Though I find Achievements and Trophies useless in general, they do add replay value to a game after awhile. Trophies were one of the reasons I played through the 1st Dead Space almost 4 times now, that and it's just an excellent game in my opinion.

I just dont get why people are complaining if the 3DS and WiiU have achievements or trophies? I personally think they are amazing and actually do add a level of challenge and replayablity to the game? Many games I played I came back to because I wanted their achievement or because the challenge of it. Like in resident evil 5, i came back and beat the game again for the achievement or some other games that pose a fun side activity to accomplish for an achievement is fun. Try playing mass effect and you'll see to what im referring too. achievements would also be cool because you could show your friends what you've done before, like in playing all of resident evil revelations without a herb or rocket launcher is quite a challenge but even if you do, do it then what? unless you have the game at all times how are you gonna show your friends or rivals? and considering Nintendo doesn't like the SD card saving game saves and instead have the cartridge save the game instead.

What if you got trophies or collectables instead of achievements, which could be used in software like an AR viewer.

"The point of achievements is that they're console wide and universal, not locked in to a game"

What do you mean by that? Do you mean that all those achievements can be viewed outside the game and that everyone can see them?

Well, Nintendo "achievements" also can be seen by everyone....if you put them in a youtube movie!!

It's pretty stupid to oppose achievements. It'd be like opposing actual user ids for an online infrastructure instead of friend codes. It doesn't hinder the gameplay experience in the slightest. I'm sure a million people over the course of time have said this but if you don't like them, just ignore them. But they should be a mandatory feature in all consoles from now on.

They are yes but wouldn't everyone like to display their achievements in say, the Vault in Brawl online with friends and the online community?
Nintendo's achievements, unlockables, call them what you will are in my opinion, the best kind and like I've said AND been barked at, they serve a purpose in that you actually achieve something for use in the game. I just don't like or see the point of 360 style achievements when compared to what Nintendo offer.

Xbox-esque achievements may be good yes for self satisaction but here in Nintendo land to achieve something often means unlocking something too. Self satisfaction and a little reward. Let's get these unlockables online for display.

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Using that logic, It's pretty stupid to have a differing opinion.

It's the logic behind the opinion, actually. At this point, the core gamers, the hobbyists, the ones that Nintendo is trying to appeal to, generally desire achievements. It's the norm, now, and it's expected of Nintendo to conform to this norm if they want to keep up. On top of that, it doesn't effect people who don't want them in any legitimate way. To put it simply, not wanting Nintendo to include achievements would be the same as not wanting Nintendo to make money.

i am definitely pro-trophies. I get a kick out of them and highly approve Nintendo adopting something similar. It would be nice to see them be the first to have trophy achievements and ranking up tied to some sort of tangible benefit.

The only time a trophy ever bothers me is if it pops up during a cutscene of an RPG or something and takes me out of the story for a second. But still that doesn't bother me too much.

I would love achievements. I usually don't chase achievements in most games, but when it comes to games I love I always try to do them. If Legend of Zelda had achievements you can be sure I'd go after those heart pieces!

It would be nice if they actually did something though, like doing something similar to play coins.

You know getting some achievements in Xbox and PS3 games give yo rewards too, right?

As long as the option is there for those that want them, i personally don't but you have to please both sides of the spectrum!
I'd happily disable Trophies in the Wii U menu myselt. There's nothing more annoying than a logo popping up in the corner of the screen saying "Congrats! You've just defeated 15 majini's!" like in RE5...totaly annoying stuff, and kind of sucked me out of the experience from time to time. Personally, i don't give a damn about trophies( for 'me' it's time well wasted), 'objectives' however are a different story like in Wario Land Shake it which are required to 100% the game for ex.

They already do include them :/
I'd just like them displayable..

I'd have no problem with that. I'd welcome achievements if anything. As long as they're not stupid like "defeat your first boss." Why the heck is that an achievement? I'm going to do it anyway! I swear there was a game where an achievement was "turn on the game." They don't need to be ridiculous, but they don't need to be brain dead easy either.

Play coins would be a great idea. Maybe transfer them between Wii U and 3DS. Earn coins by playing.
Maybe have a Mii clothing shop for example. Items could be bought with coins as the currency.
Not to be a blowhard guys, but keep up the 360 comparisons and I fear you'll be disappointed

Oh, so now you just want them displayable? Well, all they have to do is follow their competitor's example. Anyone can view your achievements and trophies very easily on other consoles. You can even get a gamer card that you can link to or put in your signature on a forum. So long as Nintendo does that, and honestly I don't think they're dumb enough not to, they'll be fine.

Like I've already said, just make displayable what's already there. Don't add 360-esque achievements for the sake of it. There is no need. Nintendo already include them.

And I know that :/ I've owned 3, 360's

Okay, now I don't even know what you're talking about anymore, but I'm very sure you just contradicted yourself. I will Nitpick one little thing however: No body else puts achievements on Nintendo games. So obviously they do need an achievement system, because Nintendo won't be the only one making games for the Wii U.

I'm obviously on my own in relation to Nintendo not emulating the other consoles. If you want point based achievements, get a 360. If you want trophy's, get a PS3. Me? I personally don't want either of those. Just give me what's already there and add improved hardware, software and online capabilities but please, please, please don't give me a Nintendo 360.