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Zygor

Should i get a HDTV or use a PC Monitor for Wii U Gaming, i am confused on which to play on i want a HDTV or Monitor with low input lag so i don't get ghosting, Blurriness etcetera. Should i get 60 Hz Refresh rate or 120Hz?

Should i get 720p or 1080p do Wii U games play on 720p or 1080p?

The games i currently play on Wii U = Super Mario 3D World, Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze, Mario Kart 8, Pikmin 3 , Hyrule Warriors , Super mario bros u, The Legend of Zelda The Wind Waker HD Wii u

Games i plan on playing = Super Smash Bro's Wii u , New Zelda 2015 , Captain Toads treasure hunt, Yoshi's wolly world

Just thought i would list the games i am playing to decide 720p or 1080p or Refresh rate

i might also buy a ps4 so if it works for both that would be good

If i buy a monitor i want to be able to plug my headphones in and if i buy a HDTV i want to be able to plug my headphones in for audio but would i be getting the sound quality audio from the TV/Monitor or would the audio sound better because i have a good pair of headphones?

I don't want to spend too much money but i want a very nice quality picture budget range probably 400-500$

if i get a monitor i prefer IPS or PLS and HDTV prob LED but we will see

Zygor

sub12

Pretty much any HDTV will support 1080p these days, I would aim for a 240hz or above refresh rate, the overall smoothness is noticeable, and you'll never go for less afterwards. 4K is not supported by this current generation of consoles, so save yourself some money and get a high refresh rate.

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sub12

This is what I'm currently using, so far little to no complaints if your looking for something in the 1000 dollar range.

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN46H7150-46-Inch-1080p-240Hz/d...

Most Wii U games are native 720p, but they are upscaled to 1080p, so you'll want something 1080p compatible.

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unrandomsam

Ideally you want a digital signage monitor if it is just for the Wii U.

You can get a decent size and response time.

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Dreamz

I tackled this same issue earlier this year when I decided to grab a Wii U. While the features of gaming monitors are nice, at the end it came down to the fact that I could grab a much larger HDTV with acceptable response time at a much lower cost than I could a similarly sized monitor. If money's no issue, sure, go HD monitor route, otherwise I would recommend grabbing an HDTV that will be about half the price for same size.

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Faruko

Try to get a 1080p monitor if you are going to buy a PS4, HDTVs are good too but if you can afford a monitor for gaming, go for it... a goo monitor with low refresh, good colors, etc... its alway better

if wasnt because i prefer having my consoles on the living room, ill would use the PS4/WiiU (to be fair, i do it from time to time when i dont have nothing to do at night) on my PC gaming monitor

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SCRAPPER392

I think an HDTV with 1080p is a must. You could buy a monitor, but if it doesn't have the RGB settings, the colors and blacks/whites won't show up right. If you don't have the right audio equipment to go with it, you'll be stuck with headphones and will have to shell out more cash if you ever want to take the headphones off, and I think it's always a good idea to have those options.

Other than that, the refresh rate and other features are entirely up to you. The only machines that I've ever seen go past 60Hz are PCs, so if you aren't gaming on PC at all, it will be pretty pointless to get anything over 60Hz. IMO.It is true that 120Hz is a bit smoother picture, but you might notice 30FPS games quadruple the same picture. 120Hz technically isn't showing you anything more than a 60Hz can with 60FPS content. All 120Hz does is fill in frames with pre-existing frames, if there isn't data to be shown otherwise, which is why the only real reason why you would want 120Hz or higher is if you actually have content over 60Hz to see on screen.

Insignia has some nice screens that are fairly simple in design and features without costing a fortune, and most of them have a 8ms or lower response time, which is very good compared to most other HDTVs on the market.

EDIT: http://www.insigniaproducts.com/products/televisions.html
http://www.insigniaproducts.com/products/televisions/NS-48D51...
6.5ms responce time
Their 120Hz HDTVs don't mention anything about having that low of a response time. So any lower of a response time and higher of a refresh rate with low response time would need to be had through a monitor, which is when you decide whether or not an external speaker system is needed as well or whether it has the right color an black/white features.

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sub12

SCAR392 wrote:

I think an HDTV with 1080p is a must. You could buy a monitor, but if it doesn't have the RGB settings, the colors and blacks/whites won't show up right. If you don't have the right audio equipment to go with it, you'll be stuck with headphones and will have to shell out more cash if you ever want to take the headphones off, and I think it's always a good idea to have those options.

Other than that, the refresh rate and other features are entirely up to you. The only machines that I've ever seen go past 60Hz are PCs, so if you aren't gaming on PC at all, it will be pretty pointless to get anything over 60Hz. IMO.It is true that 120Hz is a bit smoother picture, but you might notice 30FPS games quadruple the same picture. 120Hz technically isn't showing you anything more than a 60Hz can with 60FPS content. All 120Hz does is fill in frames with pre-existing frames, if there isn't data to be shown otherwise, which is why the only real reason why you would want 120Hz or higher is if you actually have content over 60Hz to see on screen.

Insignia has some nice screens that are fairly simple in design and features without costing a fortune, and most of them have a 8ms response time, which is very good compared to most other HDTVs on the market.

240hz or above makes a big difference IMO, 30 fps games are a much smoother affair, and it's amazing when you hook up a SNES and watch how fluid everything is animated.

If you have to, refresh rate over resolution, that's just my two cents, but why not go for both if it's in your price range.

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R_Champ

Faruko wrote:

a goo monitor with low refresh, good colors, etc... its alway better

The only answer is a Plasma TV...LOL, OK it's not the only answer but it was an EASY choice for me. Reasons I went with one:

-Much cheaper now that they aren't popular anymore
-True Black (No other TV/Monitor boasts this...yet...)
-I can plug in my computer into it and have big-screen PC gaming as well
-Worried about refresh rates? LOL no you aren't, not with a plasma TV. I played the Bayo 2 Demo (and many other fast-paced games), no tearing, no blurring, no input lag...perfect.

Downsides:

-Not good in bright rooms (tons of windows)
-Uses more power

Don't be afraid to do some research on it. Their are fanboys for every type of TV and Monitor, but plasma was pretty much MADE for gaming (perfect refresh rates)...as long as it's not in a really bright room

And if you do go Plasma go either Panasonic or Samsung

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Zygor

SCAR392 wrote:

I think an HDTV with 1080p is a must. You could buy a monitor, but if it doesn't have the RGB settings, the colors and blacks/whites won't show up right. If you don't have the right audio equipment to go with it, you'll be stuck with headphones and will have to shell out more cash if you ever want to take the headphones off, and I think it's always a good idea to have those options.

Other than that, the refresh rate and other features are entirely up to you. The only machines that I've ever seen go past 60Hz are PCs, so if you aren't gaming on PC at all, it will be pretty pointless to get anything over 60Hz. IMO.It is true that 120Hz is a bit smoother picture, but you might notice 30FPS games quadruple the same picture. 120Hz technically isn't showing you anything more than a 60Hz can with 60FPS content. All 120Hz does is fill in frames with pre-existing frames, if there isn't data to be shown otherwise, which is why the only real reason why you would want 120Hz or higher is if you actually have content over 60Hz to see on screen.

Insignia has some nice screens that are fairly simple in design and features without costing a fortune, and most of them have a 8ms response time, which is very good compared to most other HDTVs on the market.

Ya i was thinking about getting a HDTV i just didn't know what one to get.

i mainly game on PC but i love Wii U so i play that too my very first games i played was Nintendo so it has a special place in my heart i just want a good screen to play on. picture quality(colour also) is a must though i don't want to skimp out on that if i end up having to spend more than 500$ i guess i can i just won't be able to buy it right now it would have to wait. i also want to be able to watch tv on it because i watch alot of TV but i want a TV that i can hook my headphones up to because i don't want others hearing what im playing i live in a small house with 4 people so i need to be able to plug my headphones in but having the option of having speakers play out loud is good too i assume all HDTVs have that option though so i am pretty much just looking for a TV i can hook my headphones up to

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SCRAPPER392

Zygor wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

I think an HDTV with 1080p is a must. You could buy a monitor, but if it doesn't have the RGB settings, the colors and blacks/whites won't show up right. If you don't have the right audio equipment to go with it, you'll be stuck with headphones and will have to shell out more cash if you ever want to take the headphones off, and I think it's always a good idea to have those options.

Other than that, the refresh rate and other features are entirely up to you. The only machines that I've ever seen go past 60Hz are PCs, so if you aren't gaming on PC at all, it will be pretty pointless to get anything over 60Hz. IMO.It is true that 120Hz is a bit smoother picture, but you might notice 30FPS games quadruple the same picture. 120Hz technically isn't showing you anything more than a 60Hz can with 60FPS content. All 120Hz does is fill in frames with pre-existing frames, if there isn't data to be shown otherwise, which is why the only real reason why you would want 120Hz or higher is if you actually have content over 60Hz to see on screen.

Insignia has some nice screens that are fairly simple in design and features without costing a fortune, and most of them have a 8ms response time, which is very good compared to most other HDTVs on the market.

Ya i was thinking about getting a HDTV i just didn't know what one to get.

i mainly game on PC but i love Wii U so i play that too my very first games i played was Nintendo so it has a special place in my heart i just want a good screen to play on. picture quality(colour also) is a must though i don't want to skimp out on that if i end up having to spend more than 500$ i guess i can i just won't be able to buy it right now it would have to wait. i also want to be able to watch tv on it because i watch alot of TV but i want a TV that i can hook my headphones up to because i don't want others hearing what im playing i live in a small house with 4 people so i need to be able to plug my headphones in but having the option of having speakers play out loud is good too

I edited my post with a link to a 48" 1080p 60Hz LED HDTV with a 6.5ms response time and other features you might wabt to look into. I have the 2012 Insignia 39" 1080p LCD 60Hz model(which has a response time of 8ms, instead of 6.5 to newer models), so I can vouche for you that the response time is actually very low on these displays, and if you still want to watch TV, then HDTV is the only way. There is basically a headphone jack on every HDTV, including this one, so that's not a problem.

http://www.insigniaproducts.com/products/televisions/NS-48D51...

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Zygor

R_Champ wrote:

Faruko wrote:

a goo monitor with low refresh, good colors, etc... its alway better

The only answer is a Plasma TV...LOL, OK it's not the only answer but it was an EASY choice for me. Reasons I went with one:

-Much cheaper now that they aren't popular anymore
-True Black (No other TV/Monitor boasts this...yet...)
-I can plug in my computer into it and have big-screen PC gaming as well
-Worried about refresh rates? LOL no you aren't, not with a plasma TV. I played the Bayo 2 Demo (and many other fast-paced games), no tearing, no blurring, no input lag...perfect.

Downsides:

-Not good in bright rooms (tons of windows)
-Uses more power

Don't be afraid to do some research on it. Their are fanboys for every type of TV and Monitor, but plasma was pretty much MADE for gaming (perfect refresh rates)...as long as it's not in a really bright room

And if you do go Plasma go either Panasonic or Samsung

Unfortunately i wont be able to get a plasma because where i game its always well lit also windows with lots of light i don't have my own basement with no light to play in

Zygor

SCRAPPER392

sub12 wrote:

240hz or above makes a big difference IMO, 30 fps games are a much smoother affair, and it's amazing when you hook up a SNES and watch how fluid everything is animated.

If you have to, refresh rate over resolution, that's just my two cents, but why not go for both if it's in your price range.

I don't think so. I see 60Hz content double, even on a 120Hz screen. So unless you have that 120Hz content, you'll see frames go 2-4× in a row.

If consoles ran at 120Hz, I would have bought a 120Hz HDTV, no questions asked, but without the content that actually runs at that speed, resolution is better.

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skywake

sub12 wrote:

240hz or above makes a big difference IMO, 30 fps games are a much smoother affair, and it's amazing when you hook up a SNES and watch how fluid everything is animated.

If you have to, refresh rate over resolution, that's just my two cents, but why not go for both if it's in your price range.

Those high refresh rate TVs are a bit of a con. They do the "higher Hz" but it's not a higher refresh rate, it's them doing tricks with backlight strobing and post-processing. If they look smoother to you then cool but be aware that it's probably a bit of a placebo effect. It's marketing. When people actually talk about refresh rates for monitors they're usually talking about how many times per second a display can draw an image on the screen. I'm willing to bet that your 240Hz TV is at most doing 120Hz because that's the speed needed for 3D (120Hz = 60Hz per eye). When you plug in a Wii U it'll be running at 60Hz.

As for the OP. Well if you want something to sit on your desk or in your room then I'd go with a computer monitor. Purely because they're usually built for more intense scrutiny at lower sizes. TVs smaller than around 30" are built to be as cheap as possible, computer monitors only really go upto about 30" so you can get some very, very nice panels. Personally I've heard good things about Asus' panels. I've been eyeing them off myself as a monitor upgrade.

Something along the lines of this: http://www.asus.com/au/Monitors_Projectors/MX239H/
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VolcanoFlamesNL wrote:

https://m.mightyape.co.nz/product/Samsung-SyncMaster-24-Wide-...
I used to use this Samsung HD monitor to play my Wii U. The colors are very bright and sharp. Unfortunately, I don't know much about specs but I think it's a great monitor.

That's a good example of why I think an HDTV is the only real option for a console like the Wii U - while I'm sure the monitor itself is great, 24" just isn't really usable if you plan to use it anywhere other than a desk.

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SCRAPPER392

Meh. I would just get an HDTV. I haven't ever seen a monitor provide the type of value an HDTV does. Monitors seem great in concept, but they are usually overpriced and/or don't offer much benefit over anything an HDTV can provide. You're basically not going to get a <6.5ms on a screen size 32" or higher, so you can either decide between a small low lag screen, or make the jump to a bigger screen.

The only reason why you would be getting more lag from a bigger screen in the first place, is because the picture is bigger and takes more time to physically fill with visual data. You basically aren't going to get the benefits of 1080p without a bigger screen than 32", as well, so that's one more point against monitors.

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skywake

SCAR392 wrote:

Meh. I would just get an HDTV. I haven't ever seen a monitor provide the type of value an HDTV does. Monitors seem great in concept, but they are usually overpriced and/or don't offer much benefit over anything an HDTV can provide. You're basically not going to get a <6.5ms on a screen size 32" or higher, so you can either decide between a small low lag screen, or make the jump to a bigger screen.

Depends on what you get and what you need. Looking at one of the better/cheaper of the local electronics retailers around here the cheapest decent brand TV is a 32" Samsung for $400AU. It's not 1080p, it's 50Hz and it has 2x HDMI inputs. If I wander over to the computer section and check out the very nice IPS monitors that same $400 can get you a 1080p 27" IPS monitor from ASUS with the same sort of inputs. Even before you consider the sort of places where a smaller screen with a higher resolution will make sense (I'll get to that) I'd still grab the monitor in this case. If I didn't need the HDTV tuner and was using it as a "gaming screen". Plus I can tell you now that that monitor will handle input lag better than the bargain brand-name TV. At these lower prices/sizes a monitor will pretty much always make more sense.

SCAR392 wrote:

The only reason why you would be getting more lag from a bigger screen in the first place, is because the picture is bigger and takes more time to physically fill with visual data. You basically aren't going to get the benefits of 1080p without a bigger screen than 32", as well, so that's one more point against monitors.

The size thing is a non-issue for input lag. Give us a break. We're talking about a screens that are even at the most a meter or so from one point to another. If I can get less than 1ms from one side of the house to the other over Ethernet I'm sure they can do the same on a TV where they can control everything. Secondly there's the fact that different sizes and pixel densities make sense for different applications. The OP was talking about wanting to plug their headphones into the monitor, clearly they weren't going to be sitting 5m away from the screen.

Plus, I can personally notice the difference between the pixel density of my 32" 1080p screen and my 46" 32" screen at a couple of m. The 32" screen looks sharper. Not enough that I'd laugh at the people who say you don't need it but enough to see it and go "wow, that's really sharp". Which is why when it's said that 4K only makes sense at sizes above 55"? I say yeah, fair enough. I wouldn't buy a 55"+ TV now without seriously considering 4K as an option. Because technically 4K at 60" is the same as asking for 1080p at 32" and you can see it. Just like how I can see how bad 1/4 of that resolution looks in comparison (480p/1080p). And that's standing a little bit back, on a desk? That pixel density "want" can easily be bumped up 4x.

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