Topic: Super Mario 3D World - OT

I disagree. Mario Sunshine's had its fair share of poor reviews (even though it is a great game), and the general rule seems to be that the public didn't like it that much (compared to 64, Galaxy and 3D Land, its sales are extremely low).

And Mario 3D Land did get decent reviews as well. Bet this game gets 90% + ratings across the board.

I doubt your preconception of the quality of products will ever live up to the likes of Patcher.

So stop trying so hard.

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Yeah I don't know what's up with everyone liking Sunshine so suddenly. I remember people used to think it was just alright. Kinda feels like what happens to the Zelda games. People like it at first, hate it, then start liking it again.

I enjoyed Sunshine too, I think in the past everyone hated it because it was too different. It had the FLUDD "gimmick" (ugh, hate that word), very little Mario characters in the game, only ones being the main characters.

Nope. I hate it because (in my honest opinion) it sucks. People keep comparing it to Super Mario 64 yet the game barely plays like it. Many of the game mechanics were changed so it could fit with the F.L.U.D.D. mechanic so in those sections where Shadow Mario, an interesting idea gone bad (no joke intended), takes F.L.U.D.D., it becomes glaringly obvious that the game feel is different from Super Mario 64. But what if I played it as it's own game and stopped comparing it to Super Mario 64? I have, and I still disliked it.

I don't hate it I just think it's alright. Though I never compare games to each other. There are some kids out there that maybe played Sunshine for the first time but no another Mario game. I always judges on just the actual game itself.

More people need to do this. Constantly comparing is neither fun nor fair.
I liked Sunshine too, for the record. Well, except for the Blue Coins... but fun nonetheless.

Yeah, I wasn't on the Nintendo scene during the GameCube days, but it sure seems like Sunshine, and Luigi's Mansion, were both regarded as okay or even poor titles. Now they are practically treated like gods. Nostalgia is a strange thing...

I just never had that.. mindset of playing like Mario Kart 64 and then having Super Mario Kart in the back of my mind. They both have a different feel. Like the controls and the way levels are designed.

I actually like the Friday the 13th game. Though to enjoy that game you need to know what to do ahead of time. Looking for the pitchfork and such.

This. How can people say the game is exactly the same because you looked at a few screenshots? Galaxy 2 looked a lot like the first, but we all love that one, dont we?

I don't think it's nostalgia. With those titles in particular, as well as The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, I think the issue was that people needed to be removed from their expectations before being capable of fully appreciating what they were. That happens all the time in all sorts of mediums—not just video games.

I'm afraid even that has been disputed. I can't argue though, their opinions are as valid as the opinions of you or me. Though, with Super Mario Galaxy 2, most of the nay-sayers have played it. Whereas with 3D World, a lot of the people that dislike it haven't played it. It's a strange world we live in...

@Tainy I've played Super Mario Sunshine numerous times with several different perspectives. It was a boring game made depressing because everyone seems to be enjoying it more than I am.

EDIT: I think Jim Sterling's "Oil on water: How I can't love the games you love" (interesting article. I highly recommend you read it.) says it best: "My wife adores Jeff Buckley, as do a fair few people I've met over the years. They say his music touches their soul, speaks out to them, and provided the soundtrack to a considerable majority of their lives. I've heard his stuff, and I just don't get it. It doesn't sink in. There's something interminably frustrating about that, to know that somebody is getting so much satisfaction out of something, and you can't access whatever font of pleasure others can merrily tap into at will."

Sunshine is absolutely amazing, far better than the lameness that is 3d World. In fact, Sunshine is on my top 10 games list..

Also, just by looking at gameplay videos of 3d World, does anyone else think it looks far too easy?

@Metal_Sonic I take it that you've played it then?

@Mickey No, but you can obviously tell by looking at gameplay videos that the game is easy. Enemies are spread mostly far apart and are easy to take out, and the platforming itself looks way too easy..

Kung Fu Rabbit looked easy to me.. until I played it.

since when were any of the 3D mario games hard since sunshine? and they have only shown 3 levels so its hard to know

The only thing I found hard in Sunshine was those special levels since you didn't have FLUDD.

If someone saw a picture of this game they would think it was Galaxy 3, there is no difference between the games besides gravity effects, which I don't think added that much to the gameplay experience besides visuals. No one complained about Galaxy 2, so why is everyone complaining about this game?