Meh, I'd prefer a Mario 64 DS style remake with extra characters and content than just a Wind Waker HD style one with merely minor tweaks.
Uh oh. Someone hasn't played Wind Waker HD yet.
I know what it adds. Mostly minor things like a redesigned triforce quest, a faster sailing option, a pictobox with more photo storage space, some sort of hero mode thing, that Miiverse bottle system, etc.
But Mario 64 DS added three new characters, 30 new stars, redesigned many older missions, added about five new stages, two new power ups, new mini games and a local multiplayer mode. On top of redesigning every graphic/texture/model in the game.
Given the choice between 'Mario Sunshine with updated visuals and minor gameplay tweaks' and 'Mario Sunshine with playable Luigi and Wario + new FLUDD nozzles and multiple new levels in addition to updated visuals', I'd take the latter every time.
The enhancements to Super Mario 64 DS aren't nearly as great as they sound.
I've played through this six times over the years on the DS since it originally came out (Most recently, just a few weeks ago) including catching every rabbit to fully unlock the minigames. The different characters added more hassle than entertainment value, most of the added stars were really insignificant deals, and most of the little remixing done for the original set of stars was minor at best and done to force a character switch.
150 stars instead of 120 suggests there's about 20% more meat to the game. But sadly, it's not nearly as nice as that. Some of the additions are neat but most of them like collecting the silver stars in that small tropical level they added barely amounted to anything. Really insignificant additions like activating a switch and having to rush somewhere before the timer ends to get the star represent most of the additions in most of the worlds (They each get 1 new star to their total as I recall) and the vast majority of the original stars are unchanged.
One new addition I did like a good bit though is the level where I think you recover the key to gain access to Mario. That one halfway approaches the size of one of the original worlds and has several different tasks to do within (Fight the Goomba boss, a switch star, and a 8 red coin fetch quests as I recall). The Luigi and Wario portions are also interesting.
the fact that the Wii originals can be played on the Wii U,
I think this kinda proves that they wont make a Galaxy Remake any time soon. You can already play them on Wii U, so why do they need to make them again?
Beautiful HD graphics.
That's the major reason people have supported this concept such as on the Playstation 3. It's not so much that they have to purchase the HD remaster out of necessity just in order to play the game on their new console. They're revisiting it specifically because of all the enhancements. If it wasn't for that, most of these customers just would never return. So that's why most of these get sold.
Plus, it's an opportunity to sell a game to the people that you missed out on the last time around, perhaps resell the game to someone that wants to revisit a past favorite, and gives them something new to sell to the customer. Buying a beat up used copy of Super Mario Galaxy 2 doesn't directly benefit Nintendo and a HD Galaxy collection earns Nintendo money and bolsters the marketability of the console.
But of course with Super Mario 3D World having just released, nothing is going to happen anytime soon. The earliest window of opportunity would be a year from now for a remastered release of a past Mario platform. So all this talk is rather premature at this point.
Except even outside of Super Mario 64 DS, you have to admit there are a ton of Nintendo remakes far better than the likes of Wind Waker HD which actually add significant amounts of interesting content, and that a Mario Sunshine remake like those would be better than just 'HD graphics + minor changes'. Look at Pokemon Fire Red/Leaf Green for example, or Heart Gold/Soul Silver. They added new locations, new Battle Tower type areas, legendaries from other games, rematches with the gym leaders and elite four, redid all the visuals and soundtrack...
Or how about Mario Bros Deluxe for the Game Boy? There, they added not only slightly better graphics, but also an overworld map style system, you vs boo, red coin collecting, yoshi coin collecting and pretty much the main eight worlds of the Lost Levels as an unlockable. Or Donkey Kong 98 or whatever, where only the first four levels were remade and the next ninety or so were brand new with new game mechanics, enemies, graphics, music, gameplay, etc. I've always preferred this type of remake to the 'update the visuals and make minor tweaks' kind so common in this generation.
Plus, it's an opportunity to sell a game to the people that you missed out on the last time around,
Well wouldnt Nintendo rather sell games that CANT be played on the Wii U (Like Sunshine) for people that missed that one, rather than remake one that can still be plauyed and more people have probably played than sunshine. By saying that they can now play it because they missed it last time around, you are helping my point also. More people have probably played Galaxy that Sunshine.
@renaryuugufan92 That Super Mario All-Stars HD idea is beyond awesome, although personally, I'd replace SM64 with the DS remake upped with Wii/Wii U-level graphics and multiplayer (much like how the games in the original All-Stars were upgraded for the SNES).
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the fact that the Wii originals can be played on the Wii U,
I think this kinda proves that they wont make a Galaxy Remake any time soon. You can already play them on Wii U, so why do they need to make them again?
Metroid Prime Trilogy and Twilight Princess are two gamecube games that released on the Wii, despite the fact that the Wii could play gamecube games.
Super Mario Sunshine could use either the Wii remote or the Gamepad to add in gyrosensor aiming for FLUDD. Maybe they could add in the ability to move while aiming like they did with the Wind Waker HD. Could you move while aiming in Super Mario Sunshine? Sorry, it's been years since I've played the game. So, yeah, if a Wii U version came out I would definitely buy it. I still have an old Wii capable of playing gamecube games, but I've been hesitant to get a copy of SMS because I've been hoping they'll either make an HD version of it for Wii U or release it on the Wii U virtual console. Although, right now, an HD remake is looking more likely, seeing as how we haven't even been able to get anything besides NES and SNES games on the Wii U VC.
Someone here mentioned the idea of having Miis in Delfino Plaza. That sounds like a good idea to me. At least, the best way to incorporate Miiverse into Super Mario Sunshine. Of course, you'd have to get rid of the Miis during the chase sequences, otherwise they'd just be getting in the way.
I mentioned how they could use either the remote or the gamepad. Personally, I'd like to have the option. I also would have liked to have an option in Wind Waker HD to use the Wii remote and nunchuk controllers. It wouldn't have had to have been 1:1 sword movements (which would've been nice), but at least make it to where if you swing right or left then Link swings right or left, respectively. But, I guess that would have been too much effort to accommodate both control schemes.
Besides being in HD, I really don't think bringing Super Mario Galaxy 1&2 to the Wii U would really benefit the games at all, especially since the games were made specifically for the Wii remote. Having to point the Wii remote for starbits isn't completely necessary, but it is with the pull stars. It's obviously a lot easier to point with the remote than it would be to touch it on the gamepad, because while using the remote you still have access to all the buttons whereas with the gamepad you'd have to take your hand off the controls to do so. It also wouldn't benefit at all from the motion plus, because the only use of motion sensing it uses it shake to spin, then the parts where you hold it upright and balance on a ball, but those seemed to work fine without motion plus, so, yeah. I see no benefit to porting the Galaxy games to Wii U besides the graphics. Maybe for Nintendo's next home console.
yes yes yes this needs to come out but not just for wii u for 3ds aswell as xbox 360 and ps3
you forgot Dreamcast, Atari 2600, PSVita, Commodore 64 and PC
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Super Mario All-Stars 2 would be better; which could contain remakes of Super Mario 64, Sunshine, Galaxy 1, and Galaxy 2 on one disc. 2015 would also be the perfect year for All-Stars 2 to be released.
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Super Mario All-Stars 2 would be better; which could contain remakes of Super Mario 64, Sunshine, Galaxy 1, and Galaxy 2 on one disc. 2015 would also be the perfect year for All-Stars 2 to be released.
There is no way that Nintendo would release four HD remakes on one disc. Even if they did, the cost would likely be over $100 and that's not an easy sell to make. If anything, they would sell them separately and for a pretty penny, no less. Probably even $50 each. So, yeah, that would make a compilation disc $200. I don't see that happening.
This game has never been announced, it is just an idea.
My brother and I picked up Wind Waker HD, and it was mind blowing. It was almost a whole new game. Then , we started thinking of what other games would make amazing remakes. We thought of Super Mario Mario Sunshine. How amazing would that be?! Super Mario Sunshine is one of the best mario games of all time. It features free roaming, side quests, and a long play life with a great replay value. It would be insane for Nintendo to create this, and they already said they could make more HD remakes. So, please leave comments down below about a Super Mario Sunshine HD Remake.
I'm pretty sure this will happen along with Luigi's mansion. I read somewhere that development time for Wind Waker was 6 to 7 months. If they can do a game of that scope so quickly with low costs it's a safe bet we will see one in 2014. I think Luigi's mansion will be first. They need to pad out that pretty thin release schedule ya know.
this. and no more remakes for the time being, I hope
Super Mario Super Sunshine!?!?! or better yet..
SUPER MARIO SUPERNOVA!!
I'd buy this for the name only
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