Topic: Should Nintendo jump in the HD Remaster, Remake and Ports Craze?

^^ummmm no.
Small i.e for why I say ummm no to that last one.
Skyward Sword wasn't delayed due to Ocarina of Time 3D -though i wish it was so it could have been a Wii U launch title like TP was for the Wii-
A Link between worlds wasn't delayed due to Wind Waker HD
Since Nintendo hands remakes to small groups of developers and partially to second party (like Grezzo) I highly doubt many games will be delayed due to the exsistance of a remake... I personally wanna see more remakes because for one, theres alot of old games I missed out on and alot of great games that could be made even better than they were before.

@Diddy_Kong I also don't get why people are so against remakes, I'd rather pay 50 for a game like Wind Waker HD -prime example for me- than a $100 more+ for the original GCN disc I missed out on, sure I could get it used but I HATE getting discs used due to damage/ misuse from the previous owner... and this can go for alot of other GCN and N64 titles that I missed out on. Also Nintendo has said it themselves that remakes do not take up much of their internal resources so those worrying about new games being delayed due to remakes really shouldn't worry, its Nintendo, they will prioritize the new game over the remake as they usually do. Also I doubt Nintendo would enter a remaster craze like the one third parties are involved releasing a remaster every 2 months or less it seems in with the other consoles, Nintendo tends to have a thing with spacing out the length of time between remakes, or just releasing compliations.

Comparing the timeline of Nintendo remakes to the timeline of remakes by every single third party is illogical

Compare Sony/Nintendo or Microsoft/Nintendo. Saying Nintendo won't 'enter a remake craze' like others makes little sense when no single company is producing a ton of remakes.

when no single company is producing a ton of remakes
Capcom says hi

@AlexSays
Oh, Alex. You should know better than to use logic in discussions here!
_{BTW, always glad to see you poke your head in here again, my brother.}

What remakes are Capcom releasing every two months or less, as you claim?

It's good to see you too man. Always nice to see a familiar old friend around here

Well what I attempted to say was Nintendo knows how to use time management with remakes to actual new games, saying you don't like remakes because you feel new games will get delayed soly because Nintendo wants to re-release an old game, is illogical since the past shows that it hasn't happend yet.

Then get all excited when games like Majoras mask which i am excited for because someone is going to misread this and ORAS get announced, also makes statements like , i hate remakes highly contradictory since these same people are falling head over heels for them~

I'd like: Super Mario Sunshine HD
Ocarina of Time HD
Majora's Mask HD
Mario Galaxy 3 HD
Luigi's Mansion 3HD
Paper Mario and Thousand Year Door HD
The Legend of Zelda 3d HD
A Link between Worlds HD
Not on Wii U, but on some Nintendo console at some point!

Paper Mario remasters + a new game that returns to those games roots and a new Luigi's Mansion would be perfect for the Wii U!

It'd make great use of the game pad, especially if it was in first person!

@renaryuugufan92
But didn't it take 6 months or something like that to remake Wind Waker and that time was taken away from Zelda U? Didn't the team use Wind Waker HD to become more familiar with the Wii U hardware so they could take that knowledge and make ZeldaU? Not every remake means a delayed game but if they took that money and made a new game instead I would be happy. It isn't that I dislike remakes, I just dislike cash-in remakes. If you aren't adding to the gameplay or delivering to a new audience then what is the point? As good as I think Twilight Princess would look in HD (I don't think Skyward would look as good honestly) I don't want them to do remakes just to fill in gaps or make money. I want remakes that add something new. If they are just going to make them to fill in gaps I would rather they make new smaller games (like Dillon's Rolling Western or Pushmo)

I was baffled at why this thread was 5 pages within a few hours of opening. Then I saw who the main contributor to it was. Oh.

Anyway, yes. I think it would be a financially safe decision to do quick-and-dirty remasters like we saw on the PS3 towards the end of the gen (God of War Collection, Jak & Daxter trilogy, etc, etc). They're quite inexpensive, have very short development time, and can be outsourced to any small studio that needs a job. In most cases, it's just rendering it in HD and slapping them together in a pack of 2-4. They would be good to insert during droughts. Or, in some cases, as a promotional tool. Example: Metroid Prime Trilogy HD with control options, $30-40, released about 6 months before a new Metroid game.

Havent they already with Wind Waker, Ocarina of Time and Major's Mask?

Those seem to have taken a lot of time/resources on Nintendo's part. Not really feasible to do on any scale larger than remasters of a few of their most popular games of all time, and even those are far between.

What would make more sense, in my opinion, would be something like Super Mario All-Stars HD with SM64, SMS, SMG, and SMG2 packed in one and rendered in 720/1080p. No other work necessary, just the rendering and packing. It would be fast, cheap, and Nintendo could outsource the development to any competent 3rd party. This could be done with all of their major IPs and just thrown in those dry months.

Personally, I would love a Fire Emblem: Radiance collection in HD.

Yeah, as @Tasuki mentioned, they've already done quite a few this gen.

• Wind Waker HD (Wii U)
• Wii Sports Club (Wii U)
• Ocarina of Time 3D (3DS)
• Star Fox 64 3D (3DS)
• Majora's Mask 3D (3DS)

Not really, there's a huge difference between those 3 games and the vast majority of playstation and xbox HD remasters/remakes/ports namely when the original game came out. Wind Waker was 9 years old, Ocarina of Time was 13 years old and Majora's Mask will be 15 years old when it's released. In comparison the competition's original releases occur 1-2 years before the remake happens. Nintendo's common sense is backed up by their choice to make the Wii U and 3DS backwards compatible with Wii and DS games respectively whereas the PS4 and XB1 not being backwards compatible with PS3 and 360 respectively means Sony and Microsoft can make their console essentially a port console and people will still buy in huge waves.

Skyward Sword would especially if you saw this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ena3EKeAzC0, for me Wind Waker was a worthwhile purchase and it did have game-play tweaks that made the flow of the game smoother, and to be fair the game really didn't need many and yes it was used as a resource by the Zelda U team, though that game was going to be 2015 bound regardless due to smash taking up 2014, as I said before Nintendo likes to space things out. Despite this we can assume that Zelda U will benefit largely from this and if we wanna get technical then A Link Between Worlds a new game also took away from Zelda U as it too was a testing ground to see if a non-linear/fully open world Zelda game was what we all want, and from the results of that they fully greenlited their project on the Wii U zelda last December, with working betas and prototypes of course. BUT I'm just pulling things out of my head just from the notion that Wind Waker took away from Zelda U to learn things for that game, which ALBW also did, both were testing grounds one for hardware, the other for gameplay. Back on topic I don't think Nintendo will enter a real remake craze . At the most I could see Nintendo doing 2 remake releases at the most per year, anymore than that and they would be getting alot of flack from fans and the critics. However, remakes are welcome in my book, especially if the game remade is something that is either A. I never played or B. has had alot of worthwhile improvements over the original to justify a purchase/ second dip, and for wind waker the reasoning was choice A, and for Majora's Mask my reasoning will be choice B.

Aside from this the only remaster I really want next year the obvious Majoras' Mask 3D is a Mario All-Stars 2 pack for the 30th anniversary of SMB, and it'd be great if it had the 3d console games up till 3D World. Though thats just me.

I really dislike arguing on forums though, some of us think its just fine to have remakes and some just don't want them, its a double edges sword and no ones right, but I personally want them and know that I will more then likely enjoy them very much, and I will enjoy all the new games we get as well!

Sunshine HD needs to happen, as its the only 3D Mario that is different though conroversial. It was the only one not set in Mushroom Kingdom (or the like, surrounding typical worlds in Mario games). Is also the last explorative less linear 3D Mario.

Also, Luigi's Mansion should be remade for Wii U or 3DS as it would allow folks to play the original title and its sequel consecutively.

Who cares if folks don't like remakes. Wind Waker HD sold 1 mill, no? That's one of the main things that Nintendo will see as an incentive to doing similar remakes. But of course, HD remakes like WW HD will likely hold more than a res bump, unlike other games on other consoles.

If a remake is done well I don't see what the problem is. Particularly with stuff that's a decade or more old it's nice to see updated textures, better models and improved controls. Ocarina of Time 3D and Wind Waker HD are pretty much the standard for this sort of thing in my mind.

What I'm not particularly interested in is the HD remakes of fairly new stuff just to pad out the library. All of the stuff like that on the PS4 in particular, feels a bit weird for them to be doing a HD remake of a game that's only a year or so old. Particularly when it's basically the same as what PC gamers had been enjoying since launch anyway. I know there's a lot of work involved but to the end user a lot of these "HD remasters" are a bit "we went into the graphical settings, changed texture resolution from Medium to Ultra and now we're charging full RRP again".

Having said that, Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess. Both of those games were very, very limited by the Wii's hardware in terms of visuals. Twilight Princess had very, very low resolution textures and the whole game had a very soft look about it. Skyward Sword on the other had had a style which worked pretty well with the Wii, but like Wind Waker it's a style that looks even better in HD. So yeah, I wouldn't mind some HD remasters..... just as long as it's actually worth it.

This is pretty much my stance on the subject as well. Very good post.

GC HD remakes please! Sunshine, Mansion, Eternal Darkness, Path of Radiance and throw in Radiant Dawn Wii, Pikmin 1&2 HD to complete the trilogy on the Wii U.