Topic: So if a new Metroid is coming...

Its easy. All Nintendo gotta do for Metroid U is this:
1: Huge and multiple routes for exploration
2: Push the Wii U to its limits so its extremly pretty
3: Great story that has player choice
4: Some kind of multiplayer mode that doesn't suck
5: EXTREMLY easy to control

That is terrible logic. Besides, Metroid already had multiplayer once. It was awful. Just because a tacked-on Multiplayer mode can be good doesn't mean everyone will be able to do it right, regardless of what they're trying to do. It has to work with the game and it has to be good enough to be worth the investment, and it can't comprimise the rest of the game quality in order to do it.

If someone has a good idea and they can make it work without sacrificing any other part of the game, great, throw it in. But the last thing we need are more developers being forced to throw in Multiplayer just to fullfill some sort of arbitrary requirement.

maybe you are happy just playing mario every now n then when a new one is released, but others would like more, not being competetive with multiplayer games continues to hinder nintendo, why would anybody buy a wii u just to play call of duty, when they could have just stayed on 360 and ps3 until they went to xbox 1 and ps4? not to mention the cod communities are much smaller on wii u.

what im saying is heres how it works, you dont have anything but mario or a zelda that while im sure will be awesome, is still in the pipes, so what is going to make people run out a buy the wii u? maybe thats why people havent been? with less player base you get less games and no third party support, look at it how you will but games can have both multiplayer and single player, look at uncharted or the last of us, killzone, etc.

edit: and im not bashing nintendo or wii u, im just simply stating the obvious of why its not selling like nintendo and many of us here want.

It's wasted development resources on a mode that not many people would use. I would rather a longer and better polished game than a rough one with a tacked on multiplayer. That's why multiplayer works better only for certain games in my mind.

well i dont see why the multiplayer has to be tacked on, and i dont see why the single player has to be lessened due to having multiplayer.

as for a mode nobody would play? i find that hard to believe, i see posts on the internet all the time of people asking if theres any games not named call of duty to scratch their multiplayer itch on wii u with.

I'm not saying it should just be tacked on for the sake of having it, I'm just saying it's nice to have multiplayer, especially if it's fun. If it's a terrible idea and feels like it's obviously there just to have the option, then to hell with it. If there is going to be multiplayer I want it to be good. I was only using the Luigi's Mansion as an example because I thought the multiplayer was fun and wasn't tacked on. I enjoyed it and when the game came out, there was a ton of other people online playing it, too.

I never played any Metroid game that had multiplayer, the ones I've ever played are Prime and the original for NES. So I can't comment on how terrible previous multiplayer was. I heard some people really liked Hunters multiplayer, I just imagine a game like Prime could have a pretty fun VS mode or some sort of co-op if it's well thought out. It's not like I want them to hinder the single-player experience, I just like having the option of multiplayer. I don't see how my logic is terrible. Metroid has always been a single-player experience and that's what I like it for, but it doesn't hurt to have multiplayer if developers go about it the right way.

if done right, metroid could be nintendos killzone/halo for online gaming, a good capture the flag mode could be alot of fun indeed.

I think so, too. I just played Metroid Corruption recently and I can imagine some of it's levels/zones as a multiplayer map and it would be great. Capture the flag would be a good fit for them. I'm not sure what the characters would look like, whether they'd just be different skins of not, but it would be fun none-the-less.

Prime's the weakest of the 3D Metroid games in my opinion, so I definitely would.

I'm pretty sure everyone that got Hunters used its multiplayer at some point. The same could possibly be said about Echoes, though much less so as it required other people. I would expect a lot of people to use a multiplayer feature if it were to reappear again in a first person Metroid title, especially if it's even more extensive than the one in Hunters. In my opinion, multiplayer not appearing in the first person titles has been and is wasted potential. Not enough wasted to make the game bad, but enough wasted to make me think the game's behind 2006.

I always get this feeling that everybody wanting a multiplayer mode from Metroid is looking at the wrong series.

I'm starting to sound like a broken record here, but Starfox has way more of a chance at being online multiplayer than Metroid. Not to mention it's a series that needs a revival almost as bad as F-Zero.

Metroid is a good game, but you guys are really "beating an old drum" if you're still expecting Metroid to make a return ASAP when other things probably need to be done, first. Don't even get me started about Retros involvement... There's very little chance of Retro being involved and it looks like no one cares, anyway.

In conclusion, if there's multiplayer in a new Metroid, that'll be great, but I wouldn't count on that or the involvement of Retro Studios.

^ I'm just here commenting on things I'd like to see in a future Metroid game, what the thread is for. I agree with you though, Starfox needs attention and I would much more prefer they release a new Starfox first. Especially one in the same vein as Starfox 64. I also agree that Starfox would be a much better game for multiplayer as well. I can see the space fighting now.. it'd be a great game for online co-op, too. Imagine 4 players going into missions as Fox, Falco, Slippy and Peppy.. that would be awesome. Well, maybe not for the person who has to play Peppy.

@Spuratis
I'd have to disagree with the Starfox 64 bit. Starfox Assault is the game that really showed what a Starfox game could be about if they weren't limited in gameplay to a plane, tank, or on foot.

I can agree that the on-rails Arwing levels were great, but you'd be holding back the series quite alot if you didn't allow Starfox and his team to exit their vehicles at various points in the game as Starfox Assault did.

Starfox Assault was the pinnacle of the series, IMO. That's not to say a new title wouldn't need MAJOR improvement over that title(graphics, gameplay, story, etc), but alot more can be done in the realm of Starfox than on-rail Arwing levels.

Both Metroid and Star Fox can benefit from extensive multiplayers. Nintendo shouldn't just take one and not even bother with the other. They have the resources to make both happen.

First/third person shooter. That is all.

Basically what Metroid and Starfox would be, based on the Prime and Assault games of those series.

@I-U
I'm not saying one or the other should happen. I'm saying that there's not enough love going for a game like Starfox, when it kind of deserves a new game. I'm arguing that all the while everyone wants a new Metroid, Starfox is right there, with just as much potential as Metroid.

These 2 series are equal to me, so I'm trying to level the discussion by stating that it's not all about Metroid. Most of anyone that had a Wii or GCN didn't really give much of a damn about either of these games, so Nintendo isn't inclined to "give people what they want".

If Nintendo is going to make these games, they're going to be familiar to fans, but more appealing to new players by adding new gameplay elements. This is where suggesting a gameplay style that's 15 years old doesn't sit well. Hardware has gotten much better since the days of N64, so why mention such an old game?

Asking for a a game similar to a game on the N64(OoT or Starfox 64) on a new console 3 generations later isn't going to improve anything in the video game market.

So basically you're taking back what you said before, because what you said before was:

Implying that it would work with every game. But if you think that it should only be in games where it might actually be fun instead of just being there to check a box and make it more "competitive", then that's fine, we agree.

And yes, Luigi's Mansion's multiplayer was tacked on. It was a very late addition that requred a delay and a lot of convincing to Nintendo from the development team that it would actually be worth it.

And no, Co-op would be terrible for Metroid, just as it was for Resident Evil. You can't have the lonely atmosphere that makes the franchise so great if you're not alone.

Hunters was not a Metroid game, it was a Quake clone with a Metroid Aesthetic, hence why it's considered such an unfavorable game in the series by most fans. It lacked the atmosphere, polish...and really the general gameplay and story that worked so well in Prime.

That said, I was refering to Metroid Prime 2. Everyone seems to forget that had stock-standard, barebones shooter multiplayer modes, and no wonder, it was crap. No one wanted to play it, and it just took up space that could've been used to enhance the singleplayer game.

trying to put multiplayer in everything is a terrible idea that is terrible

it could work for Metroid and I wouldn't mind more Hunters multiplayer but if it doesn't, that's not bad either

@Canis I guess I do take back what I said in that manner. I don't want it there just for the sake of it being competitive, I want something with substance that people will find is worth it and enjoyable. As far as Luigi's Mansion goes, I should of said it didn't feel tacked on. At least to me anyway. I put almost as much time into multiplayer as I did 100%'ing the main story. I liked it.

When I said co-op, I said "some sort of" co-op, as in something apart from the main story, because like you said it has a very lonely atmosphere to it and that would be hurt by another player being there. I was thinking more along the lines of some kind of side missions or challenges in a multiplayer mode, similar to the challenges that Pikmin has where you can partner up with someone to complete them. Maybe some kind of timed co-op puzzle levels or kill all the enemy type of things. Those are just examples. There's a lot they could do with some creative minds behind it.

2d metroid on wii u!!!

I would prefer a 3d Metroid, like Other M but with a better care of the history. A huge overworld, with travelling between multiple locations and problems in different points of the federation.