Absolutely yes. After owning a PS3 for a while I now really miss trophies when playing on my Wii. It's about bragging rights, and also simply a concrete record of personal achievement. It perfectly creates the false sense of accomplishment that I seek in games to compensate for my empty and meaningless life. I'll be really disappointed if they aren't included.

I'm sure I remember Miyamoto saying a couple of years ago that he was against the idea, that incentive should be provided entirely by good game design rather than tacked on mechanics such as achievements/trophies, which worries me. But with the technological power of Wii U indicating that Nintendo are hoping to steal customers from the "hardcore" market, it would seem senseless to not provide them with this, since they're so accustomed to it and, judging from my friends at least, mostly pretty fond of it. The online accounts promised show that we're going in that direction anyway. My hopes are high!

Umm... maybe YOU cheat but I never had to cheat. You're supposed to find out the hidden trophies on your own and don't say it's impossible because I platinum-ed a few games and one had like 5 hidden trophies.. if you don't like them you don't need to do them, they are completely optional. And if you get riled up about it that much that you can't do them so you don't want anyone else to have the pleasure to have them.. then maybe your just bad at them games.

Now was that so hard?

BlazBlue had a hidden achievement where you had to do a specific character's special move while fighting a specific opponent. 100 times.

Hidden achievements aren't really obvious sometimes. If you didn't know you had to do that there was no reason to do it. And accidentally unlocking it without knowing would take a long long time.

Then so be it, but they are totally optional. And I wouldn't exactly categorize searching for the requirements of an achievement online as cheating. But I WOULD do it after I beat the game to avoid spoilers.

I'm for achievements that are based on skill, not your ability to tolerate endless exploring of the same level looking for a hidden item or forced replays of an entire game using a character that is only slightly different from the main character.

^yeah this. But that's really in the developers' hands, Nintendo can only choose to have achievements or not, I don't think they'd have much say in what they are.

^And also, games dedicated to achievement points only that take a ridiculously easy amount of time and effort to get are just horrible, they ruin the point.

Just gonna post this here.

achievement |əˈCHēvməntl
noun
1 a thing done successfully, typically by effort, courage, or skill: to reach this stage is a great achievement.
2 the process or fact of achieving something: the achievement of professional recognition | assessing ability in terms of academic achievement | a sense of achievement.
_{what the hell is wrong with the bold D:}

Trophies would be ok, but just some random stupid number is not good.

Why not?

Mmm, I prefer PSN's "level" system over Gamerscore. Not sure why... I guess because it provides something to work toward constantly, i.e. the next level. Gamerscore is just one tedious linearity. I'm not actually bothered about a Gamerscore or Trophy level or any sort of overall rating, in fact I'd rather not have them. I just want a record on my profile of which games I've 100%'d, and which individual achievements I've earned.

I am almost 100% sure it will have achievements. Nintendo knows that Trophies and achievements attract more gamers.

question is who are they attracting i think its safe to say most of us here played games before "what i will call" something to show for ever appeared.

while its fun in its own way and i dont mind or complain about it since the only games i bothered 100 percent trophy completion on all uncharted games and the two thrones, i certainly dont remeber asking for this kind of thing. did the lot of us get bored or something ?

that being said if they are going to do something like this maybe they should use mario icons like this:
not in any order as im just making this up

Mushroom: easy achievement icon
Star: hard achievement icon
Question box: secret achievement icon

and so forth i need a little more time to make more sense of how that could work lol

I want achievements for Nintendo games to mean something, most of the trophies and achievements in PS3 and XBOX games are for doing pointless things. Just getting a medal for beating a game would be enough to me, or just something on the Wii U that keeps track of the games you've played (and maybe have completed) similar to the 3DS. To me, beating a game is enough of an accomplishment as it is. For example you could get a bronze medal for simply beating a game (we'll use Super Mario Galaxy as an example) then like a silver for something extra, and a gold for getting all the stars in the game. Just a thought.

Yeah, I'd actually prefer this. Some achievements really irritate me, IIRC Dead Space had separate ones for completing the game using only one weapon, then another achievement for only using a different weapon, then another, etc... I'm not sure if I'm totally right with that because I certainly didn't bother attempting them, but that's the kind of thing that I dislike.

I like the idea that they put achievements in the 3DS and the Wii U. but as others say, I prefer to have something of value to get the achievement.

lol at the people expecting to get points for doing crap in game.

Not really bothered but they would be nice,mainly for bragging rights more than anything.
I don't think Nintendo would go with a Gamerscore as such but a feature that allowed your friends to see what games you completed and stuff would be cool.

I already posted this under the article about Wii U achievements, and in a now-closed thread, but I thought it might get more discussion if I posted it here.

I like the idea of achievements to a degree, but Playstation and Xbox take the concept too far. I mean seriously, getting achievements for playing through the story mode normally lessens the value of the awards, and having to get 30,000 kills puts some out of reach for the vast majority of players. I want Nintendo to have a system in place, but I don't want what the other systems have.

Here's my idea. Badges. No more than 5 badges could be gleaned from any one game, leaving no room for superfluous extras (ie "Killed your first enemy!" "Bought your first gun!" etc.). This would also prevent sales of poor games just to boost one's score; each game would add too little to make one or two matter. Ideally these badges would consist of goals like beating the game, collecting everything, beating hard mode, and the like.

Now's where it gets interesting. Rather than a total point score, a person's total badge number would appear to the public, but not all of the badges would be viewable. The player would have to pick 20-25 favorite badges to put on display. In other words, when someone looks at your profile they would see the badges you're most proud of rather than a cluttered list consisting of dozens, and eventually even hundreds of awards. Each award would feel more significant when viewed in a small group too.

Personally I think this system would work well for Nintendo. It's unique enough that nobody could say they just jumped on the achievement bandwagon, and matches their overall themes fairly well. They've used badges or badge-like things for years, probably starting with Pokemon, but also appearing in Paper Mario, and somewhat in Super Smash Bros.

I love the idea of getting a badge when I beat New Super Mario Wii U's main game, and then getting another when I unlock and beat those inevitable secret levels. Perhaps the latter could say "honorary Super Mario Bro"... But realistically, this setup could work well with every 1st party game Nintendo would make. The only games I would wonder about would be COD-type games.

That said, I don't play very many COD-type games. Anyway, any thoughts about my thoughts? Why it wouldn't work, or how it could be better?

Also, if you think a limit of 5 is too low, please mention some achievements that are worthy of badgehood but wouldn't fit under that limit.