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KaiserGX

41. Posted:

MadAussieBloke wrote:

Between 3D World & Sonic Lost World we can safely say we're well and truly covered in all facets of platforming for a while... The blue bomber is doesin' it for the hardcore what the red plumber don't ;)

Megaman? Megman? Megaman turned crud for me after X3.

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KaiserGX wrote:

MadAussieBloke wrote:

Between 3D World & Sonic Lost World we can safely say we're well and truly covered in all facets of platforming for a while... The blue bomber is doesin' it for the hardcore what the red plumber don't ;)

Megaman? Megman? Megaman turned crud for me after X3.

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KaiserGX

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Ok I am really lost now here on what you are saying lol. Megman > Sonic though.

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KaiserGX wrote:

MadAussieBloke wrote:

Between 3D World & Sonic Lost World we can safely say we're well and truly covered in all facets of platforming for a while... The blue bomber is doesin' it for the hardcore what the red plumber don't ;)

Megaman? Megman? Megaman turned crud for me after X3.

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45. Posted:

Wha...wh...WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR!!!!!!

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NintySince96

46. Posted:

Before 3D World was announced I would have been disappointed with SMG3. Now I welcome it with open arms. Just give me a Galaxy experience with 1080p 60 fps and let the nightmare end.

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To argue that 3D World lacks creativity solely because it is a sequel to 3D Land is quite ironic when the very same people want SMG3.

What a straw man argument. Before 3D World was ever announced most ppl were saying that SMG3, while nice, would feel a bit stale and they wanted something new. It wasn't until after 3D World's announcement that people are a lot more excited about Galaxy 3.

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Before 3D World was announced I would have been disappointed with SMG3. Now I welcome it with open arms. Just give me a Galaxy experience with 1080p 60 fps and let the nightmare end.

If you think you will get a 1080p @60fps 3D Mario game, you are delusional.... I'm the Wii U's biggest defender, but no way the system can handle that.... DKCRTF would be 1080p@60fps before any full 3D game could.... The system was intentionally designed for full 720p gaming, the only titles that will be 1080p will be games not very demanding, and 3d Mario games are pretty demanding of the hardware.

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49. Posted:

KaiserGX wrote:

Ok I am really lost now here on what you are saying lol. Megman < Sonic though.

Fixed. ;)

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ClassicSonicFan wrote:

KaiserGX wrote:

Ok I am really lost now here on what you are saying lol. Megman > Sonic though.

Fixed. ;)

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WiiULoveSquid

51. Posted:

SM3DW > megaman/sonic/this thread :)

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I'm far happier with the sequel to 3D Land, 3D World, than I would be for a Galaxy 3 considering the quality drop from Galaxy to Galaxy 2. If their plan is to do a Galaxy 3 at some point, I hope they really clean up their presentation. Galaxy 2 is a game I associate with having an identity crisis. It hugs onto to Galaxy without respect while also trying to embrace 2D Mario game concepts. The end result is my least favorite 3D Mario and the only 3D Mario I hold below the entire New series. I can't imagine 3D World disappointing me, especially not to that extent. The game's multiplayer feature is what has really sold me to make an investment, and hopefully my whole family can have a role in what's looking to be a high quality, creative 3D Mario game.

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MrWalkieTalkie wrote:

ClassicSonicFan wrote:

KaiserGX wrote:

Ok I am really lost now here on what you are saying lol. Megaman < Sonic though.

Fixed. ;)

I suck eggs.

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54. Posted:

ClassicSonicFan wrote:

MrWalkieTalkie wrote:

ClassicSonicFan wrote:

KaiserGX wrote:

Ok I am really lost now here on what you are saying lol. Megaman < Sonic though.

Fixed. ;)

I love Dr Eggman.

Yep indeed.

Yeah I want Eggman 3D World FTW ;)
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MadAussieBloke wrote:

ClassicSonicFan wrote:

MrWalkieTalkie wrote:

ClassicSonicFan wrote:

KaiserGX wrote:

Ok I am really lost now here on what you are saying lol. Megaman < Sonic though.

Fixed. ;)

I love Dr Eggman.

Yep indeed.

Yeah I want Eggman 3D World FTW ;)
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Actually I would really like that.

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56. Posted:

NintySince96 wrote:

Fazermint wrote:

To argue that 3D World lacks creativity solely because it is a sequel to 3D Land is quite ironic when the very same people want SMG3.

What a straw man argument. Before 3D World was ever announced most ppl were saying that SMG3, while nice, would feel a bit stale and they wanted something new. It wasn't until after 3D World's announcement that people are a lot more excited about Galaxy 3.

I fail to see how people would be anymore excited for a SMG3 before or after the announcement of 3D World. It would still largely be taking from the Galaxy formula, which would still potentially make it feel stale, and it still wouldn't be something new. Actually, I would think SMG3 after 3D World would make people even more disappointed.

Don't get me wrong; the Galaxy series is fantastic and if there was ever to be SMG3, then it would be absolutely gorgeous in HD coming from a couple of Wii games that still look great on their less powerful console, and there would be another epic orchestral soundtrack. But it would still leave something to be desired as far as what it would've been like to have a completely new game in which Mario was placed in a completely new world with new characters. SMG3 would have to have some radical ideas to freshen it up from the past two games, yet still have the Galaxy formula. Right now, I can't think of any radical ideas Nintendo could for a SMG3, but I'm sure they could think of something. Still, I would rather recommend Nintendo try something new next time.

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KaiserGX

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I like Sonic too, not as much as most of you but the later games haven't been as good. There was a time where I tried out a lot of Genesis games. They had crazy stuff on there. Or that one Bug game on the Dreamcast. Though I herd not many people liked it.

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Neoproteus

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Am I the only one who thought Super Mario Galaxy 2 was the best 3D Mario game yet? It added a little of the new and took the best of the old.

Oh and @Happy_Mask , just because a level is based on a powerup doesn't meant the level is unoriginal. They are new powerups, which makes it new gameplay and a new concept to explore in a new level. Not saying the game is totally original, just nitpicking a particularly weak point in your argument.

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59. Posted:

Warruz wrote:

KaiserGX wrote:

MadAussieBloke wrote:

Between 3D World & Sonic Lost World we can safely say we're well and truly covered in all facets of platforming for a while... The blue bomber is doesin' it for the hardcore what the red plumber don't ;)

Megaman? Megman? Megaman turned crud for me after X3.

What ?! X4 was the best of the series

X4 was awesome. What also made it special is that it was the first 32-bit X title VS the '16-bit' X trilogy on the SNES. On it's own, X4 is easily one of the best in the X series, i'd rank it right behind X1. Now, X5 on the other hand is when the series turned to Count chocula cool-dudes crud. Inafune said that X5 was supposed to be the final entry in the X series, but they created X6 without his permission...X6 btw was terrible. ;) same deal with the other two that came afterwards.

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60. Posted:

NintySince96 wrote:

Fazermint wrote:

To argue that 3D World lacks creativity solely because it is a sequel to 3D Land is quite ironic when the very same people want SMG3.

What a straw man argument. Before 3D World was ever announced most ppl were saying that SMG3, while nice, would feel a bit stale and they wanted something new. It wasn't until after 3D World's announcement that people are a lot more excited about Galaxy 3.

It's not a strawman argument. I don't agree with it and I agree even less with what you're saying but it's not a strawman. A strawman is when you attack a claim that sounds like what your "opponent" is saying but isn't what they are saying instead of addressing them directly.

If anyone is creating a strawman argument here it would be you. Fazermint did not say anything about the timing of the comments at all. All he said was that it's ironic how people who are disappointed with the idea of 3D World because it lacks creativity would have been happier with Galaxy 3. Because in his view another Galaxy, a third Mario Galaxy, would have been more derivative than a full HD console version of 3D Land. It's possible to argue that. I don't agree with that take on it because I'm one of the people who Fazermint is talking about but it is subjective and so it's possible to argue

Personally I did want something like a Galaxy 3 before the announcement and I would have been very happy with a Galaxy 3. I still do. I also think that a Galaxy 3 even if it was just a HD version of what Galaxy 2 was to the original would have been more creative than 3D World. So I am one of the people who would be the exception to your made up rule.

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