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Topic: Should Satoru Iwata Get Fired And Replaced With Someone New?

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FilmerNgameR

61. Posted:

If Nintendo bombs E3 then yes.

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WaLzgi

62. Posted:

Gawd, I don't think even the Wii U can trump the Virtual Boy in terms of failure

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63. Posted:

UGXwolf wrote:

SMEXIZELDAMAN wrote:

Of course he should. Why not? He is responsible for all of Nintendo's greatest failures after all.

The Virtual Boy laughs at this.

So does the Wii, DS, and 3DS.

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kkslider5552000

64. Posted:

Bolt_Strike wrote:

At the very least, we should wait until E3 before pondering this question again.

Agreed.

Ok let me put this simply...
-Iwata has acknowledged that the Gamepad wasn't used enough for unique Wii U ideas
-He has also stated there will be new ways to get the Nintendo brand and IPs out there via merchandise and marketing and apps via mobile
-Nintendo has actively been giving out IPs to 3rd party developers that will likely get more noticed than they usually do outside of Japan, thus being more popular outside of Japan thanks to Nintendo (in theory at least)
-Nintendo continues to show strong support towards indies, with their appearance at I believe GDC being almost exclusively about that
-Miyamoto has basically (if not flat-out) stated that post-Mario Kart 8 releases will be far more interesting. E3 is literally weeks after Mario Kart 8's release.
-Mario platforming has proven to be a failure in its attempts to be the be-all end-all solution for Nintendo's problems
-When Iwata unveiled the localized ver. of the 3DS Chibi Robo, he specifically pointed out that people had been wanting to see a return for certain game series (or something like that)
-Nintendo is why Bravely Default (and later) Layton vs. Wright are coming to America
-Nintendo is treating Bayonetta 2 like it actually matters

I fail to see why you wouldn't give this another chance, these are all good things.

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Panamae

65. Posted:

kkslider5552000 wrote:

-Iwata has acknowledged that the Gamepad wasn't used enough for unique Wii U ideas

Like letting a second player play in Mario Kart 8 using only the gamepad+screen? Sonic Racing did it :(

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MAN1AC

66. Posted:

He won't end this gen as Nintendo's CEO.
The ppl campaigning for Iwata have nothing to back up their stance outside of "look at the Wii and DS" which is a very weak argument.

Four more months until Bayonetta 2.

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WaLzgi

67. Posted:

MAN1AC wrote:

He won't end this gen as Nintendo's CEO.
The ppl campaigning for Iwata have nothing to back up their stance outside of "look at the Wii and DS" which is a very weak argument.

Satoru Iwata has 77% approval rating: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/07/investor_approval_ra...

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Dinosaurs

68. Posted:

Pachter started this kind of talk. I'm not yet convinced he was doing any better than this thread of many people talking out of their rears.

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MAN1AC

69. Posted:

Unca_Lz wrote:

MAN1AC wrote:

He won't end this gen as Nintendo's CEO.
The ppl campaigning for Iwata have nothing to back up their stance outside of "look at the Wii and DS" which is a very weak argument.

Satoru Iwata has 77% approval rating: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/07/investor_approval_ra...

2010 - 96.74%
2011 - 92.89%
2012 - 90.60%
2013 - 77.26%

This isnt a positive.
However I think those that are saying wait for E3 are looking for something that's not going to be there. I doubt he will be going anywhere until their QOL initiatives are released and assessed by investors and other board members.

Four more months until Bayonetta 2.

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WaLzgi

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What's your basis then?

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64supermario

71. Posted:

What about the Wii, DS, and 3DS? Just because the Wii U isn't doing well doesn't mean we should overlook the fact that he's done good, great even in the past. Also I enjoy watching him in directs :P

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skywake

72. Posted:

19Robb92 wrote:

As for the WiiU, it's worse than both N64 & GC. It has a lower attach rate than both &, unlike N64 & GC, it's sold at a loss. At least GC & N64 were profitable.

You do realise that the attach rate (tie ratio) tends to grow over the life of the product right? The fact that the Wii U has n tie ratio of just under 4, the N64 was just under 7 (which is actually pretty bad for EOL) and the Gamecube almost 10 is kinda meaningless at this point. Because those consoles had a full library of content and owners who brought games for them over years. You don't buy a console and all of your games for it on day one or even in the first year.

Also worth noting that of all the current gen consoles including handhelds the Wii U is first on tie ratio. It goes:
Wii U: 3.8
3DS: 3.1
XBOne: 2.9
PSV: 2.8
PS4: 2.3

So basically if you looked at the typical person who owns each of these consoles the Wii U owner has more games to play. Period. The PS4 owner is at the other end of the spectrum. Why? Well partly because the Wii U has been out longer. Also because typically when a console is a hit, like the PS4, it attracts more casual users. Yup, PS4 is now the home of the dirty casual.

Seriously, if you're going to spread the FUD at least come up with something that's vague enough that someone can't call BS. It's even better for Nintendo than these number suggest really. Mostly because if you're an average user buying four games for Wii U right now what games will they be? Obvious isn't it? Nintendo Land, New SMB U, 3D World and Wind Waker HD. Nintendo double dips. You really think it's not going to be profitable?

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sinalefa

73. Posted:

It would be ironic to fire Iwata when he has made sure that none of his employees have been fired, as any other CEO would do. And I have never heard of anyone wanting to fire Kaz Hirai or Yoshida for the Vita's less than stellar performance. Did any of them take a salary cut because of that?

Iwata has had 3 successful systems in a row, one of them the second best selling system of all time. I would be more than willing to give him a chance.

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74. Posted:

This thread completely.

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brewsky

75. Posted:

So, Iwata misses once after three successes. What do we do? Fire Iwata?

Bzzt! Wrong answer!

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skywake

76. Posted:

Oh and another thing...........

kereke12 wrote:

Here's why. Did you know that Satoru Iwata approval rating has dropped over the past 3 YEARS IN A ROW! (That basically investers wanted him gone) But for some reason he's still the president?

OP fails to mention that his approval rating has dropped form 93% to 77%. 77% isn't "investors want him gone", 77% is "now about one in four dudes isn't happy with his management instead of one in 14". To put it another way a recent thing in Australia has been a proposal to raise the retirement age (i.e. the age you can get an aged pension) from 65 to 70. THAT is more popular amongst the Australian population than giving Iwata the boot is amongst the Nintendo's board.

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AJ_Lethal

77. Posted:

The question is: with who?

Seriously, Nintendo is not in such screwed situation to fire Iwata (unlike Sony, who are bleeding money left and right), a sudden change at the top when things are wobbly does not necessarily means improvement; do you think this a bloddy soccer team, where "change the coach=instant championship win"? Please, even in sports that's a lie (look at Costa Rica when the switched coaches road to the 2010 World Cup, it was a complete disaster) Not to mention Iwata himself declared the rest of FY2013 as a writeoff. He rather thinks at medium-long term (thing you guys should know by now), unlike many Western companies which are very, very shortsighted.

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DudeSean

78. Posted:

Personally, I'm very happy with both the 3DS and Wii U as gaming systems. Really, the only problem for either of them is lack of third party support. I think microsoft and sony have spoiled third parties because I'm sure they pay lots of money to them for exclusive rights or even just to have the game on their system. It's like when Activision was saying that Nintendo should have payed them for exclusive rights for Skylanders. Also the Darth Maul game where they expected Nintendo to fund them for some reason. And publishers think that graphics sell games, so they only like to publish games for systems that have the best graphics.

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Gamer83

79. Posted:

The Wii U isn't selling, 3DS is doing well but not as well as the shareholders would like and the company has had to cut forecasts. Based on that, people will say he should probably be replaced. The thing is, all the gamers championing for this, you're pretty damn clueless. One thing I'll give Iwata is that he's had the guts to stand up to these idiotic shareholders who have utterly NO CLUE about the industry who think mobile is the answer to everything. Look at Square Enix, none of their mobile initiative has helped. Look at Capcom, it's even worse there with that company going as far as to blame poor performance of mobile games as part of its problem. So these f'ing idiots who think this is the way to go, they're wrong, dead wrong but there's no doubt if Iwata is replaced they're going to replace him with some moron who will take Nintendo in exactly that direction. Sometimes it's best to just go with who you have. It's not like Nintendo is in danger of going out of business. And if people think things are bad now, well just see what happens if clueless fools with money get their way. It won't be pretty.

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FilmerNgameR

80. Posted:

@Gamer83: wow, very well said. Hopefully Nintendo doesn't go in the mobile route.

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