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CanisWolfred

81. Posted:

LzQuacker wrote:

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@Sony_70 exactly. The PS3 and 360 both have twice the sales as the 3DS.

But you didn't read my full quote like others pointed out ;)

Who says it has to be a "Current gen" game (at least by your stupid definition)?

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82. Posted:

Considering that Atlus has stuff in development on competitor systems (Disgaea 4 on Vita comes to mind) I don't know if they'd be willing to go with Nintendo.

Frankly, Atlus is also a publisher, and Nintendo wouldn't need the publishing parts of Atlus, as it's already established as a publishing entity. I feel like Atlus would be more valuable to a 3rd party that may want to extend its publishing reach to the US, like Level 5 or Rising Star.

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They better not. I want Persona 5 on anything but the Wii U or 3DS.

The thing you said most that bothers me, to have this game on every other platform including pc but not a Nintendo console...it's not like you have to buy it, oh sure you are putting this game on a console with not many owners but every game helps out the console.

It's Persona 5. It deserves to be on the best hardware available, with the most sales possible. That just happens to be anything but the Wii U and 3DS.

Persona 4 was a PS2 game that came out in 2008. Based on that logic, it should go to the weakest hardware. Which happens to be the Wii U. :p
From a sales perspective, though, I doubt Persona 5 would be hurt at all by being a 3DS game. The thing is growing to become a nest for quality JRPGs, and it's not like Atlus doesn't have experience with the platform. I doubt it'd be impacted negatively from a creative standpoint either. Their games never push boundaries when it comes to the graphics.

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83. Posted:

U mad bro? PS3 and 360 have been out for a lot longer...

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SCAR392

84. Posted:

CanisWolfred wrote:

LzQuacker wrote:

CanisWolfred wrote:

@Sony_70 exactly. The PS3 and 360 both have twice the sales as the 3DS.

But you didn't read my full quote like others pointed out ;)

Who says it has to be a "Current gen" game (at least by your stupid definition)?

The point is that your argument jumped from "it should be on the strongest hardware available", to now being a generation behind(Xbox 360/PS3) that is weaker than what you were arguing against(Wii U).
That doesn't make much sense to go back on your first initial argument.
The topic is Atlus and Nintendo. Why, how, and why nots are being discussed, but your argument doesn't count because it contradicted itself 2 times in a row, being that Persona 4 a PS2 game and didn't necessarily have to be suggested as a high demanding game, then realizing that fault and suggesting anything else besides what people were in the first place.

EDIT: Also, if Persona 5 doesn't have to be current gen, it would be a PSP game. That doesn't make much sense either, because 3DS is still more powerful to run games than the PSP is.
It doesn't make much sense why they would release a remake on PS Vita, then a sequel on the PSP.

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85. Posted:

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Considering that Atlus has stuff in development on competitor systems (Disgaea 4 on Vita comes to mind) I don't know if they'd be willing to go with Nintendo.

Disgaea 4 is actually a Nippon Ichi Software game, and is on the PS3. I think you're thinking Persona 4: Golden. :) Just a friendly heads up.

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jcags

86. Posted:

I believe this would be very beneficial for the following reasons:

1) Nintendo has needed to borrow resources from different teams due to inexperience with HD, Atlus has plenty of experience with HD.
2) They could develop some of the lesser used franchises like Star Fox, F-Zero, etc.
3) They have a game in development (Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem), that could be jeopardized if a new board decided to cancel it, Nintendo doesn't need any more lack of software.
4) Since they are already developing Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem they wouldn't need to split the profits once released, allowing a return of the investment sooner than if it was any other studio.
5) It would allow for more dominance in their home market.
6) Believe it or not Nintendo does respect the development criteria of their bought studios, people often cite Xenogears as a bad example of "Nintendo watering down a franchise" when in reality Xenogears had nothing to do with Xenoblade, it was Tetsuya's decision to name it like that to help get the game some recognition. Fatal Frame and Captain Rainbow are actually good examples of Nintendo not messing up with other franchises.
7) It would protect them from poopydoodoo companies like Microsoft and EA.

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banacheck

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faint: The highest selling game they have released to date (Demon Souls PS3)has been out for almost four years and hasn't cracked 2 million.

After making an operating loss of just over $1.1 million in fiscal year 2009, Atlus USA has bouced right back in FY2010 with a profit of $5.39 million, mostly due to From Software's fiendishly tricky and unforgiving RPG,

Atlus USA doesn't publish huge mainstream games. Instead, it publishes games with smaller audiences that might otherwise never make it out of Japan, so for it to post a $5 million profit is quite the accomplishment.

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mii-gamer

88. Posted:

Can't see this happening. If anything they would buy the IP's and not the entire company

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banacheck

89. Posted:

In terms of not the handheld market, Atlus's majority fanbase exists on Sony consoles. They rely on their core fanbase for their games since they're so niche. Going nintendo only would definitely hurt them.

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GoombaSlayer

90. Posted:

Not a huge fan of Atlus.. Even though i have heard a lot of claim regarding Persona 4.

I do however like it when "first-party" acquire studios to build their line-up and identity. Im sure Atlus is a worthy buy, if so would happen, but they also somewhat seems to be about the same thing that Intelligent Systems and Monolith Soft already represent as Nintendo studios. I would rather see them acquire some more blockbuster studios or maybe indie devs that can make some creative GamePad experiences.

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moomoo

91. Posted:

8BitSamurai wrote:

moomoo wrote:

Considering that Atlus has stuff in development on competitor systems (Disgaea 4 on Vita comes to mind) I don't know if they'd be willing to go with Nintendo.

Disgaea 4 is actually a Nippon Ichi Software game, and is on the PS3. I think you're thinking Persona 4: Golden. :) Just a friendly heads up.

Oh yeah, that's right. Sorry, it's just that Atlus has published some of its games. Also, Disgaea 4 is coming to the PS Vita.
Source: http://www.siliconera.com/2013/07/13/disgaea-4-return-headed-...

Actually, now that you mention Nippon Ichi Software, I think they'd be a good fit for Atlus. They have a similar philosophy when it comes to the way they release games (bonuses like CDs and booklets) and they'd compliment each other well. Heck, NIS Europe even published some of their games. The only concern I'd have is that they wouldn't have the cash to buy them. I remember reading a story a bit more than a year back that said they weren't doing too well, and I don't know if things have improved that much for them.

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SCAR392

92. Posted:

banacheck wrote:

In terms of not the handheld market, Atlus's majority fanbase exists on Sony consoles. They rely on their core fanbase for their games since they're so niche. Going nintendo only would definitely hurt them.

I understand they have a fanbase on PS systems, but they have arguably more fans on DS. I had like 3 of their games last generation. 2 being on DS, and one on Wii.
I wasn't the only one either. Tons of people knew who Atlus were. Their games for DS were hard as hell to find in my area for a while.

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93. Posted:

SCAR392 wrote:

I understand they have a fanbase on PS systems, but they have arguably more fans on DS. I had like 3 of their games last generation. 2 being on DS, and one on Wii.

So n = 1

Can't argue with that sample size

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94. Posted:

AlexSays wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

I understand they have a fanbase on PS systems, but they have arguably more fans on DS. I had like 3 of their games last generation. 2 being on DS, and one on Wii.

So n = 1

Can't argue with that sample size

What?
I'm just saying, I had 3 of their games and tons of other people did too. Everyone with a Wii or DS basically had at least one of their games.
Persona 4 Golden hasn't even sold 1 million copies on PS Vita, and that's considered popular.

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I was primarily just screwing with you

Though to say everyone with a DS or Wii had an Atlus game is ridiculously untrue. Add up the total Atlus games sold, add up the number of systems sold. They're not even close.

Also, people can claim vgchartz is inaccurate (and a lot of times it is) but they have nearly all of the best selling Atlus games on PS platforms.

Unless there are links out there saying otherwise, I have no reason to believe their games sell best on Nintendo platforms, therefore I can't believe they have more fans on Nintendo platforms either.

To complete my fragmented post, the Wii and DS are estimated to have sold over 250 million.

Its hard enough finding a combination Atlus games reaching 2 million. I'm hoping I misinterpreted what you said somehow, because Atlus hasn't sold 250 million games total in their history, much less anything close to that on the Wii and DS.

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SCAR392

96. Posted:

Ya, I don't actually know how many games they've sold.
List of Atlus games:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Atlus_games

They release alot of games that are pretty "niche" or overlooked. I recall Contact for DS being pretty hyped, but it didn't live up to many expectations.
Anyway, if Nintendo does buy Atlus, they'll probably try to help them focus more on a few really good titles, instead of a bunch of hit and miss games.
I also figure that Nintendo probably thinks they would be a good asset since they've been on multiple platforms for many years.

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97. Posted:

moomoo wrote:

Also, Disgaea 4 is coming to the PS Vita.
Source: http://www.siliconera.com/2013/07/13/disgaea-4-return-headed-...

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98. Posted:

Well i can think of a much worse scenario anyway....Microsoft. That would screw over BOTH Sony and Nintendo console/handheld owners :D

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shingi_70

99. Posted:

On the actual topic of Nintendo buying Atlus I wouldn't mind it at all. My main problem with nintendo is I believe their output could be far more diverse than just checking off the usual suspects.

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100. Posted:

Of course I would love for it to happen as long as Atlus can stay Atlus. I don't want Nintendo coming in and saying well if you do this you can sell more games. I love their games and Nintendo can get the names out there better then Atlus could ever dream to!

Still a lot of Atlus fan would make the Nintendo jump if had to but I can also see them saying screw it I'm not buying Nintendo just for these games thinking they will screw them up!

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