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Topic: Square-enix: No DX11 = No KH3 on WiiU. Sonic Boom Devs: Here's the game running on DX11!

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Captain_Toad

41. Posted:

Einherjar wrote:

3rd Partys will use whatever excuse not to release their game on a Nintendo console, because its not the "cool thing to do".
Youre not cool if you dont release games on the new and shiny next gen "watercoolers"..

Kodeen wrote:

Or maybe they make decisions for financial reasons instead of employing high school politics.

Heh, yeah but the majority of the time it's the latter. If it about financial reasons, whatever no problem. but don't cause a million and one false reasons to tell us why you cant put your game on a console. I'm still seething about that dead island 2 thing.

Oh and this news post was about that kingdom hearts DX11 thing was in June 18 2013. So this could change.

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42. Posted:

Kodeen wrote:

Or maybe they make decisions for financial reasons instead of employing high school politics.

>Spends nearly a decade developing a game.
>Inflates budget to astronomical levels.
>Seemingly ignores downward trend of series sales.
>Scraps game and starts over to build on new engine.
>Decides to instead build on next-gen consoles with 1/20th the install base.

"Financial reasons."

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Kodeen

43. Posted:

So if they lost money 5 ways, they might as well lose it 6 ways?

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44. Posted:

Kodeen wrote:

So if they lost money 5 ways, they might as well lose it 6 ways?

nope, it's not about how many times they lost, it's about insight if they failed to see so many mistakes there's a low chance they'd notice another one.

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I only liked the first game. I played the heck out of that and Dark Cloud 2.

My other console is a next gen

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CaviarMeths

46. Posted:

Kodeen wrote:

So if they lost money 5 ways, they might as well lose it 6 ways?

My point is that "financial reasons" don't seem to govern much of their decision-making as far as console games go.

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47. Posted:

KennyPowers wrote:

Kaze_Memaryu wrote:

KennyPowers wrote:

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Despite being shifted from PS3 to PS4, the game itself doesn't even have 4k visuals. And while some may say that 4k isn't the only thing about next-gen, it's still the only argument for it, yet not a single PS4/XBone game even tried to go beyond 1080p with upscaling.

What's the point in having 4K visuals when pretty much nobody has a TV that can display them? What a ridiculous argument.

Tell that to Microsft and Sony, they used 4k as an argument to buy their consoles. It's probably gonna take around 2-3 years until 4k TV's are affordable anyway.

Sony used it as an argument because they want you to buy one of their 4K TVs. They also sold the PS3 on 3D gaming as well, and that didn't catch on either.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for 4K gaming this generation. Maybe a couple titles will use it years from now, but it's still a long way from being the norm.

Could either of you point me to where Sony said the PS4 supports 4K games, last I checked movies were possible, but games were a no go. Visuals have gone beyond PS3/360 already anyway.

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48. Posted:

CaviarMeths wrote:

Kodeen wrote:

Or maybe they make decisions for financial reasons instead of employing high school politics.

>Spends nearly a decade developing a game.
You have no clue how long they've actually been working on the game
>Inflates budget to astronomical levels.
You dont know Square's budget either
>Seemingly ignores downward trend of series sales.
What trend? There hasn't been a mainline game on consoles for an entire gen
>Scraps game and starts over to build on new engine
This happens more than you think and I dont believe they have a choice since they moved development to a diff console
>Decides to instead build on next-gen consoles with 1/20th the install base.
Nobody has a clue when KH3 will be released

"Financial reasons."

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49. Posted:

Jaz007 wrote:

KennyPowers wrote:

Kaze_Memaryu wrote:

KennyPowers wrote:

Kaze_Memaryu wrote:

Despite being shifted from PS3 to PS4, the game itself doesn't even have 4k visuals. And while some may say that 4k isn't the only thing about next-gen, it's still the only argument for it, yet not a single PS4/XBone game even tried to go beyond 1080p with upscaling.

What's the point in having 4K visuals when pretty much nobody has a TV that can display them? What a ridiculous argument.

Tell that to Microsft and Sony, they used 4k as an argument to buy their consoles. It's probably gonna take around 2-3 years until 4k TV's are affordable anyway.

Sony used it as an argument because they want you to buy one of their 4K TVs. They also sold the PS3 on 3D gaming as well, and that didn't catch on either.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for 4K gaming this generation. Maybe a couple titles will use it years from now, but it's still a long way from being the norm.

Could either of you point me to where Sony said the PS4 supports 4K games, last I checked movies were possible, but games were a no go. Visuals have gone beyond PS3/360 already anyway.

I know 4K was mentioned for video, but I didn't hear anything about 4K gaming on the PS4 either. I just posted to let him know that 4K is years away from ever being used for console gaming.

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50. Posted:

Its a dirty shame. Kingdom Hearts games have sold pretty freaking well on Nintendo handhelds. There is actually a Kingdom Hearts fanbase with Nintendo.....

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51. Posted:

the joke will be on Square Enix when the xbox one version sales worse then any game on the wii u has

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52. Posted:

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the joke will be on Square Enix when the xbox one version sales worse then any game on the wii u has

well, some games on WiiU did really bad...
I don't see this happening(well at least not in such a big scale as selling worse than anything on WiiU) unless the XBOne version get mandatory Kinect controls but I also don't see this happening...

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53. Posted:

From what I understood, Square Enix was acknowledging that Wii U only ran DirectX 10.1(native), and the rest would have to be figured out, elsewhere. They never even said that Wii U wasn't getting KH3, because of DX11. Naive people on the internet were the only ones who believed that story.

The interview many were referencing to say that DX11 was required, never even said that. The specs are ultimately what the game runs on. As long as they know what the Wii U's specs are, they can build the a game on any program, and format it to run on Wii U.

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54. Posted:

CaviarMeths wrote:

Kodeen wrote:

Or maybe they make decisions for financial reasons instead of employing high school politics.

>Spends nearly a decade developing a game.
>Inflates budget to astronomical levels.
>Seemingly ignores downward trend of series sales.
>Scraps game and starts over to build on new engine.
>Decides to instead build on next-gen consoles with 1/20th the install base.

"Financial reasons."

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55. Posted:

sonicfanatic wrote:

the joke will be on Square Enix when the xbox one version sales worse then any game on the wii u has

The thing is that porting from the PS4 to the XBONE is cheaper and easier than porting from the PS4 to the WiI U, so yes KH 3 would probably sell less on XBONE than it would on Wii U but since porting is cheap they don't need to sell that many copies to make the cost of the port back....

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56. Posted:

Don't give 2 Fs. Now give me X and Bayonetta 2.

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SCAR392

57. Posted:

@Jaz007
The way I figured it was, if Xbox One can do 4K, then so can PS4.
http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/23/4359450/xbox-one-will-suppor...

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Xiao_Pai

58. Posted:

....Isn't Square supposed to be like, a major supporter of Nintendo? >.>

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59. Posted:

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....Isn't Square supposed to be like, a major supporter of Nintendo? >.>

They were during the 8 and 16 but the company has mostly been Sony aligned since the 3D era of games started.

Dragon Quest is still a big thing for Nintendo but honestly I expect X to be ported to the PS3/PS4 before a western release and the next main game to either be Multiplatform on consoles or 3DS.

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60. Posted:

@shingi_70
They heavily supported GBA and DS. GCN and Wii still got a few FF games, too.

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