with which ever entry in smash is out at the time. So for all we know it was an obligation to include something from Kalos. At least Sakurai got lucky and picked the most popular starter of gen 6 instead of something like…Delphox, idk.

I don't know why sakurai keeps doing this though. Just because they're in the current gen doesn't mean they're as popular as others. Meowth, eevee, victini, and plusle/minuin off the top of my head deserve a spot over frogger. Pokemon that represent different aspects of the game should be represented. Meowth represents the villains, eevee represents evolutions, plusle/minuin represents multibattles, and victini represents special events.

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I like Greninja as a character. He's something that's different from the norm. I would have liked to see Eevee, but an assist trophy is fine with me

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2Sang

Unca_Lz wrote:

I like Greninja as a character. He's something that's different from the norm. I would have liked to see Eevee, but an assist trophy is fine with me

As a character, I think he's great too it terms of design at least, it's just that I want the best from each franchise. If there were 10 pokemon characters, I'd be ok with him, but there's pokemon who are more deserving and have been waiting their turns for a while.

It seems I go on a rant here every other week about frogger. I really have no complaints outside of him and there being no cutscenes. But man, was I disappointed when his trailer came, Sakurai teased it way to much by making it look like mewtwo. He shouldn't have made the trailer that way unless he had (or still has fingers crossed) revealed mewtwo.

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@2Sang What a coincidence my greninja is nicknamed frogger that's so awesome. And i'm guessing you're not going to be using greninja in online then?

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DefHalan

2Sang wrote:

Retro_on_theGo wrote:

I think you're just being kind of butthurt at this point. The current gen of Pokemon has always been represented with which ever entry in smash is out at the time. So for all we know it was an obligation to include something from Kalos. At least Sakurai got lucky and picked the most popular starter of gen 6 instead of something like…Delphox, idk.

I don't know why sakurai keeps doing this though. Just because they're in the current gen doesn't mean they're as popular as others. Meowth, eevee, victini, and plusle/minuin off the top of my head deserve a spot over frogger. Pokemon that represent different aspects of the game should be represented. Meowth represents the villains, eevee represents evolutions, plusle/minuin represents multibattles, and victini represents special events.

Sakurai doesn't take popularity into his decisions. Ice Climbers weren't exactly popular in 2001 but they made it into Melee. Pit wasn't popular in 2008 but made it into Brawl (and then became so popular he got a new game).

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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2Sang

midnafanboy wrote:

@2Sang What a coincidence my greninja is nicknamed frogger that's so awesome. And i'm guessing you're not going to be using greninja in online then?

No, I even chose froakie as my starter and don't want to play as him.

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DefHalan wrote:

2Sang wrote:

Retro_on_theGo wrote:

I think you're just being kind of butthurt at this point. The current gen of Pokemon has always been represented with which ever entry in smash is out at the time. So for all we know it was an obligation to include something from Kalos. At least Sakurai got lucky and picked the most popular starter of gen 6 instead of something like…Delphox, idk.

I don't know why sakurai keeps doing this though. Just because they're in the current gen doesn't mean they're as popular as others. Meowth, eevee, victini, and plusle/minuin off the top of my head deserve a spot over frogger. Pokemon that represent different aspects of the game should be represented. Meowth represents the villains, eevee represents evolutions, plusle/minuin represents multibattles, and victini represents special events.

Sakurai doesn't take popularity into his decisions. Ice Climbers weren't exactly popular in 2001 but they made it into Melee. Pit wasn't popular in 2008 but made it into Brawl (and then became so popular he got a new game).

But he normally takes into consideration their importance. Mewtwo is far more important. I will give frogger that he has a unique and cool fighting style, but we don't need another jigglypuff.

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DefHalan

2Sang wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

2Sang wrote:

Retro_on_theGo wrote:

I think you're just being kind of butthurt at this point. The current gen of Pokemon has always been represented with which ever entry in smash is out at the time. So for all we know it was an obligation to include something from Kalos. At least Sakurai got lucky and picked the most popular starter of gen 6 instead of something like…Delphox, idk.

I don't know why sakurai keeps doing this though. Just because they're in the current gen doesn't mean they're as popular as others. Meowth, eevee, victini, and plusle/minuin off the top of my head deserve a spot over frogger. Pokemon that represent different aspects of the game should be represented. Meowth represents the villains, eevee represents evolutions, plusle/minuin represents multibattles, and victini represents special events.

Sakurai doesn't take popularity into his decisions. Ice Climbers weren't exactly popular in 2001 but they made it into Melee. Pit wasn't popular in 2008 but made it into Brawl (and then became so popular he got a new game).

But he normally takes into consideration their importance. Mewtwo is far more important. I will give frogger that he has a unique and cool fighting style, but we don't need another jigglypuff.

Another Jigglypuff?

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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Yoshi

Hmm...that is an interesting point.

Donkey Kong was one, but that was a different DK. The DK we know today was never antagonistic.

And there is another one....but that's headed into spoiler territory.

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I consider Dedede and Wario as semi villains.

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I actually think Greeninja was made cool thanks to the fact that it was going to be featured in smash.

If they really decided to use it before its overall design was finalized, I think it is possible that they "buffed" it (anime exposure, awesome hidden ability, super cool ninja stuff) to force it to be popular.

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Robin OP God Tier pls nerf

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I thought a key trait of an anti-hero was having a good alignment. If a character wouldn't do the right thing just because it's the right thing, they are not an anti-hero. They may lack traditional heroic qualities like honour, altruism, and nobility, but they aren't villainous. That would include characters like Batman, The Punisher, and Han Solo. Wario is just a villain. He acts completely in self-interest and would never do the right thing unless there was fame or fortune involved.

I could be wrong though.¯(ツ)/¯

Anyway, what's up with the Sceptile thing ? Did people just decide by themselves that SSB4 needed a grass Pokemon and Sceptile was therefore a potential newcomer? I don't get it.

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DreamyViridi

CaviarMeths wrote:

Anyway, what's up with the Sceptile thing ? Did people just decide by themselves that SSB4 needed a grass Pokemon and Sceptile was therefore a potential newcomer?

Pretty much...
Also, Wario is more of an anti-hero than a villain at this point. Look at his Wario Land games; yeah the main aim is gold and cash-money but he still does good deeds in the end. Intentional or not!

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The_Ninja

They want the fire, grass and water trio. But hey, I didn't see Chikorita as a pokeball yet.... not that I want her playable.

And btw, what if you could choose any Pokemon - besides mewtwo and jigglypuff - to be in SSB4, which one would it be? I would choose Gengar or Kadabra, I love their designs and they have good potiential.

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